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Fascinating... thanks for the link!
 
Wow! Thanks for the link 🙂
 
Fascinating...and profoundly disturbing.
 
I agree. Let's hope his experience was atypical, but I'm really afraid it wasn't.
 
I haven't read all of it, but it does seem to focus on specific experiences that would raise some eyebrows. I'm sure there are as many positivie experiences that probably that are not provocative enough to sell.
 
Whoa - how depressing! Was the person who wrote that ever happy? And are they still in the medical field? Let's just hope that this is the exception and not the rule and that we all have happy and fulfilling careers.
 
Originally posted by tidy_kiwi:
•Whoa - how depressing! Was the person who wrote that ever happy? And are they still in the medical field? Let's just hope that this is the exception and not the rule and that we all have happy and fulfilling careers.•

I did a quick search on the author (Michael Greger) on Google to find that he seems to be doing public health research - lots and lots of published articles on mad cow and crohn's disease.

That article was eerily disturbing. I think that what made it sound so harsh was that he ONLY added the very negative quotes from and stories about docs and interns and sandwiched them between positive, philosophical quotes, proverbs, and poetry. He is undoubtedly a crafty writer. I don't believe for a second that he had THAT hard of a time - surely there were good days. Even within the article itself, every other person he met seemed to ask him why he was so sensitive...
 
hey,

i started a little discussion on this one in the lounge if anybody wants to take a look at it and get involved. 😀

i emailed the guy too and he actually responded within a few days, he was really nice.

😀
 
That was messed up. I'm worried.
 
jdub, Thanks for starting the lounge discussion. It's very thoughtful. I like your take on things.
 
To all the students who went to bed crying
or woke up screaming.
To all those who needed to leave their hearts at the door.


- "The four-pointed star... is a phenomenon carrying a grave and solemn warning."[1]

Besides medical school, there is probably no other four-year experience - unless it be four year's service in a war - that can so change the cognitive content of one's mind and the nature of one's relationships with others.
- F.D. Moorse, Harvard Medical School


This is the School of Babylon
And at its hand we learn
To walk into the furnaces
And whistle as we burn.
- Thomas Blackburn


I just graduated with honors from Tufts University School of Medicine, the class of 1999. I don't feel honorable, though. I have become disillusioned - disgusted even - by medical training and medicine as a whole. I want to help others dispel their illusions as well.

Medical school is four years long. The first two years are basic science lectures, more like an extension of college. The last two years, however, third year and fourth year, involve rotations through hospitals. "One of the few statements with which most physicians would agree," one doctor writes, "is that the third year, the year on the wards, is the critical year in medical education." [2] "In no year of their adult lives," another contends, "do students change so much as during the third year of medical school."[3] This is my story of third year, the worst year of my life.
 
I hate starting new threads. Everything has been done/said/discussed before. So I search and I bump.

I just wanted to mention that the author of this work, Heart Failure - Diary of a Third Year Medical Student will be speaking at UCLA on Tuesday, February 25, 2003. There are other dates around the country and can be viewed here
 
He appears to have only negative stories to share. Disturbing.
 
I mentioned this book in the thread on Greg Nicholson's new book on The 3rd Year of Med School. Greg's book is a little more positive, but still has a lot of disturbing information on medical education ( or the lack thereof) in the third year. I bumped up that thread for people who are interested.
 
I hope he's a bit more of a positive speaker. If not, then apps should be down next year!
 
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