Which specialties are going to make over 300k in 12 years?

[Ontology]

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I'm just wondering because of the imminent pay cuts.

 

[Oo Cipher oO]

I'm just wondering because of the imminent pay cuts.

I asked my magic 8 ball and it said "yes". I think that settles it.

 

[tantacles]

I asked my magic 8 ball and it said "yes". I think that settles it.

Mine said "The future is cloudy," but it's running Windows Vista, so I can understand how it feels.

 

[HoltMD]

Mine said, ask again in 12 years. 😀

 

[I'm No Superman]

Well, let's do the math... 300,000 /12 =25,000yr.

so I'd say all of them will make 300k in 12 years.

 

[NickNaylor]

Well, let's do the math... 300,000 /12 =25,000yr.

so I'd say all of them will make 300k in 12 years.

This analysis is solid.

 

[typicalindian]

Mine said "The future is cloudy," but it's running Windows Vista, so I can understand how it feels.

Since when did magic 8 balls get operating systems? 😕

 

[mmmcdowe]

Since when did magic 8 balls get operating systems? 😕

Ever since Steve Jobs invented the I-Ball

 

[Double Trouble]

It's a valid question that no one can give a valid answer for.

 

[kpcrew]

Well, let's do the math... 300,000 /12 =25,000yr.

so I'd say all of them will make 300k in 12 years.

also by the end of the 12 years, 300k will be worth a lot less due to inflation.

 

[Knocked Up]

I'm just wondering because of the imminent pay cuts.

None.

If you want to make money, follow these words and hold them dearly:

Drill and BILL $$$$$

 

[GoZags]

Well, let's do the math... 300,000 /12 =25,000yr.

so I'd say all of them will make 300k in 12 years.

 

[Skinceutical]

california plastics

/safe bets

You do realize that the average Mississippi or Arkansas plastic surgeon will out-earn the average California plastic surgeon?

California is a saturated market for most medical specialties, including plastics. The South, on the other hand, is comparatively underserved, and compensation there tends to be higher overall to attract more physicians.

 

[Ontology]

Wow, not a single helpful answer. Thanks pricks

 

[chronicidal]

Wow, not a single helpful answer. Thanks pricks

are you joking? ortho spine, neurosurgery, and private practice plastics are safe bets.

 

[Skinceutical]

Wow, not a single helpful answer. Thanks pricks

Someone already gave you the most correct, helpful answer anyone can. This should have ended the discussion a dozen posts ago:

It's a valid question that no one can give a valid answer for.

 

[anbuitachi]

neurosurgery, orthopedics, dermatology, plastics, retina surgeon.... and that's about it. pay is getting a huge cut across the board and expect more cuts because these cuts on doctors pay won't do anything to help our healthcare problems, but our failure government doesn't realize that so they will keep on cutting compensation. soon doctors will be working 1.5x the hours of nurses while making slightly more .. ~150k

 

[DrBowtie]

Anything that comes out with new procedures. New procedure = New CPT code = High RVUs. Thats how procedural specialties stay on top. They cut the current procedure, they tweak it with new approaches or technology or technique and it becomes a new procedure.

 

[Ontology]

****, if what you guys r saying is true and most doctors are going to make under 300k? Than why the hell would anyone want to be a doctor?

 

[Gut Shot]

I'm just wondering because of the imminent pay cuts.

I think you just wrote your personal statement.

 

[IlDestriero]

All surgical specialists, IR, interventional pain, probably anesthesia and rads.

 

[gooze]

Anything that comes out with new procedures. New procedure = New CPT code = High RVUs. Thats how procedural specialties stay on top. They cut the current procedure, they tweak it with new approaches or technology or technique and it becomes a new procedure.

overall, i agree with this statement, but i think once exception has to got to be orthopedics, which has been using the same procedures for years now (just new implants but not necessarily new procedures). however, they are all very demanded procedures and high volume procedures so ortho still does pretty well...which brings me to my point. I think the fields that will continue to do well financially are those that will be in high demand in the next few years. if you look at the population and how the baby boomers are changing, fields that i think will be in high demand and thus demand high salaries are ortho, urology, optho, derm, cards, GI, oncology, rads, etc...at least that's what i think. but who knows.

 

[scarshapedstar]

****, if what you guys r saying is true and most doctors are going to make under 300k? Than why the hell would anyone want to be a doctor?

Median US income = 25k

 

[Skinceutical]

Median US income = 25k

Your point being?

 

[da8s0859q]

I'm just wondering because of the imminent pay cuts.

Wow, not a single helpful answer. Thanks pricks

You asked:

"Predict the future 12 years from now, k thanx!"

We said:

"Dunno, but here are some safe bets."

You said:

"omg some other people poked fun at my silly question even though I got the best answer I could get! you're all pricks"

🙄

 

[intheclouds]

****, if what you guys r saying is true and most doctors are going to make under 300k? Than why the hell would anyone want to be a doctor?

Has it ever occurred to you that some people do it because it's a passion? I'm not trying to turn all holier-than-thou on you but c'mon...if you're doing it for money you are better off starting your own business.

OR better yet working in pharmaceuticals...that's where the real money is at. Or consider patent law...those lawyers make a killing as well.

You should re-consider if you're doing it for the money. There's many other medical related careers that can make you bigger $$$.

 

[Skinceutical]

I am not so sure. I am going to predict that in 12 years there will exist a great number of customers patients in California (relative to Mississippi or Arkansas) that will still be willing to pay cash for their breast augmentations, rhinoplasty, et al.

The market for cash-only, cosmetic services in wealthy, urban areas in California is saturated today, and will remain saturated for the foreseeable future. Incomes aren't lower there because the demand is low; rather, it's because the supply of cosmetic surgeons (and physicians in general, for that matter) is too high.

Demand for cash-only services may be somewhat less in MS or AK, but the supply of physicians remains disproportionately lower. From an income-only perspective, you'll probably be better off as one of the only PRS surgeons in a medium sized city in the South than as one of the dime a dozen cosmetic surgeons in Beverly Hills or La Jolla.

 

[EBTrailRunner]

Has it ever occurred to you that some people do it because it's a passion? I'm not trying to turn all holier-than-thou on you but c'mon...if you're doing it for money you are better off starting your own business.

OR better yet working in pharmaceuticals...that's where the real money is at. Or consider patent law...those lawyers make a killing as well.

You should re-consider if you're doing it for the money. There's many other medical related careers that can make you bigger $$$.

Not true. Not only are biopharma jobs hard to come by, they pay poorly and there's no job stability even with a doctorate.

 

[Truzzi]

There's many other medical related careers that can make you bigger $$$.

Out of curiosity, which fields are you talking about?

 

[I'm No Superman]

****, if what you guys r saying is true and most doctors are going to make under 300k? Than why the hell would anyone want to be a doctor?

Can I make this my new sig? Even if you say no I'll probably do it anyways. 😉

 

[scarshapedstar]

Truth, never heard of a plastic surgeon going broke in Atlanta or Dallas.

 

[235788]

None.

If you want to make money, follow these words and hold them dearly:

Drill and BILL $$$$$

words to live by

 

[johnisles2011]

My big money is on ortho due to the aging of the population. All these people are going to need new hips or whatever, and the obesity epidemic is just going to hurry that along. Those guys already make bank, and business might be picking up soon.

 

[intheclouds]

Glad we're all becoming doctors to prevent illness.

When I mentioned the pharmaceutical comment I meant sales positions, not actual research for pharma's. It's definitely not an ideal job but if all you're after is money, then do it. I don't want some money hungry fool sitting next to me in medical school (although I know it's inevitable and I will unfortunately come across people like this in medicine.)

 

[UnclePhil]

****, if what you guys r saying is true and most doctors are going to make under 300k?

Uh... what did who say that was true? No one said anything because no one has any idea what doctors' salaries are going to be like in 12 years.

Than why the hell would anyone want to be a doctor?

We like the coats.

 

[anbuitachi]

anesthiosiogly. they already make 400k a year right now. they are needed in every OR. surgeries are only going to increase as people age. theres a big shortage in anesthiosiologists.

 

[scarshapedstar]

anesthiosiogly. they already make 400k a year right now. they are needed in every OR. surgeries are only going to increase as people age. theres a big shortage in anesthiosiologists.

If you think CRNAs are bad, just wait until the AnesthoBot 9000 comes along.

 

[nikok]

Mine said "The future is cloudy," but it's running Windows Vista, so I can understand how it feels.

This analysis is solid.

I loterally lol'ed when I read this

 

[tantacles]

I loterally lol'ed when I read this

What do I win?

 

[Law2Doc]

Truth, never heard of a plastic surgeon going broke in Atlanta or Dallas.

In this economy the folks who specialize in elective cosmetic things are going broke all over the nation, actually. there's always some demand, but in a tight economy far fewer people are going to invest in that face lift or tummy tuck, so only a percentage of the docs in that region can stay afloat. If you work in a hospital fixing traumas, the demand stays stable, but the money isn't as impressive for that more important stuff. So yeah, in a prolonged economic downturn, if that is what we are anticipating, id take plastics off the list. Procedural fields that cater to geriatric populations (ie colonoscopies) are probably the most recession proof, actually.

 

[Law2Doc]

What do I win?

A thirteenth year at that salary.

 

[StoicJosher]

In this economy the folks who specialize in elective cosmetic things are going broke all over the nation, actually. there's always some demand, but in a tight economy far fewer people are going to invest in that face lift or tummy tuck, so only a percentage of the docs in that region can stay afloat. If you work in a hospital fixing traumas, the demand stays stable, but the money isn't as impressive for that more important stuff. So yeah, in a prolonged economic downturn, if that is what we are anticipating, id take plastics off the list. Procedural fields that cater to geriatric populations (ie colonoscopies) are probably the most recession proof, actually.

Amen.

 

[tantacles]

A thirteenth year at that salary.

A cloudy salary is better than none, I suppose. I'LL TAKE IT.