Who else is sick of third year?

[nope80]

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Honestly, i'm on break right now and I just can't imagine having to go back to the hospital. I hate it. everytime I think about it, it makes me miserable. Not to mention, I am starting surgery in a week followed by medicine. How do you psych yourself up? How do you give yourself the mental energy to keep going? I just look at interns and residents and think, this is going to be me soon? Someone that is miserable, stuck in the hospital, with no life, no free time, why??????

Ahhh, two weeks of winter break vacation was nothing..anyone else in the same boat?😱

 

[smq123]

Honestly, i'm on break right now and I just can't imagine having to go back to the hospital. I hate it. everytime I think about it, it makes me miserable. Not to mention, I am starting surgery in a week followed by medicine. How do you psych yourself up? How do you give yourself the mental energy to keep going? I just look at interns and residents and think, this is going to be me soon? Someone that is miserable, stuck in the hospital, with no life, no free time, why??????

Ahhh, two weeks of winter break vacation was nothing..anyone else in the same boat?😱

I've had no vacation so far this year. While yeah, you get tired, it CAN be better as an intern than as a med student. When you're doing something you enjoy (and not a rotation that you grudgingly have to complete in order to graduate), and you like the people that you're working with, it's not so bad.

Plus, your free time is more your own. You're not spending all of your free time studying for the end of rotation shelf, like you had to do has a med student. You still have to study, and you may still get pimped, but you have somewhat more free time during the week to recharge.

 

[werd]

i was a 3rd year three years ago and i'm still sick of third year. keep in mind that as a resident you a) are at least doing something you signed up for and b) are getting paid for it.

 

[NCF145]

Honestly, i'm on break right now and I just can't imagine having to go back to the hospital. I hate it. everytime I think about it, it makes me miserable. Not to mention, I am starting surgery in a week followed by medicine. How do you psych yourself up? How do you give yourself the mental energy to keep going? I just look at interns and residents and think, this is going to be me soon? Someone that is miserable, stuck in the hospital, with no life, no free time, why??????

Ahhh, two weeks of winter break vacation was nothing..anyone else in the same boat?😱

I feel you. I'm just glad that I have Ob/Gyn out of the way. I couldn't imagine having to rotate through that disgusting hell hole at the end of 3rd year.

 

[Labslave]

Honestly, i'm on break right now and I just can't imagine having to go back to the hospital. I hate it. everytime I think about it, it makes me miserable. Not to mention, I am starting surgery in a week followed by medicine. How do you psych yourself up? How do you give yourself the mental energy to keep going? I just look at interns and residents and think, this is going to be me soon? Someone that is miserable, stuck in the hospital, with no life, no free time, why??????

Ahhh, two weeks of winter break vacation was nothing..anyone else in the same boat?😱

I was pretty miserable for many parts of third year, but just keep in mind that many before you have felt the same way and managed to make it through. You can, too.

What I would advise you to do is start reflecting on why it is that you are miserable. Is it the patients? The long hours? The personalities you're working with? Not getting the grades you'd like? Identifying the reasons why you're unhappy is important for many reasons, but remember that the most important thing you can get out of this year isn't the nuts and bolts of medicine (you have the rest of your life to learn that), but rather figuring out what you're going to choose to do for the rest of your life.

Everything else is gravy. As for the bad stuff, this too shall pass.

 

[nope80]

Its the early mornings, the long hours, the fact that you have to study when you get home because you don't know as much as youd like...basically what bothers me is the lack of balance in my life right now.

 

[nope80]

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[Doctor4Life1769]

I'm sick of proving myself in the office and in the OR and still apparently not having my OBGYN preceptor's confidence ... 👎

Not sure what to do here ... besides the obvious (continue to shine and work hard) ... ??

 

[ShyRem]

Perhaps you're not shining as brightly as you think you are.

 

[Doctor4Life1769]

Perhaps you're not shining as brightly as you think you are.

I asked her today. She said I have been doing an excellent job. It's just she doesn't have students do much b/c most of the patients she sees are Medicaid and they tend to sue ...

 

[FractureFixer]

Honestly, i'm on break right now and I just can't imagine having to go back to the hospital. I hate it. everytime I think about it, it makes me miserable. Not to mention, I am starting surgery in a week followed by medicine. How do you psych yourself up? How do you give yourself the mental energy to keep going? I just look at interns and residents and think, this is going to be me soon? Someone that is miserable, stuck in the hospital, with no life, no free time, why??????

Ahhh, two weeks of winter break vacation was nothing..anyone else in the same boat?😱

That sounds rough! hopefully you at least finished a hard rotation before you left!!

I feel about the same way.... 1.5 weeks left!!🙁

 

[smq123]

In Mexico internship consists of rotating through different rotations even if you don't like them. The rotation I hated was general surgery (I liked some aspects of it and the attendings were generally nice). However, I learned a lot of really important things and got at least some good things out of it (I'm quite good at dissecting infected lesions and really good at suturing which baffles a lot of people why I disliked surgery). Getting paid helps of course and getting long awaited vacations too!

What worked for me is that it was only 8 weeks (6 weeks taking away vacations) and it will end soon. Even residents hate something of their residencies and a lot of residents have to do 2 month rotations in subareas of their specialty at some time they won't particularly enjoy for various reasons but it's neccesary for them to learn.

I was also tired of being an M-3 at the end too in some ways (didn't like my classmates much being a huge part of it), though knowing how dreadfully tough the M-4 schedules are at my university I did miss the oodles of free time M-3 had for me. 😎

Just to clarify:

- Internship in Mexico = halfway through med school, not an MD yet?

- MS3 in Mexico = still in the classroom with a lot of book learning? I'm guessing that's the case, because "oodles of time" is DEFINITELY not how my MS3 year was....it was more along the lines of "80-110 hours of work per week."

The different terminology gets confusing. 😳

Internship in the US is the first year after you finish med school, so you're legally a physician at that point. I don't have to rotate through EVERYTHING, the way I did as a med student - most of my rotations are relevant to my chosen specialty.

 

[Doctor Bagel]

I asked her today. She said I have been doing an excellent job. It's just she doesn't have students do much b/c most of the patients she sees are Medicaid and they tend to sue ...

Honestly, this is a problem with your school (assuming you're an MS3 and not doing a preceptorship as an MS 1 or 2). They shouldn't put you into a core rotation where you're not allowed to do things. Definitely report it to your school, and hopefully they'll do something to rectify it.

OP, yeah, third year sucks, and I don't miss it. But it's only one year, and you're already halfway through. The good thing is that time passes pretty quickly on the hard rotations because you're working all the time.

 

[Substance]

I'm sick of proving myself in the office and in the OR and still apparently not having my OBGYN preceptor's confidence ... 👎

Not sure what to do here ... besides the obvious (continue to shine and work hard) ... ??

A good number of obstetricians tend to burn out VERY quickly after starting work. Sure, in medical school they are entrenched with the MIRACLE of LIFE(OMG BABYZZZ) and/or the militant heroics of FEMALE HEALTH(WOMYN!), but those so-called appeals soon wear off and what you're left with are physicians who didn't want to choose a surgical residency but inadvertently did(OBGYN is as grueling and inhumane as any surgical residency, I would say) and are sick and tired of seeing half of their paycheck get funneled to the mal med companies while they work 24 hours at a time catching babies dropping out of G14s.

Such physicians are full of pent-up rage. They will take this rage and try to make the powerless and defenseless feel worse. The most powerless and defenseless person in their general vicinity is the medical student. No matter what you do, they will find fault in everything. They'd probably yell at the patients if they knew they were safe from lawsuits.

 

[docONcall]

Honestly, i'm on break right now and I just can't imagine having to go back to the hospital. I hate it. everytime I think about it, it makes me miserable. Not to mention, I am starting surgery in a week followed by medicine. How do you psych yourself up? How do you give yourself the mental energy to keep going? I just look at interns and residents and think, this is going to be me soon? Someone that is miserable, stuck in the hospital, with no life, no free time, why??????

Ahhh, two weeks of winter break vacation was nothing..anyone else in the same boat?😱

I like MS3 better than MS1 and MS2. When I was MS1 and MS2, all I did was review the ****ing notes for at least 4 hours a day. I didn't know until I got in med school that just reading your notes could make you go crazy! Reviewing your notes so you wouldn't get left behind was the most frustrating of all! And mind you after all those reviewing's that I did, I was just an average student. And let's not talk about the freaking rankings! I hate being stuck in the freaking classroom and labs! I'd rather get stuck in the hospital than classroom! Not to mention, those hateful professors of mine that I had in the first two years still give me nightmares!

I actually did enjoy surgery more than any rotations that I've been so far. I loathe, despise, abhor (you get the point) pediatrics! I love kids, and seeing them getting hurt, suffering, and dying makes me very weak. If I could choose, I would spend my whole third year in surgery!

And oh, the good-looking male residents are definitely a plus! 🙂 I dunno but I noticed that there are lots of good-looking residents in general surgery! : )

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EDIT: Am I the only one who dislikes pediatrics?

 

[nlax30]

3rd year is definitely better than the first two.... 2nd year just sucked. So far I haven't hit the wall yet this year but now the stress and anxiety concerning Step 2 and residency apps are beginning.

I think having decent rotations makes huge difference. Even if it's long hours I don't mind as much as long as I am involved somehow and get to participate. Not really looking at FP as of now but enjoyed the rotation because it was me and the attending at he basically let me run my own rooms and come up with care plans. On surgery now with a doc in private practice and while clinic days are not that great since I'm basically shadowing... It's just me and him during surgery so I'm able to do quite a bit.

 

[Noeljan]

I like MS3 better than MS1 and MS2. When I was MS1 and MS2, all I did was review the ****ing notes for at least 4 hours a day. I didn't know until I got in med school that just reading your notes could make you go crazy! Reviewing your notes so you wouldn't get left behind was the most frustrating of all! And mind you after all those reviewing's that I did, I was just an average student. And let's not talk about the freaking rankings! I hate being stuck in the freaking classroom and labs! I'd rather get stuck in the hospital than classroom! Not to mention, those hateful professors of mine that I had in the first two years still give me nightmares!

I actually did enjoy surgery more than any rotations that I've been so far. I loathe, despise, abhor (you get the point) pediatrics! I love kids, and seeing them getting hurt, suffering, and dying makes me very weak. If I could choose, I would spend my whole third year in surgery!

And oh, the good-looking male residents are definitely a plus! 🙂 I dunno but I noticed that there are lots of good-looking residents in general surgery! : )

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EDIT: Am I the only one who dislikes pediatrics?

I love third year as well, however I still feel like we have to study note/review except this time we have clinical (and if you want to read up on pts a lot you have less shelf review time). I hate prepping for shelf exams, but love being in clinical situtations. If it were not for shelf exams third year would actually be really enjoyable/easy. I feel it is always hanging over your head. I wouldn't mind being in the hospital 24/7 if it were not for those things (then again I have no life, lover, or children so someone else might have reasons to want to be out of the hospital)

 

[Muhannadfa]

u know what man
i'm sick of the whole years of medicine
its down and down
just **** such thing

 

[ShyRem]

You're gonna LOVE fourth year.... 😍 You get to feel human again in fourth year (and I liked 3rd year).

 

[AbcJuly]

I am at the end of my third year and watching students who have only done one rotation attempt to write a Post-Op note or a simple SOAP infuriates me! Then I remember....yes, I sucked that bad too when I started 🙂

What I most hate about this last rotation of third year (Surgery) is the egos: and I'm not just talking about residents. I AM going to be a surgeon, but I'm not going to call people names, disrespect other students, make fun of illness, and be a complete ass to my other residents (even when the screw me out of cases).

I can't wait till March 1st - the official start of my fourth year! 7 more weeks...7 more weeks....

 

[AbcJuly]

I am at the end of my third year and watching students who have only done one rotation attempt to write a Post-Op note or a simple SOAP infuriates me! Then I remember....yes, I sucked that bad too when I started 🙂

What I most hate about this last rotation of third year (Surgery) is the egos: and I'm not just talking about residents. I AM going to be a surgeon, but I'm not going to call people names, disrespect other students, make fun of illness, and be a complete ass to my other residents (even when the screw me out of cases).

I can't wait till March 1st - the official start of my fourth year! 7 more weeks...7 more weeks....

 

[MJB]

A good number of obstetricians tend to burn out VERY quickly after starting work. Sure, in medical school they are entrenched with the MIRACLE of LIFE(OMG BABYZZZ) and/or the militant heroics of FEMALE HEALTH(WOMYN!), but those so-called appeals soon wear off and what you're left with are physicians who didn't want to choose a surgical residency but inadvertently did(OBGYN is as grueling and inhumane as any surgical residency, I would say) and are sick and tired of seeing half of their paycheck get funneled to the mal med companies while they work 24 hours at a time catching babies dropping out of G14s.

Such physicians are full of pent-up rage. They will take this rage and try to make the powerless and defenseless feel worse. The most powerless and defenseless person in their general vicinity is the medical student. No matter what you do, they will find fault in everything. They'd probably yell at the patients if they knew they were safe from lawsuits.

I had nearly the exact opposite experience.

I was with a male OB/GYN.



As for 3rd year...thus far, it seems like a big ol' waste of time...really, the last 2 years seem that way.

 

[IMDoc607]

You're gonna LOVE fourth year.... 😍 You get to feel human again in fourth year (and I liked 3rd year).

I liked 3rd year also...

 

[molossus]

the only one who dislikes pediatrics?[/QUOTE]

nope!

 

[twofish]

I hated majority of the 3rd year. Only rotation I like is the Peds (which I did out of town). I hate studying for shelf, working late, and some dreadful residents and attendings. I can't wait for it to be over.

Some people seemed a bit happier than me about 3rd year. I just feel there is no real life for me now and I'm all on my own.

 

[rachmoninov3]

a few months from the end of third year, and here's what great and what totally sucks about it.

Good: 85% less lectures. Actually caring for patients. Each day is a day to actually learn from real life, not just books or sitting in lectures. That part of it can be very interesting, and make you forget about your life outside of the hospital.

Bad: While you can help patients, you really can't help the team that much. I feel like asking: Is there anything I can help you with, or should I just stay out of the way? Of course I'll long for these days when I actually have responisbility.

Ugly: I hate the beating my out-of-hospital life has taken. Luckilly, the second block of 4th year will be step 2/vacation for me, so I can actually spend time with my husband!!!!

 

[nlax30]

a few months from the end of third year, and here's what great and what totally sucks about it.

Good: 85% less lectures. Actually caring for patients. Each day is a day to actually learn from real life, not just books or sitting in lectures. That part of it can be very interesting, and make you forget about your life outside of the hospital.

Bad: While you can help patients, you really can't help the team that much. I feel like asking: Is there anything I can help you with, or should I just stay out of the way? Of course I'll long for these days when I actually have responisbility.

Ugly: I hate the beating my out-of-hospital life has taken. Luckilly, the second block of 4th year will be step 2/vacation for me, so I can actually spend time with my husband!!!!

Ditto 👍

I guess was a little surprised at how rough this was going to be schedule-wise. Because really it's not like the amount of studying has gone down a significant amount, but now you're pretty much working full time (at least) and THEN have to study.

All that said, you couldn't pay me to do first two years again.

 

[Aphasic]

I'm fine with long hours, and actually want to look stuff up so I feel less ignorant (though this hasn't really been working), but the worst part is having to go through a bunch of rotations that I couldn't possibly care less abt

 

[DocYuki]

Yeah, on surgery now. Sucks. Hate the lack of life, long hours, feeling useless, big egos, and endless scut work. Any pre-med who wants to go into medicine needs to live a day of this, I promise it'll make you at least think harder.

Anyway. Full steam ahead. Gotta get thru the year, then 4th year awaits 😀 I'm heading for FM.

 

[rahulb]

i finished a brutal surgery rotation in jan and followed up with a difficult IM rotation the monday after.

i haven't had a weekend off in 2 months and i'm at my wit's end, but just gotta grit your teeth and get through it. you're a man after all 😍

 

[Jwax]

I like MS3 better than MS1 and MS2. When I was MS1 and MS2, all I did was review the ****ing notes for at least 4 hours a day. I didn't know until I got in med school that just reading your notes could make you go crazy! Reviewing your notes so you wouldn't get left behind was the most frustrating of all! And mind you after all those reviewing's that I did, I was just an average student. And let's not talk about the freaking rankings! I hate being stuck in the freaking classroom and labs! I'd rather get stuck in the hospital than classroom! Not to mention, those hateful professors of mine that I had in the first two years still give me nightmares!

I actually did enjoy surgery more than any rotations that I've been so far. I loathe, despise, abhor (you get the point) pediatrics! I love kids, and seeing them getting hurt, suffering, and dying makes me very weak. If I could choose, I would spend my whole third year in surgery!

And oh, the good-looking male residents are definitely a plus! 🙂 I dunno but I noticed that there are lots of good-looking residents in general surgery! : )

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EDIT: Am I the only one who dislikes pediatrics?

Agreed on almost all you said. Including your thoughts on surgery and peds. I hated peds for the same reasons. Kids are great, but hurt/sick kids are so depressing.

This pretty much sums up my feelings on 3rd year:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0f2ezJ57-o

That is awesome.

 

[ADeadLois]

a few months from the end of third year, and here's what great and what totally sucks about it.

Good: 85% less lectures. Actually caring for patients. Each day is a day to actually learn from real life, not just books or sitting in lectures. That part of it can be very interesting, and make you forget about your life outside of the hospital.

Bad: While you can help patients, you really can't help the team that much. I feel like asking: Is there anything I can help you with, or should I just stay out of the way? Of course I'll long for these days when I actually have responisbility.

Ugly: I hate the beating my out-of-hospital life has taken. Luckilly, the second block of 4th year will be step 2/vacation for me, so I can actually spend time with my husband!!!!

QFT (except the husband part, obviously)

 

[Aphasic]

EDIT: Am I the only one who dislikes pediatrics?

I HATE peds! We have 2-5h of lec every day, otherwise all I do is WCCs, or hope to contract some disease from the germy kids so I can miss a few days. 😴

I may only have to work 40h/w but I spend every minute wanting to stick my pen thru my eye, so I can go to ER and skip a few hours.

Sorry for ranting.