Which kids ask all the annoying questions in class? (M1)

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Dirt said:
I will ask questions whenever I damn well please. And frankly, the thought that there might be some of you people burning up inside when i'm asking them makes it that much sweeter.
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Way to be a team player.🙄

You can boast autonomy all you want, but if your questions are dumb as h***, you're not proving the point you think you are.
 
Dirt said:
I will ask questions whenever I damn well please. And frankly, the thought that there might be some of you people burning up inside when i'm asking them makes it that much sweeter.
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dont worry, karma will come for you
 
greatnt249 said:
Way to be a team player.🙄

You can boast autonomy all you want, but if your questions are dumb as h***, you're not proving the point you think you are.
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One kid in lecture today tried to prove a point about CT radiation. The lecturer, a surgeon that relies on CT readily said to him, "I think the risks of CT radiation are outweighed by the risk of death in a cervical fracture." The kid was shutdown immediately... but I think he'll continue to ask questions. 🙁
 
i never ask questions in class; i only talk to the profs after

i'm falling asleep more than half the time anyways so it's better/more efficient for me to just ask for exactly what i need to know rather than wait for him to hopefully explain this diagram/concept that doesn't make sense.
 
Bacchus said:
One kid in lecture today tried to prove a point about CT radiation. The lecturer, a surgeon that relies on CT readily said to him, "I think the risks of CT radiation are outweighed by the risk of death in a cervical fracture." The kid was shutdown immediately... but I think he'll continue to ask questions. 🙁
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:laugh: Even I would have rolled my eyes at that one.

I really don't get some students. As a first year who's only studied anatomy so far, I really don't feel that I would be in any position to challenge existing treatment modalities, especially when immediate concerns (cervical fracture impinging on spinal cord) need to be diagnosed using imaging techniques that pose minimal long-term risks.

What did he expect...that everyone should get a really expensive MRI instead?
 
This is because a "little bit of knowledge" is a dangerous thing. People who know just a small facet of something are dumb enough to not get the big picture but know enough to get cocky.

Here is a very interesting read. The less a person is competent as something, the more he is likely to inflate his assessment of himself. Why? Its because to accurately assess yourself in a skill, you have to know the nuances of that skill from which to assess yourself from!

Its called the Dunning–Kruger Effect.

http://www.apa.org/journals/features/psp7761121.pdf
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect

You will notice this a lot on forums. This is why, every time I go into any argument, I always do my background work, ALWAYS. There is nothing worse than sounding stupid on the internet.
 
greatnt249 said:
Wow, just wow. Do professors actually cater to this or do they direct the tangent back on topic?
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This lady is at it again, she managed to turn a discussion about multi-drug resistance to one about administering multiple vaccinations to infants. Again, off topic and non pragmatic. We wasted 3 minutes on one slide discussing the vaccination window in new borns.
 
ChemEngSoonMD said:
This is because a "little bit of knowledge" is a dangerous thing. People who know just a small facet of something are dumb enough to not get the big picture but know enough to get cocky.

Here is a very interesting read. The less a person is competent as something, the more he is likely to inflate his assessment of himself. Why? Its because to accurately assess yourself in a skill, you have to know the nuances of that skill from which to assess yourself from!

Its called the Dunning–Kruger Effect.

http://www.apa.org/journals/features/psp7761121.pdf
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect

You will notice this a lot on forums. This is why, every time I go into any argument, I always do my background work, ALWAYS. There is nothing worse than sounding stupid on the internet.
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Black Surgeon said:
This lady is at it again, she managed to turn a discussion about multi-drug resistance to one about administering multiple vaccinations to infants. Again, off topic and non pragmatic. We wasted 3 minutes on one slide discussing the vaccination window in new borns.
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Someone should seriously just interject and ask "what the hell does one have to do with the other"?🙄
 
greatnt249 said:
Someone should seriously just interject and ask "what the hell does one have to do with the other"?🙄
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I posted that previous comment while in class as the conversation about vaccinations was taking place. I made it a point to make her acquaintance today, it turns out she is a non-traditional student with little toddlers at home. This makes a lot more sense; she's a young loving mother with her children on her mind, thus explaining why her interjections have both been centered on child issues. I can't be upset at that, she's back on my good side. 😀
 
You're kind of a good example of the Dunning Kruger Effect.
ChemEngSoonMD said:
This is because a "little bit of knowledge" is a dangerous thing. People who know just a small facet of something are dumb enough to not get the big picture but know enough to get cocky.

Here is a very interesting read. The less a person is competent as something, the more he is likely to inflate his assessment of himself. Why? Its because to accurately assess yourself in a skill, you have to know the nuances of that skill from which to assess yourself from!

Its called the Dunning–Kruger Effect.

http://www.apa.org/journals/features/psp7761121.pdf
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect

You will notice this a lot on forums. This is why, every time I go into any argument, I always do my background work, ALWAYS. There is nothing worse than sounding stupid on the internet.
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ChemEngSoonMD said:
This is because a "little bit of knowledge" is a dangerous thing. People who know just a small facet of something are dumb enough to not get the big picture but know enough to get cocky.

Here is a very interesting read. The less a person is competent as something, the more he is likely to inflate his assessment of himself. Why? Its because to accurately assess yourself in a skill, you have to know the nuances of that skill from which to assess yourself from!

Its called the Dunning–Kruger Effect.

http://www.apa.org/journals/features/psp7761121.pdf
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect

You will notice this a lot on forums. This is why, every time I go into any argument, I always do my background work, ALWAYS. There is nothing worse than sounding stupid on the internet.
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AHAHAHAH.....wow

you sound so churlish. so stupid. You know who you are? You are that guy. the douche guy who no one wants to talk to. the guy who everyone makes fun of after class.

Maybe its your stupidity. maybe its your small penis. maybe its your lack of a social life. I dont know. Whatever it is...keep it up.

you entertain all of us. its a great opportunty when I take a break from studying to laugh at you. HAHA. Good job.
 
OH man....I just realized what this thread was asking.

Yea...who asks all the dumb questions? This guy CHEMENGSOONMD. This douche. the guy we make fun of. the guy who annoys us. the guy who thinks he's cool because he's so socially out of touch he thinks he's right all the time. that guy. Yep. That guy.

:troll:
 
maldabrroc777 said:
Yah, I'm a lib arts major, and I've definitely been the one explaining concepts to the science kids.
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Smart liberal arts student may understand better than a dumb science student. But what if you stack a smart liberal arts student vs a smart science/engineer student?
 
ZeusonRoids said:
Easily the "Let-me-show-you-how-smart-i-am" kid. We have two kids in our class like this...and I swear to god they have probably asked or answered 90% of the questions in class.

Whats worse is they raise their hand like this
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or like this
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Which annoys the hell out of me...and then they talk with this horrible little whiny "meehhh well let me ask a question that shows I have read literally one sentence ahead of where you are lecturing so I can hear you say that I had a very insightful question meehhh"

We make fun of this kid behind his back. I think everybody hates him
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Serious "LOLLLLLL" in this [quoted] post!
:laugh: 👍
 
The most annoying girl in my class as far as asking terrible questions goes is an engineer.
 
also, it is not so much what background a person has. it is more about what that person's attitude/personality is. in my class, we got a person sitting right up front who is incapable of making conversation that doesn't revolve around his desire to learn as much as possible and match into the residency of his dreams.

i had to walk away while hearing him speak because i thought i would vomit
 
We had someone yesterday ask three questions after the last slide was done...they couldn't wait two seconds and ask while we were leaving...and of course they were of no use to the rest of the class
 
So this was a real question during our introductory histology/physiology which was pretty much entirely over epithelium. "So, are all the different types of epithelium specific to certain parts of the body, or can they just be anywhere at random?" I mean, we had just had an entire lecture on what types of tissue went where, and why. It was pretty funny though, and the guy who asked was a good sport about it after he realized that it was kind of a dumb question.
 
KeyzerSoze said:
Speaking of annoying, when do people stop calling their peers "kids"?
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One of my classmates is more than a decade older than I am. We're close friends and he calls me "kid". I call him "old man". It's a good relationship.

Also, +1 to whoever mentioned the raising of the hand with the index finger extended. However, I think raising your hands with the "rocker horns" would be rad as hell.

Better than insulting the people who ask stupid questions and assuming that I'm going to be the kid who doesn't ask stupid questions, I decided to be proactive. I used the little five minute breaks between lecture sections to quickly ask the prof. my question. They usually are happy to asnwer (as long as you limit the questions to subject material and avoid asking constantly). Additionally, I found out that if I asked a constructive question, the lecturer would actually re-iterate the question for the whole class at the beginning of the next lecture. Sometimes it's better to ask (most people don't like speaking up) to have an important point clarified. I've had a couple people thank me for asking questions when they didn't feel confident enough to.
 
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greatnt249 said:
Way to be a team player.🙄

You can boast autonomy all you want, but if your questions are dumb as h***, you're not proving the point you think you are.
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I don't ask questions to prove a point, I ask questions when a lecturer does not make sense/needs to clarify a point. I don't really know how autonomy comes into play but I do consider myself an independent thinking individual.

Pinkertinkle said:
dont worry, karma will come for you
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It likely will. One day the knowledge garnered from asking a question in class will help me get a test question right. Whereas most of you will be cursing your professor for not telling you everything you needed to know.
 
Dirt said:
I don't ask questions to prove a point, I ask questions when a lecturer does not make sense/needs to clarify a point. I don't really know how autonomy comes into play but I do consider myself an independent thinking individual.



It likely will. One day the knowledge garnered from asking a question in class will help me get a test question right. Whereas most of you will be cursing your professor for not telling you everything you needed to know.
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Most of us do not need to ask questions in class and are quite fine looking the information up ourselves and not wasting class time to feed our ego.
 
Dirt said:
It likely will. One day the knowledge garnered from asking a question in class will help me get a test question right. Whereas most of you will be cursing your professor for not telling you everything you needed to know.
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O trust me, its not the ones asking the most questions who do the best on the exams.
 
Dirt said:
I don't ask questions to prove a point, I ask questions when a lecturer does not make sense/needs to clarify a point. I don't really know how autonomy comes into play but I do consider myself an independent thinking individual.
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The point you need clarified is not necessarily a point everyone needs to have clarified for them, especially if it was in the reading you were supposed to do for that day. This neglects the "subtle" notion in your previous post that you derive satisfaction from asking questions out of spite of your fellow classmates when you could easily ask them after lecture.


Dirt said:
It likely will. One day the knowledge garnered from asking a question in class will help me get a test question right. Whereas most of you will be cursing your professor for not telling you everything you needed to know.
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No, I get everything I need to know by reading the information presented to me in the handout notes and by participating in lab. Just because you need your info spoon-fed to you by a professor doesn't mean the rest of us do.
 
If I ever have a question I tend to use it as an opportunity to discover it and read up on my own. I don't really learn by simply being told the answer.

In the rare circumstance I can't figure it out, I will email or talk to the prof. after class and get it clarified.

I can't stand questions, but I usually want to get the lecture done with and haul out of there anyway.
 
I'm more annoyed when a professor asks a question for which the answer is displayed, in 72-point bolded font, on the slide behind him/her. Every other slide.

Everyone knows the answer. It's right there. But no one wants to be the idiot who puts up their hand and answers the question that everyone knows the answer to. No one wants to seem that desperate for validation. So the entire lecture moves forward like an awkward teenager learning to drive stick, and the professor leaves class thinking that we're the idiots.
 
WellWornLad said:
I'm more annoyed when a professor asks a question for which the answer is displayed, in 72-point bolded font, on the slide behind him/her. Every other slide.

Everyone knows the answer. It's right there. But no one wants to be the idiot who puts up their hand and answers the question that everyone knows the answer to. No one wants to seem that desperate for validation. So the entire lecture moves forward like an awkward teenager learning to drive stick, and the professor leaves class thinking that we're the idiots.
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Now I'll answer those questions if for no other reason than to move the class forward. I hate those moments and just want to get the question answered and move on.
 
Siggy said:
Now I'll answer those questions if for no other reason than to move the class forward. I hate those moments and just want to get the question answered and move on.
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I can't stand a class like that either. I will often just go ahead and answer the question so the professor doesn't stand up there looking at the class with a face like you just called him an ***hole or something. The next worst thing is when one of the frequent question askers poses a question to the prof that pisses them off so they ask the rest of the class if anyone can answer the asinine question.
 
chiz2kul said:
Liberal arts majors who really have no clue about whats going on...or the let-me-show-you-how-smart-i-am pre-med gunner kid?

Still trying to figure that out..
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As far as the liberal arts comment...
There's a time and a place for questions. Like anything, they can be overdone. If interactive learning or questions bother you, rounds are going to be rough. I promise you there will be a time when you don't have all the answers (and one of your colleagues does). You may be glad that somebody else had the guts to ask.
 
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greatnt249 said:
The point you need clarified is not necessarily a point everyone needs to have clarified for them, especially if it was in the reading you were supposed to do for that day. This neglects the "subtle" notion in your previous post that you derive satisfaction from asking questions out of spite of your fellow classmates when you could easily ask them after lecture.




No, I get everything I need to know by reading the information presented to me in the handout notes and by participating in lab. Just because you need your info spoon-fed to you by a professor doesn't mean the rest of us do.
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even though you say all this...you sound like someone who asks annoying questions. In fact, you sound like the arrogant jerk no one in med school likes. I guess you get to get off on SDN without as much as a retort.
 
surag said:
even though you say all this...you sound like someone who asks annoying questions. In fact, you sound like the arrogant jerk no one in med school likes. I guess you get to get off on SDN without as much as a retort.
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I like him. Your argument is invalid.
 
surag said:
even though you say all this...you sound like someone who asks annoying questions. In fact, you sound like the arrogant jerk no one in med school likes. I guess you get to get off on SDN without as much as a retort.
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Actually, I don't ask any questions unless I really don't understand something, and even then I wait until after lecture to do so. You sound exactly like the know-it-all premed who passes judgment on subjects he/she knows nothing about, but can hide behind SDN because, unless you're dumb enough to pull the same crap at a medical school interview (should you get one), no one will be able to call you on it.

See what I did there?
 
anesthesiadoc said:
As far as the liberal arts comment...
There's a time and a place for questions. Like anything, they can be overdone. If interactive learning or questions bother you, rounds are going to be rough. I promise you there will be a time when you don't have all the answers (and one of your colleagues does). You may be glad that somebody else had the guts to ask.
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You missed the point of my post. I have no issues asking questions or with questions being asked. But like you said, there is a time and place for that. Everything just has to be done sensibly and in moderation.
 
greatnt249 said:
Actually, I don't ask any questions unless I really don't understand something, and even then I wait until after lecture to do so. You sound exactly like the know-it-all premed who passes judgment on subjects he/she knows nothing about, but can hide behind SDN because, unless you're dumb enough to pull the same crap at a medical school interview (should you get one), no one will be able to call you on it.

See what I did there?
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OHhhh mann...I am sooo amazed at your brilliance. forgive me master of SDN for I have sinned. For indeed I must be that know it all premeder.

Actually you are right about something... i know nothing about this subject other than your a**hole attitude. I'm sure it will carry you on real far in medicine...oh wait, how did YOU get an interview?

But, please, don't answer. seriously, because I'm sure you brilliantly managed to hide your own insolence from the interviewer. Thats all that matters.
 
surag said:
OHhhh mann...I am sooo amazed at your brilliance. forgive me master of SDN for I have sinned. For indeed I must be that know it all premeder.

Actually you are right about something... i know nothing about this subject other than your a**hole attitude. I'm sure it will carry you on real far in medicine...oh wait, how did YOU get an interview?

But, please, don't answer. seriously, because I'm sure you brilliantly managed to hide your own insolence from the interviewer. Thats all that matters.
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It would do you well to quit projecting onto others. Other than that, your "points," "rebuttals," or whatever you want to call them aren't worth responding to, as you're the one who came out guns blazing on unfounded assumptions.
 
greatnt249 said:
It would do you well to quit projecting onto others. Other than that, your "points," "rebuttals," or whatever you want to call them aren't worth responding to, as you're the one who came out guns blazing on unfounded assumptions.
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lol projecting? how are you using that, as a psychiatry term? because it makes no sense here. maybe you should relearn your medical terminology. someone projects when they establish their own attitudes or emotions on to someone else. I've done none of that.

none of what I said was 'unfounded'. perhaps 'opinionated?' but even thats a stretch seeing as you're the one who's come out as a real JERK to everone on this thread. in fact most of what you said wasn't particularly nice early on, condemning people for asking questions and making it seem as if somehow people should refrain entirely from asking until the end of class. Not only did you say that but you said it in a totally **** way. really dude...no assumptions here pal, just observations.
 
surag said:
someone projects when they establish their own attitudes or emotions on to someone else. I've done none of that.
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Riiight...like you haven't blown into this thread being the complete tool that you accuse me of being...🙄

surag said:
none of what I said was 'unfounded'.
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You accused me of being the medical student that nobody likes, the student who asks all the questions, and somehow the exception to the rule as to the type of student they accept into medical school. Given that I have plenty of friends in school, that I never ask questions during lecture when a) they aren't relevant to the material being discussed, and b) it can easily wait until after lecture, and that I'm actually in medical school with intentions you really have no grounds for challenging, I would say your opinions are the epitome of "unfounded."

surag said:
perhaps 'opinionated?' but even thats a stretch seeing as you're the one who's come out as a real JERK to everone on this thread. in fact most of what you said wasn't particularly nice early on, condemning people for asking questions and making it seem as if somehow people should refrain entirely from asking until the end of class. Not only did you say that but you said it in a totally **** way. really dude...no assumptions here pal, just observations.
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1. I was hardly the only one with these opinions.
2. They should refrain from asking irrelevant questions until the end of class. When you're sharing the lecture hall with 100+ medical students, derailing the discussion at hand gets really annoying. You wouldn't know that, seeing as how none of what you're doing right now compares to what we do.
3. You should refrain from the swearing and ad hominem statements if you want people to take you seriously.
4. I'm not your pal.
 
sorry the thread got hijacked. not replying to you anymore.

But I cant stand it when people use ad hominem like its a cool word. ad hominem applies when I attack one's character in lieu of their argument. I attack your character because that is essentially the problem here. No other argument.
 
surag said:
sorry the thread got hijacked. not replying to you anymore.

But I cant stand it when people use ad hominem like its a cool word. ad hominem applies when I attack one's character in lieu of their argument. I attack your character because that is essentially the problem here. No other argument.
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1. You seem to be the only one who has a problem with my "character" (whatever that is); that should say something.
2. It's just plain pathetic that your idea of knocking my "character" down a peg is arguing that my posts on SDN are a mere reaction formation to the topic of the thread.
3. It's even more pathetic to hijack a thread, single out, and "chastise" someone for actually responding and contributing to the topic at hand when said responses are no different than those anyone else is giving.
4. I can't stand when people get into arguments when they're clearly in way over their heads just because they feel the need to insist on carrying out whatever vendetta it is that they have.🙄

Back on topic; our class is pretty tame when it comes to irrelevant or annoying questions, as the profs make it clear what it is we have to read/study for each day in lecture. If anyone has any questions, they seem to save it for lab.
 
too much testosterone flowing in here...chill out everyone
 
Testosterone overload + aromatase = gynecomastia 👎
 
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