When will URM not be UR?

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Not a super serious question, just curious.

By your guestimate...
When will mexicans not be seen as under represented? When will blacks not be seen as under represented?

Edit: Because so many people keep liking the first guys comment: I said Mexican because Hispanics in general aren't URMs. Also, I am Mexican. Can we stop being petty now?
 
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Considering how quickly the Mexican-American population is growing, it may a century or more before physician representation catches up, if it ever will. If medicine becomes much less financially attractive in the future, the representation equalization process will accelerate.
 
ZPakEffect said:
You show your ignorance with this statement. Only Mexican-Americans and Puerto Ricans are considered URM among all Hispanic groups.
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I think you missed the point of his post...
 
ZPakEffect said:
Considering how quickly the Mexican-American population is growing, it may a century or more before physician representation catches up, if it ever will. If medicine becomes much less financially attractive in the future, the representation equalization process will accelerate.
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Thanks for the definitive answer, I never would have thought it would take that long.
 
If I recall, in my sociology class, the prof quoted studies that concluded that if everything were perfectly fair starting now, it would still take disadvantaged populations about 60 years to catch up due to multi-generational advantages from current imbalances.

That was a while ago, and things are still (IMO) not perfectly fair, so no time soon.
 
DokterMom said:
If I recall, in my sociology class, the prof quoted studies that concluded that if everything were perfectly fair starting now, it would still take disadvantaged populations about 60 years to catch up due to multi-generational advantages from current imbalances.

That was a while ago, and things are still (IMO) not perfectly fair, so no time soon.
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Yeah that makes sense.
 
NotASerialKiller said:
As soon as Trump fixes everything
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There will be no problems with representation when all of us have died in nuclear hellfire.
 
DokterMom said:
If I recall, in my sociology class, the prof quoted studies that concluded that if everything were perfectly fair starting now, it would still take disadvantaged populations about 60 years to catch up due to multi-generational advantages from current imbalances.

That was a while ago, and things are still (IMO) not perfectly fair, so no time soon.
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Right. And I doubt the political stances taken by the medical establishment will remain static steady during that whole span of time (nearly a century for FFS!) -- it only took Donald Trump a year to radically shift the political median in this country. It's depressing to think about, but I anticipate the URM boost eventually slipping out of ubiquity as the decades pass and underrepresentation stubbornly persists.
 
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LizzyM said:
When the wages of physicians drop and they become employees of vast bureaucratic businesses and no one wants the job for the money and status it carries because it will carry very little of either.
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When do you think this will happen?
 
There are fewer African American med students now than in the 1070s. So I am guessing that it will take a while.
 
The disparity in access to education as well as the stereotype threats that exist in our country isn't going away; it seems to be growing with all the negative rhetoric, especially with powerful political figures like Trump. It's going to be a long time.
 
WindChaser said:
The disparity in access to education as well as the stereotype threats that exist in our country isn't going away; it seems to be growing with all the negative rhetoric, especially with powerful political figures like Trump. It's going to be a long time.
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Wow, do you really think racial divide could be growing? I like to think things are getting better and more minorities are getting an education but I guess I can see what you're saying since I myself fall into that undereducated, underrepresented cycle. It has eff'd me over bad.
 
WindChaser said:
The disparity in access to education as well as the stereotype threats that exist in our country isn't going away; it seems to be growing with all the negative rhetoric, especially with powerful political figures like Trump. It's going to be a long time.
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Rhetoric doesn't grow inequality. Inequality grows inequality, and inequality is growing.

Only way: dismantle capitalism

/sneaks out of thread
 
To answer the question literally... URM will not be UR when the racial makeup of the physician population is comparable to the racial makeup of the country. Blacks and Hispanics make up around 4% and 5% of practicing physicians respectively, yet they make up 15% and 17% of the population of the country (more in some areas).
 
When they, broadly speaking, have equal opportunity
 
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