which school has the best residency placement?

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ADeadLois said:
Define "Best Residency Placement"
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Stony Brook places a higher number of NY state residents into its incoming class each year. Clearly that's what the OP wants to know.

Seriously though, I have nothing worthwhile to add to this thread. Sorry.
 
no by "residency placement" i mean after medical school, which students end up in the better residency programs out of these schools? im basically trying to see which school is better...

sorry if I was unclear
 
fyfanatic said:
no by "residency placement" i mean after medical school, which students end up in the better residency programs out of these schools? im basically trying to see which school is better...

sorry if I was unclear
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Nah, you weren't unclear, I was just being a sarcastic jerk. I apologize, I get bored and do that sometimes. Nothing personal.
 
The most important thing for residency placement is individual effort and achievement. Yes, having a famous/infamous school helps/hurts at the extremes (Going to Harvard Med IS going to impress some people on the residency application trail, and going to a questionable med school IS going to make some program directors give you a closer eye). But if schools are similar in esteem you're not going to see any advantage over going to one versus the other. It'll be up to you to kick ass on boards, wow on clinical rotations, and get those LORs.
 
fyfanatic said:
no by "residency placement" i mean after medical school, which students end up in the better residency programs out of these schools? im basically trying to see which school is better...

sorry if I was unclear
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Have you gotten into any of them yet?
 
yea i got accepted into these three schools and now im trying to decide which one i should go to....
 
Whichever one you like the best. They don't hand out derm residencies at orientation anywhere. You can get pretty much any residency from any school. It's all about you, not the school.
 
PeepshowJohnny said:
The most important thing for residency placement is individual effort and achievement. Yes, having a famous/infamous school helps/hurts at the extremes (Going to Harvard Med IS going to impress some people on the residency application trail, and going to a questionable med school IS going to make some program directors give you a closer eye). But if schools are similar in esteem you're not going to see any advantage over going to one versus the other. It'll be up to you to kick ass on boards, wow on clinical rotations, and get those LORs.
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ok so ur saying that these three schools are on the same level and so it doesn't really matter....but what about Pittsburgh or NYU...im asking because i had interviews at these two schools as well and am waiting for their reply...i know that these two schools are considered better than the suny schools, but since you say that its up to individual achievement...should i just stick with the cheaper suny schools?? (im a NY resident)
 
fyfanatic said:
ok so ur saying that these three schools are on the same level and so it doesn't really matter....but what about Pittsburgh or NYU...im asking because i had interviews at these two schools as well and am waiting for their reply...i know that these two schools are considered better than the suny schools, but since you say that its up to individual achievement...should i just stick with the cheaper suny schools?? (im a NY resident)
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In my opinion, stony brook is a decent school, upstate is ~eeh.
and downstate is in between stony brook and upstate.

If I were you, tuition would be a factor in where I go. So, yes, I would choose stony brook or downstate.
 
Saregamapadanis said:
In my opinion, stony brook is a decent school, upstate is ~eeh.
and downstate is in between stony brook and upstate.

If I were you, tuition would be a factor in where I go. So, yes, I would choose stony brook or downstate.
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why do you say that stony brook is better? is it because of the professors? the facilities?
 
I suggest you check each school's residency match list. This will have all the information you seem to be looking for. Between the three schools you've mentioned though, they are all roughly on the same playing field but I would agree with the others here that Stony Brook seems to be the favorite. However, if I were you, since the schools are all basically on the same level - I would decide where I'd prefer to go to school: upstate New York, Long Island, or the very urban Brooklyn. If you have to pick only from those three, let location play a big part of your decision.

Now if you're thinking about NYU and Pittsburgh, its obvious these schools are harder to get into and are more highly ranked by US News. They have stellar match lists that you should personally check out, but keep in mind that they cost a lot more than the SUNY schools. SUNY medical schools are great if you live in NYS because of the lower tuition.

Good luck.
 
fyfanatic said:
why do you say that stony brook is better? is it because of the professors? the facilities?
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This is a very subjective response, sorry... like the above poster has mentioned it, please see the residency match lists... I haven't been accepted to any of these yet but
Upstate was depressing the last time I have seen it.
Downstate - it is in brooklyn, I heard any hospital in the new york city area is big on giving alot of scut work to its med students.
Stony Brook- Long Island suburbs, there isn't much to do outside of school, but from what I have seen, the hospital and the facilities are very good.
 
scrubswannabe said:
I suggest you check each school's residency match list. This will have all the information you seem to be looking for. Between the three schools you've mentioned though, they are all roughly on the same playing field but I would agree with the others here that Stony Brook seems to be the favorite. However, if I were you, since the schools are all basically on the same level - I would decide where I'd prefer to go to school: upstate New York, Long Island, or the very urban Brooklyn. If you have to pick only from those three, let location play a big part of your decision.

Now if you're thinking about NYU and Pittsburgh, its obvious these schools are harder to get into and are more highly ranked by US News. They have stellar match lists that you should personally check out, but keep in mind that they cost a lot more than the SUNY schools. SUNY medical schools are great if you live in NYS because of the lower tuition.

Good luck.
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ok so if i get accepted into pitt or nyu, is it worth the money to go to these schools if I have cheaper options available?
sorry if im being annoying, its just that everyone tells me that the name of the school is more important than the cost, but im not so sure about that.
 
I wish I could give you an answer to that question. It's a huge debate whether to go with the name or the price. Most people will tell you that, oh you're going to be a doctor anyway, don't worry about loans - you'll be able to pay them off. Truthfully, I don't know because if you've seen that popular article circulating around this forum about young doctors in debt it seems that tuition and medical school costs have been steadily rising and salaries for doctors have been steadily declining over the past ten or more years. This means that right now we are at a point where tuition is highest and the salary to pay off these loans is the lowest in recent history. If universal health care comes in to play in the near future, which I'm pretty sure will happen - it's only right, then expect salaries to decrease further. I know almost no one goes into medicine solely for the money but being able to pay these loans off makes it such an important topic.

I digressed a little but it's basically this: State school versus great private school. Most of these private schools are great because they feed into great hospitals for residency, for example its not hard for Harvard grads to match into MGH and not hard for Cornell grads to match into NYP. However, coming from Stonybook it would be harder to match into one of those institutions - it would be easier to match into Stony Brook. So the medical school you go to does affect where you will go to for residency. However, let's say you go to Stony Brook or Downstate and you do well there - you can definitely match into NYP, you have a good shot if you do well there. However, if you go to Cornell - even if you're just an average student, you can match into NYP. In the end you're paying a lot more for Cornell though than you are for the SUNY. I know I haven't given you an answer but that's a lot of information and it's up to you to judge based on it.

I'd go the SUNY route, try to do the best I absolutely could and work hard to be able to match into great programs. If I can stand out at the SUNY and excel there, and save money in the process, then that's obviously the much better option. I do not want to be bogged down with loans as a doctor. Does this mean that I wouldn't go to Harvard....er I don't know...
 
scrubswannabe said:
I wish I could give you an answer to that question. It's a huge debate whether to go with the name or the price. Most people will tell you that, oh you're going to be a doctor anyway, don't worry about loans - you'll be able to pay them off. Truthfully, I don't know because if you've seen that popular article circulating around this forum about young doctors in debt it seems that tuition and medical school costs have been steadily rising and salaries for doctors have been steadily declining over the past ten or more years. This means that right now we are at a point where tuition is highest and the salary to pay off these loans is the lowest in recent history. If universal health care comes in to play in the near future, which I'm pretty sure will happen - it's only right, then expect salaries to decrease further. I know almost no one goes into medicine solely for the money but being able to pay these loans off makes it such an important topic.

I digressed a little but it's basically this: State school versus great private school. Most of these private schools are great because they feed into great hospitals for residency, for example its not hard for Harvard grads to match into MGH and not hard for Cornell grads to match into NYP. However, coming from Stonybook it would be harder to match into one of those institutions - it would be easier to match into Stony Brook. So the medical school you go to does affect where you will go to for residency. However, let's say you go to Stony Brook or Downstate and you do well there - you can definitely match into NYP, you have a good shot if you do well there. However, if you go to Cornell - even if you're just an average student, you can match into NYP. In the end you're paying a lot more for Cornell though than you are for the SUNY. I know I haven't given you an answer but that's a lot of information and it's up to you to judge based on it.

I'd go the SUNY route, try to do the best I absolutely could and work hard to be able to match into great programs. If I can stand out at the SUNY and excel there, and save money in the process, then that's obviously the much better option. I do not want to be bogged down with loans as a doctor. Does this mean that I wouldn't go to Harvard....er I don't know...
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this helps a lot, thanks.
 
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