Which schools should I consider?

[Marteenzies]

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Hey guys,

I'm planning on applying this next cycle. I'm graduating from stanford with a bioengineering degree this year. I have a 2.7 oGPA and 3.1 sGPA. My DAT scores are 18/19/17 (I didn't study for it... probably could have gotten a 23+ had I spent 2 or 3 weeks studying). I've also shadowed about 35 hours so I have good idea of how a dental practice operates.

I'm thinking about applying to UPenn, Stony Brook, Harvard, and UCLA. Do you think I should add more schools? Don't really want to waste more money if it isn't necessary.

Thanks,
Marteenzies

 

[Daurang]

You have practically no chance at any school, let alone the elite schools you mentioned. I honestly suggest you don't waste any money and simply explore another career path.

 

[AwesomeTeeth]

Hey guys,

I'm planning on applying this next cycle. I'm graduating from stanford with a bioengineering degree this year. I have a 2.7 oGPA and 3.1 sGPA. My DAT scores are 18/19/17 (I didn't study for it... probably could have gotten a 23+ had I spent 2 or 3 weeks studying). I've also shadowed about 35 hours so I have good idea of how a dental practice operates.

I'm thinking about applying to UPenn, Stony Brook, Harvard, and UCLA. Do you think I should add more schools? Don't really want to waste more money if it isn't necessary.

Thanks,
Marteenzies

Go back and study 2-3 weeks to get that 23+. Walk the walk and prove it.

 

[Marteenzies]

Really? My DAT scores seem right at the avg and I didn't even study. I know my gpa is a little lower than avg... but not very many people have it as hard as I do with such a hard major. Plus... I really want to attend a top school? Is there any hope?

 

[Marteenzies]

Go back and study 2-3 weeks to get that 23+. Walk the walk and prove it.

If I went to a easy state school like UT, I probably wouldn't have this problem. I'm sure adcoms will take the Stanford factor into account. Not easy getting into such a hard school.

 

[horns1011]

(I didn't study for it... probably could have gotten a 23+ had I spent 2 or 3 weeks studying).

REALLY bro? 2-3 weeks huh....Wow. Get the deuce out of here.

 

[Marteenzies]

REALLY bro? 2-3 weeks huh....Wow. Get the deuce out of here.

What is it with all these arrogant Texans. Do they not teach you any courtesy at that community college? There sure are lots of condescending attitudes on here.

 

[bing12]

im relatively new to the concepts of internet slang...but i believe this guy is a:

TROLL.

Right?haha

 

[bigbrightsmile]

Unfortunately from my experience, undergraduate school does not really matter to adcoms. GPA does. Unless you score the proposed DAT scores you mentioned I would do a post bach and apply in a year. To be competitive at any othe the schools you wanted you need a 3.5 and top DAT scores.

 

[longhornpride]

You sure are an idiot for someone that got into stanford. Plain and simple, you need to get that gpa up and apply to a broader range of schools.

 

[bing12]

unless you have stroke of luck like Landry Field had, i think youll run into trouble in the cycle unless you improve ALL your stats...and attitude.haha

 

[Marteenzies]

You sure are an idiot for someone that got into stanford. Plain and simple, you need to get that gpa up and apply to a broader range of schools.

You go to BU. I'm not sure I would call anyone an idiot.

What about schools like Michigan, Maryland, San Antonio, etc? I just don't want to stoop down to the likes of NYU, Tufts, Temple.

I do have about 150 hours of volunteering... would that make up for the below average gpa?

 

[AwesomeTeeth]

You go to BU. I'm not sure I would call anyone an idiot.

What about schools like Michigan, Maryland, San Antonio, etc? I just don't want to stoop down to the likes of NYU, Tufts, Temple.

I do have about 150 hours of volunteering... would that make up for the below average gpa?

Yes that would more then make up for it. Apply to all the schools you want, I'm sure you'll get in somewhere. 👍

 

[bing12]

You go to BU. I'm not sure I would call anyone an idiot.

What about schools like Michigan, Maryland, San Antonio, etc? I just don't want to stoop down to the likes of NYU, Tufts, Temple.

I do have about 150 hours of volunteering... would that make up for the below average gpa?

I think you have a good shot at harvard, columbia, and penn. with over a 2.0 gpa and a 17AA or above, coupled with 35 hours! of shadowing, you will be more than competitive to these top programs. You might get a full ride to UCLA, so try that out also.

 

[lmaozedong1]

 

[DazzlingSmile87]

You go to BU. I'm not sure I would call anyone an idiot.

What about schools like Michigan, Maryland, San Antonio, etc? I just don't want to stoop down to the likes of NYU, Tufts, Temple.

I do have about 150 hours of volunteering... would that make up for the below average gpa?

👎
You are seemingly new to this forum, so tip of advice: I suggest you drop the attitude if you want to receive any help...

...and to answer your question: 150 hours of volunteering will absolutely NOT make up for a sub-par GPA and an average DAT score!

Do not demean others based on the school they attended...you are no more elite than the next person (ESPECIALLY with your GPA, which by the way, will cause you to be rejected right off the bat from certain school who will not even look at a sub-3.0 applicant).

Have a slice of humble pie, hell...have the entire pie!
Retake your DAT, apply to 20+ schools and gain a lot of exposure to the dental field.
*Better yet--you should apply for a post-bacc program to pull up that GPA.

It's quite interesting that you believe you would get into those top dental schools with your stats, just because you went to Stanford

 

[horns1011]

You go to BU. I'm not sure I would call anyone an idiot.

I just don't want to stoop down to the likes of NYU, Tufts, Temple.

Dude, now you are just making a fool out of yourself. Perhaps if you would have toned down the arrogance and focused more on your immensely rigorous studies you speak of, you wouldn't be in this position.

 

[DazzlingSmile87]

I think you have a good shot at harvard, columbia, and penn. with over a 2.0 gpa and a 17AA or above, coupled with 35 hours! of shadowing, you will be more than competitive to these top programs. You might get a full ride to UCLA, so try that out also.

 

[Marteenzies]

I guess I'm just confused. I figured they would heavily weigh undergrad. I don't mean to be rude, but it's just seems dumb not to.

My DAT scores are right there with most acceptance averages. You mean to tell me that another applicant with similar DAT scores but a higher gpa would make a better applicant... even though they might have attended a party school like Arizona State, rather than a school with a very difficult curriculum?

 

[AwesomeTeeth]

I guess I'm just confused. I figured they would heavily weigh undergrad. I don't mean to be rude, but it's just seems dumb not to.

My DAT scores are right there with most acceptance averages. You mean to tell me that another applicant with similar DAT scores but a higher gpa would make a better applicant... even though they might have attended a party school like Arizona State, rather than a school with a very difficult curriculum?

Yes.

 

[bing12]

I guess I'm just confused. I figured they would heavily weigh undergrad. I don't mean to be rude, but it's just seems dumb not to.

My DAT scores are right there with most acceptance averages. You mean to tell me that another applicant with similar DAT scores but a higher gpa would make a better applicant... even though they might have attended a party school like Arizona State, rather than a school with a very difficult curriculum?

wow...you are really smart, catchin on quickly

 

[flabernak]

:troll:

 

[Marteenzies]

Way to even out the playing field for those that settle for mediocrity. I guess I should have attended a state school like every Tom, Dick, and Harry and coasted my way to a 3.8. I'm just going to call up or email an adcom myself, get first hand advice. No point in taking crap from a bunch of condescending underachievers.

 

[321931]

Way to even out the playing field for those that settle for mediocrity. I guess I should have attended a state school like every Tom, Dick, and Harry and coasted my way to a 3.8. I'm just going to call up or email an adcom myself, get first hand advice. No point in taking crap from a bunch of condescending underachievers.

UMADBRO?

 

[bing12]

Way to even out the playing field for those that settle for mediocrity. I guess I should have attended a state school like every Tom, Dick, and Harry and coasted my way to a 3.8. I'm just going to call up or email an adcom myself, get first hand advice. No point in taking crap from a bunch of condescending underachievers.

Again, i am astonished at how quickly you are able to comprehend material. yes, calling up an adcom will be beneficial to your situation. you see, a 3.8 from your school would be better than a 3.8 at most schools, and also a 2.7 from your school is better than a 2.9 from others schools( non-prestigious) as well. Guess how many students get into dental school with a 2.7...im thinking youll guess correctly, you have been on fire lately

 

[MechZZ]

What's everybody's favorite girlscout cookies?

I like short bread ones or they used to be called trefoils. I actually really dislike the tagalongs.

 

[lmaozedong1]

Way to even out the playing field for those that settle for mediocrity. I guess I should have attended a state school like every Tom, Dick, and Harry and coasted my way to a 3.8. I'm just going to call up or email an adcom myself, get first hand advice. No point in taking crap from a bunch of condescending underachievers.

 

[Daurang]

I guess I'm just confused. I figured they would heavily weigh undergrad. My DAT scores are right there with most acceptance averages. You mean to tell me that another applicant with similar DAT scores but a higher gpa would make a better applicant... even though they might have attended a party school like Arizona State, rather than a school with a very difficult curriculum?

I was in your exact situation so I can agree and empathize with you. Unfortunately, adcom don't have engineering background so don't appreciate that your BS bioengineering is so much harder than BA biological science. I was in BS electrical engineering and saw how BA bio majors taking mickey mouse courses were getting in dental schools. I abruptly switched major to take the same courses and brought my gpa up along with very high dat to get in dental school. It's too late for you...I'm sorry.

 

[AtlantaBraves]

Marteenzies. It is quite the accomplishment to get into a school like Stanford. Unfortunately, adcoms won't overlook a low GPA and DAT just because you went to an awesome school. Adcoms will hold you accountable. Having a low GPA and low DAT score in general is not good. It is especially not good to have a low DAT score because you didn't bother to study for it. There are a lot of people on this forum who have put in a lot of time and effort studying for the DAT. If you can get a 23+ with only 2 or 3 weeks of studying, then wow. Realistically, most of us spent months preparing for the DAT. Also, shadowing a dentist does not mean you completely understand everything about the dynamics of the dental profession. It is one thing to just be naive, but please don't come on to this forum pretending like you understand everything about getting into dental school and being a dentist. Most of us have already been accepted to schools, and can provide helpful information if you ask for it without being arrogant. Honestly, if you did get into stanford, you probably are capable of getting the dat scores and gpa needed to get into dental school. Unfortunately for you, most schools require an interview. Unless you change your attitude and condescending nature, I don't think you will get into any schools. But good luck anyways, a**hole

 

[kov82]

You go to BU. I'm not sure I would call anyone an idiot.

What about schools like Michigan, Maryland, San Antonio, etc? I just don't want to stoop down to the likes of NYU, Tufts, Temple.

I do have about 150 hours of volunteering... would that make up for the below average gpa?

wow you must have been cracking up when writing this one up, you knew you would draw in a lot of people but they smelled you a mile away

and just for everyone else as far as I know BU, NYU and especially TUFTS have good reputations, they are expensive which is the only reason people turn them down, if anything, even their location becomes a factor in a lot of peoples decision to pay more to attend those schools

the only way you will see Harvard with those scores is on a tour bus buddy, and while you're there, why dont you ask them what they think of Stanford

 

[321931]

Ok time to wrap it up guys. The dude registered...2/24/2011. A troll is a troll. Just report it to a Mod and delete it.

 

[lemoncurry]

this is why people troll: because they know they can get people to bite.