Obviously, I know any speciality is going to involve a lot of work and that's something we have to be prepared for, but, in general, what do you believe the ones with the best hours are?
Which speciality has the best hours?
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I believe unemployment offers a rather attractive vacation package
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Actually, I hear the queues in the unemployment lines are becoming quite long these days! 10% unemployment and all 😛
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how about pathology?
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Dermatology.
From 2004, but I think it's pretty much still true:
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/07/u...no-weekend-calls-no-beepers.html?pagewanted=1
From 2004, but I think it's pretty much still true:
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/07/u...no-weekend-calls-no-beepers.html?pagewanted=1
Thanks for the info! It's very appreciated! I'm aware that those two words are synonymous, I just forgot that I had already written queue and didn't reread before submitting. 🙂
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No problem. My mom and her mom are english teachers, so sometimes I become the vocab Nazi.
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EM, Psy, Derm, Optho, PM&R, Rad Onc
Interesting article, thanks for the link.
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optha and anesthesia
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Optho is the "O"
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I've heard this, also.
Just as ROADE (the E is silent)
What exactly is it that is so coveted about the ROADE (E-ROAD 🙄) specialties? Is it good hours, good pay, relatively easy work?
I think it's supposed to be a healthy pay/hours ratio.
I've heard this, also.
Just as ROADE (the E is silent
Haha I like that...It reminds me of how I want to name my kids someday! Just to throw people off...Like name them Tmark...but the T is silent and then it will be funny to listen to people pronounce it!
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This. And no call. The work is also somewhat less demanding than say surgery or interventional cardiology.
Plus with ophthalmology being a surgical specialty you can choose to do a lot of clinic, a lot of surgery or somewhere in betwee.
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I've always wanted to do the same thing! Add some silent x or q in there, like Qbob.
Anyway, back to the topic at hand...
Yeah, I think it's hours/pay ratio - that's why people include EM in there because you don't necessarily have to work as many hours and you're never on call. Most places do 12 hr shifts and you can actually get away with working 3 days/week at some places.
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I have been pushing the "ROADE" for some time....
It basically means low hrs, good pay, and decent lifestyle.
It basically means low hrs, good pay, and decent lifestyle.
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And it allows for the legacy of the great "ROAD" to remain!! 🙄
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You beat me to it.
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Seriously, if you're that worried about hours you should sit down and ask yourself seriously why you're not applying to dental school.
If dentistry were a residency after medical school it would be pretty competitive. It's a good gig.
If dentistry were a residency after medical school it would be pretty competitive. It's a good gig.
Some physician hours are a lot lower than the hours of the field that I come from. Coming from business, it's not uncommon to work 80 hrs a week. Therefore, I'm not necessarily concerned with hours. I was merely speculating as to which fields are generally considered to be the best. As I said, I come from a business background, so even some of those hours listed there on the above photo seem 'good' to me.
In any case, I'm glad I posed this question as the above photo does give a great outline on correlations between hours worked, salary, and years in residency. It's pretty interesting.
In any case, I'm glad I posed this question as the above photo does give a great outline on correlations between hours worked, salary, and years in residency. It's pretty interesting.
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Dermatologists are often called "skin dentists," FWIW.
Anesthesiology and Radiology are lifestyle specialties but they do not offer good hours. They offer high pay and controllable hours but many can work close to 60 hours a week.
Great list! Most specialties are somewhat controllable once you're well-established, if you're not worried about making the average salary or better. I know some physicians who work part-time, which still ends up being close to 40 hours/week. My friend and her husband are both physicians, and they've worked out their schedules so that their young kids are never in daycare. They're also not making nearly as much as two physicians typically would make.
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interesting article, even if it is a bit old. i kind of get annoyed when doctors are like "oh, med students aren't as devoted to the field these days."
as a woman, especially, i don't think it is a "lack of devotion" to not want to work 100 hours a week when you finish your insanely-long slavery-like debt-inducing training so you can actually spend some time with your family.
you have to jump through so many hoops to get to the point of being an attending, if you weren't devoted, you wouldn't make it. but does that mean that you have to spend the rest of your life living in the hospital, on call 5 nights a week, never seeing your own children or husbands/wives?
come on. i'm all for a certain degree of personal sacrifice, but it shouldn't have to be all or nothing. doctors are people too, and they deserve to have some semblance of a life.
as a woman, especially, i don't think it is a "lack of devotion" to not want to work 100 hours a week when you finish your insanely-long slavery-like debt-inducing training so you can actually spend some time with your family.
you have to jump through so many hoops to get to the point of being an attending, if you weren't devoted, you wouldn't make it. but does that mean that you have to spend the rest of your life living in the hospital, on call 5 nights a week, never seeing your own children or husbands/wives?
come on. i'm all for a certain degree of personal sacrifice, but it shouldn't have to be all or nothing. doctors are people too, and they deserve to have some semblance of a life.
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Yes, you need to recalibrate your "pretentiousness meter," old chap.
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Been practicing rectal exams on yourself lately?
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So some people are generalizing that primary care specialties may experience increased pay with all these health care changes. Do you think that Psychiatry would be improved salary-wise as well? I may end up with over 300k in debt and getting paid 150k a year as a psychiatrist doesn't sound that great at the moment.
