Which schools are PBL?

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those are the only two that I am aware of, or that I applied to.
 
Da Bomb said:
Yeah kinda like the Titanic. I believe Harvard was the first and then a guy from over there took a position at USC and then started PBL.
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that would be correct...USC is the newest ship to take it up, not the first.
 
PBL = Problem Based Learning, or at least that's what i'm guessing they are using the abbreviation for.
 
A UCLA dental school professor told me that PBL learning at USC is a disaster, and that not only do they have 48% failure rate on the CA state boards but USC's specialty programs do not accept their own USC dental school grads...

Anyone know anything abou that?
 
Rook said:
A UCLA dental school professor told me that PBL learning at USC is a disaster, and that not only do they have 48% failure rate on the CA state boards but USC's specialty programs do not accept their own USC dental school grads...

Anyone know anything abou that?
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well, that might be something to ask the interviewer...
 
Rook said:
A UCLA dental school professor told me that PBL learning at USC is a disaster, and that not only do they have 48% failure rate on the CA state boards but USC's specialty programs do not accept their own USC dental school grads...

Anyone know anything abou that?
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Interesting since UCLA does a hybrid using some PBL.
 
USC has had a recent drop in their Boards passage rate in recent years because PBL is new and they haven't worked all the kinks out. Whether or not they ever will work it out is a question anyone can only guess at. PBL has and continues to work fine at some schools like Harvard, but every school that tries PBL does it a little differently using the method they think will work best.

PBL at USC, as far as I've heard (not a student there so I don't know) has students grouped together so you will have a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th year student all in one group. Problems are given to the students and they work together to figure out solutions. The idea is to make it similar to how the real world functions where a group of professionals works together to solve a problem, like a hygienist, general dentist, lab technitian, and a specialist working together.

The pros and cons all depend on what type of school experience you want. I suppose one major pro I hear about is that USC students have a lot more free time, but they are supposed to use that free time to study or work together on issues. A con is obviously the lower passage rates of the Boards. I'm sure someone at USC could expand on the pro and con aspects
 
I've read through the interview feedback for USC. Basically, in PBL, you pay the exorbitant tuition fees to learn everything on your own. It's group learning, but a lot of the times, there will be at least one black sheep who doesn't research what he's assigned, so the entire group won't learn about that particular area of the case unless they find information about it on their own. Anyway, maybe UCLA uses some PBL, but their entire curriculum isn't based on it. PBL isn't for me, but I'm sure there are people out there who will greatly benefit from it.
 
Rook said:
A UCLA dental school professor told me that PBL learning at USC is a disaster, and that not only do they have 48% failure rate on the CA state boards but USC's specialty programs do not accept their own USC dental school grads...

Anyone know anything abou that?
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I had heard that the 48% is for the first year that graduated doing all PBL but that Board 1 scores for the following years were way up and the curric. has improved?
 
PBL at USC allows for a very healthy profit margin. I still cant figure out how they justify charging so much and then saying "go teach yourself" its unbelievable.
 
It may not be the greatest learning style, but if you get accepted to one of teh aformentioned schools (indiana, USC, harvard) and they are your only acceptance, are you really going to turn it down b/c it's pbl? Fugghetaboutit

If you have the drive to get into dental school, i'm sure you have the drive to make it through a few years of pbl. NOw if you have your choice of schools, ask each respective school, and students that go there, what they think about the classes and learning style.
 
Yellow Snow said:
I had heard that the 48% is for the first year that graduated doing all PBL but that Board 1 scores for the following years were way up and the curric. has improved?
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This was just e-mailed to us from the Dean about the 2008 NBDE 1 Scores.

*At the time of the July 2006 National Board Part I written exam, there were 144 students enrolled in the Class of 2008.

*123 students took the examination. Ninety-nine (99%) of the 123 students passed the examination on first attempt. 1 student had a partial failure (this means that only the failed section must be repeated). THIS IS THE HIGHEST PASS RATE WE HAVE HAD FOR FIRST ATTEMPTS IN THE LAST 15 YEARS FOR THE JULY EXAMINATION.

*21 students have not yet taken the board.

*The Class of 2008's average score is 88.4. THIS IS THE HIGHEST AVERAGE SCORE WE HAVE HAD FOR FIRST ATTEMPTS IN THE LAST 15 YEARS FOR THE JULY EXAMINATION.
 
Sydney is mixed, part PBL / part didactic.
(Similar to UBC and Harvard's programs from what I've heard)
 
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