who else sucks at english classes?

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I love this conceit that anyone getting A's in English courses without fumbling haplessly over the paper for a week must be attending a lowly junior college populated by stupid "teachers" who cannot understand a thoughtful progression of ideas. Get over yourself.
 
I love this conceit that anyone getting A's in English courses without fumbling haplessly over the paper for a week must be attending a lowly junior college populated by stupid "teachers" who cannot understand a thoughtful progression of ideas. Get over yourself.

Get over yourself?!!?!!? those are fu*king fighting words!!!! lets duke it out son! 🙂

its not about getting A's. Its getting A+'s with absolutely no effort, as TamarMD suggested. Quit side-stepping. Perhaps you need a critical thinking course to go along with that eng1a/eng1b combo you took freshman yr.
 
I love this conceit that anyone getting A's in English courses without fumbling haplessly over the paper for a week must be attending a lowly junior college populated by stupid "teachers" who cannot understand a thoughtful progression of ideas. Get over yourself.

It is sort of odd. I've taken humanities and English classes where friends of mine wrestled with paper topics for over a week and gotten a B+, while I wrote mine the night before for an equal or better grade. Similarly, I've taken math classes that those same friends breeze through, while I struggled for a B.

Different strokes for different folks. Just seems silly that some people on here won't admit they have strengths and weaknesses.

EDIT: Before Tycoonman implies I've only taken introductory English classes, my 45+ hour English transcript and English minor would beg to disagree.
 
It is sort of odd. I've taken humanities and English classes where friends of mine wrestled with paper topics for over a week and gotten a B+, while I wrote mine the night before for an equal or better grade. Similarly, I've taken math classes that those same friends breeze through, while I struggled for a B.

Different strokes for different folks. Just seems silly that some people on here won't admit they have strengths and weaknesses.

EDIT: Before Tycoonman implies I've only taken introductory English classes, my 45+ hour English transcript and English minor would beg to disagree.

You took 45 hours of English classes and only got a minor out of it?
 
It is sort of odd. I've taken humanities and English classes where friends of mine wrestled with paper topics for over a week and gotten a B+, while I wrote mine the night before for an equal or better grade. Similarly, I've taken math classes that those same friends breeze through, while I struggled for a B.

Different strokes for different folks. Just seems silly that some people on here won't admit they have strengths and weaknesses.

EDIT: Before Tycoonman implies I've only taken introductory English classes, my 45+ hour English transcript and English minor would beg to disagree.

:laugh:

ok, i have a double major in finance and english. but who has a bigger you-know-what?😉

for the record, i completely agree that some people are gifted in certain things and others aren't. If anything, I was defending english as major because I found TamarMD's comment of how easy it is to be a slight. I too did fairly well in english. I can tell you, however, upper-div english makes the gen-ed stuff look like ESL.
 
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I could personally rant for hours about my experiences in English 102, which was taught by a professor who stated that, in her opinion, no freshman was capable of earning "A's" in English. It was THE least enjoyable course I have endured. Until then, English had always been one of my favorite subjects.
 
Okay I didn't know that my comment was going to upset so much people. I'm not a shakespeare reincarnate, I just do well in all of my english courses. I've ALWAYS done well in all of my english and composition courses. The only time I didn't get an A in english was in Junior High School for one quarter and that's because I didn't hand in my journal. It didn't matter because that quarter didn't count and I received an A for the semester anyway. My kindergarten teachers had no clue what to do with me because they would assign a reading packet in the morning that was supposed to be for 2 weeks and I would be done before lunch time. I just take to Humanities courses like a fish to water. I did well on both my AP English exams and received a 95 on the New York State Regents (which I guess isn't really doing well because the highest score is a 99). Now sciences are another story. I actually have to TRY at those courses which is why I chose the medicine path in the first place. I like to challenge myself. I'm sorry that you guys find English & Humanities courses to be difficult. However my scores don't reflect that something is wrong with whatever institution I go to. I find it funny that if someone easily gets an A in a humanities course it's "oh they must go to a crappy school", but if someone gets an A in an upper division science course and goes "I just understood it, it's not as hard as half the people on SDN make it out to be" no one questions their institution. Some people just do well in certain subjects.
 
Okay I didn't know that my comment was going to upset so much people. I'm not a shakespeare reincarnate, I just do well in all of my english courses. I've ALWAYS done well in all of my english and composition courses. The only time I didn't get an A in english was in Junior High School for one quarter and that's because I didn't hand in my journal. It didn't matter because that quarter didn't count and I received an A for the semester anyway. My kindergarten teachers had no clue what to do with me because they would assign a reading packet in the morning that was supposed to be for 2 weeks and I would be done before lunch time. I just take to Humanities courses like a fish to water. I did well on both my AP English exams and received a 95 on the New York State Regents (which I guess isn't really doing well because the highest score is a 99). Now sciences are another story. I actually have to TRY at those courses which is why I chose the medicine path in the first place. I like to challenge myself. I'm sorry that you guys find English & Humanities courses to be difficult. However my scores don't reflect that something is wrong with whatever institution I go to. I find it funny that if someone easily gets an A in a humanities course it's "oh they must go to a crappy school", but if someone gets an A in an upper division science course and goes "I just understood it, it's not as hard as half the people on SDN make it out to be" no one questions their institution. Some people just do well in certain subjects.

The key difference is that you said that you felt like your writings were F quality, and yet you still got A's. This is a problem to most people. I have never turned in a paper that I felt like was an F paper and gotten an A. The people who say they understand certain sciences never say that they felt like they were getting F's on exams and end up getting A's. Had they said anything like that, people would think that said person went to an easy school. I am not saying that you went to an easy institution or had an easy professor. I am just saying that I can see why some people might make this assertion.
 
Ok so then maybe I should clarify. To the professor they were not F quality. To ME they were F quality because I know what I'm capable of and I seriously did not try and did not put my best effort in those papers. My sister likes to read my papers and everytime she reads one that I receive an A+ on she says "this is BS and you know its BS and if I were your english teacher knowing what I know about your writing capabilities I would give you a F". So when I say papers that I think I deserve F's for I mean to say papers that I BS on and if my professors had any idea of what I was actually capable of writing they would probably give me a F on it for it being BS. Although I don't think it's allowed. In all honesty it is probably a mentality that I developed overtime because when I would receive those grades I would honestly feel as if I didn't deserve it. I wasn't trying to seem haughty or anything of the sort.
 
... non-sequitor is, well, non-sequitor in itself. ...

i completely agree about your assessment on grammar/spelling not being the whole story, but in this case (and only because i personally thought the word was spelled the same way you did) i must inform you that the correct spelling is non-sequitur. i know, i freaked out last night. i'm thinking the world shifted the spelling behind my back while i was sleeping. now you can continue to tyc00n your way across the english universe.


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Ok so then maybe I should clarify. To the professor they were not F quality. To ME they were F quality because I know what I'm capable of and I seriously did not try and did not put my best effort in those papers. My sister likes to read my papers and everytime she reads one that I receive an A+ on she says "this is BS and you know its BS and if I were your english teacher knowing what I know about your writing capabilities I would give you a F". So when I say papers that I think I deserve F's for I mean to say papers that I BS on and if my professors had any idea of what I was actually capable of writing they would probably give me a F on it for it being BS. Although I don't think it's allowed. In all honesty it is probably a mentality that I developed overtime because when I would receive those grades I would honestly feel as if I didn't deserve it. I wasn't trying to seem haughty or anything of the sort.

Ah, the heavy burden of genius. So just write the next Great American Novel in your spare time, and use the royalties to pay for your med school tuition and expenses, and graduate debt free.
 
lol at this. the more i read tamarmd's posts, the more i feel im being trolled. If you don't mind TamarMD, could you please post one of your writings? any writing.
 
Ah, the heavy burden of genius. So just write the next Great American Novel in your spare time, and use the royalties to pay for your med school tuition and expenses, and graduate debt free.

If only I could. If only I could.

the more i read tamarmd's posts, the more i feel im being trolled. If you don't mind TamarMD, could you please post one of your writings? any writing.

So doing well in English makes me a troll. I've read posts written by Trolls and my post is nothing of the sort. Honestly. I'm beginning to think that users on SDN are a bit troll happy. I have other post and they are not troll-like either. Furthermore unless you're an English teacher with a degree from an accredited institution I don't know what you plan to accomplish by reading a paper that I have written. I am not going to apologize for what I'm capable of doing. I've explained what I meant by saying that "I don't try" and so I really see no reason to go out of my way to prove myself to someone on an anonymous internet forum.
 
So doing well in English makes me a troll. I've read posts written by Trolls and my post is nothing of the sort. Honestly. I'm beginning to think that users on SDN are a bit troll happy. I have other post and they are not troll-like either. Furthermore unless you're an English teacher with a degree from an accredited institution I don't know what you plan to accomplish by reading a paper that I have written. I am not going to apologize for what I'm capable of doing. I've explained what I meant by saying that "I don't try" and so I really see no reason to go out of my way to prove myself to someone on an anonymous internet forum.
My advice: just enjoy the sweet, sweet liquor of jealousy. 😀
 
im glad to see I got everyone good and riled up by this post 🙂

no but seriously Tamar, we are going to need to see a 1-2 page response to the motivations of the father in William Faulkner's "Barn Burning"
 
im glad to see I got everyone good and riled up by this post 🙂

no but seriously Tamar, we are going to need to see a 1-2 page response to the motivations of the father in William Faulkner's "Barn Burning"

Would be imposible. Lol the only work of Faulkner that I'm familiar with is "As I Lay Dying". Would you like my thesis paper on how lies impact those that we care for that I wrote for English 2? I used not only "As I Lay Dying" but also "Things Fall Apart", "There eyes were watching God", and The Bible.

Purely sarcasm. I mean that was the paper but I'm not about to post it here.
 
Would be imposible. Lol the only work of Faulkner that I'm familiar with is "As I Lay Dying". Would you like my thesis paper on how lies impact those that we care for that I wrote for English 2? I used not only "As I Lay Dying" but also "Things Fall Apart", "There eyes were watching God", and The Bible.

Purely sarcasm. I mean that was the paper but I'm not about to post it here.

I actually like learning the subject matter of english. But when I have a test in genetics and immuno every other week, I really...really....realllllly don't feel like wasting my time reading poetry and analyzing poems. So usually I blow english off...which resulted in not the best grades in the world.

A-, and B for my two semesters of english. BLAHHHH.

I do like Robert Frost now. So high five for english!
 
You took 45 hours of English classes and only got a minor out of it?

Unfortunately, yes. The only course I needed for the major was rhetoric and propaganda, which was only offered during a course I needed for my bio major. It sucks, but I still got to take some great classes, like Fitzgerald and Hemingway, late Romanticism, and modern Irish literature. Great stuff.
 
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