Who spanked GYN shelf

[dozer89]

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Hey could everyone who took spanked the OB/GYN shelf (>90) post what materials they used. I posted the same thread for surgery and it really helped me. I dont like looking at the official post's for shelf exams because most people dont post what they go so you have no idea if they studied worked or not.

 

[Bubchik]

Blueprints ObGyn and uWise questions (our school subscribes for us)

 

[velo]

Blueprints ObGyn and uWise questions (our school subscribes for us)

Yeah same thing here. Although it was the end of the year and I was sick of shelves so although I skimmed most of blueprints the main thing I used were the questions in the back of blueprints (very high yield) and maybe about 1/4 of uWise. By that point of the year I had realized that pre-test is a waste of time (super low yeild)

 

[SLUser11]

Hey could everyone who took spanked the OB/GYN shelf (>90) post what materials they used. I posted the same thread for surgery and it really helped me. I dont like looking at the official post's for shelf exams because most people dont post what they go so you have no idea if they studied worked or not.

Blueprints and Pretest. This was my formula for all shelves except Surgery, and the formula worked.

 

[Anka]

Blueprints, casefiles, and pretest; also this little purple book I kept in my pocket and reviewed out of during downtime (Chan and Johnson, if memory serves).

Anka

 

[71263]

>90 on Gyn?? Is that even possible?? 😱

 

[SallySmartie]

Uwise questions? My school doesn't have those, where can I find them?

 

[domer621]

Uwise questions? My school doesn't have those, where can I find them?

http://www.apgo.org/elearn/uwise/index.cfm?doc=uWISE%20Units

FYI, it's $500 for a single subscription if your school doesn't already have one for you.

 

[felipe5]

pretest and casefiles is all you need

 

[SkylineMD]

Though case files is great to learn from, i dont think that case files alone will allow you to spank the shelf. HY ob/gyn covers a lot of things case files doesnt while case files organizes important topics in a way that allows you to retain it better. The above 2 along with UWise are definitely the way to go.

 

[trudub]

If you have uWISE they are great. Otherwise, I used Blueprints, Case Files, and Pretest. Some combination of those four things definitely seems to be the consensus. It doesn't mean all tests will be this way but I thought the test was heavily favored toward obstetrics topics rather than gynecologic topics.

 

[MeowMix]

Casefiles and nothing else.

 

[Trooth]

ditto - case files back and front only
only shelf i spanked too (>90)
almost got fam med (89) w/ CF alone

 

[eirinn152]

i have to agree, case files for ob was excellent. i did use seleced chapters in pretest too, but case files is where the money is...

 

[StephaniePlum]

97th, with case files and blueprints

 

[werd]

used blueprints and 1/2 of casefiles... gyn was my best shelf...

 

[gonius]

bump

 

[gbwillner]

bump

I have the test tomorrow.... can anyone say anything about material that they were unprepared for in the test? I'm using Blueprints and uWise...

I think uWise may be overrated... there are tons of typos and errors in the questions, and some are plain wrong. They haven't updated the questions since at least 2005.

I suck at shelf boards so I need all the help I can get.

 

[domer621]

I have the test tomorrow.... can anyone say anything about material that they were unprepared for in the test? I'm using Blueprints and uWise...

I think uWise may be overrated... there are tons of typos and errors in the questions, and some are plain wrong. They haven't updated the questions since at least 2005.

I suck at shelf boards so I need all the help I can get.

Go buy Case Files and read it.

 

[UCLAstudent]

I scored well using Blueprints and Case Files. I only got through 2/3 of Case Files, but it was a great investment --- one of the best books I've used for any rotation this year.

 

[stargirl50]

Another vote for Case Files. I did some questions from A&L but they were way way too detailed.

 

[gbwillner]

Go buy Case Files and read it.

Well, I didn't have enough time to get case files before the test... I think people on this forum overstate how easy this test was. Overall, it felt about as difficult as all the others. I would say roughly 10% of the questions were subjects not at all covered in Blueprints. I would bring up specifics but I'd probably get banninated for doing so.

 

[Ypo.]

I've went through CaseFiles, Beckmans, the two tests on ObGyn from the Kaplan question book, and all of the Uwise questions. I've also taken three tests from Kaplan for ObGyn residents.

I haven't taken the test yet, but I'm scoring 70-75% on the Kaplan Obgyn resident tests.

In my opinion, the Uwise questions have been the best. Casefiles was also very good and high yield, (but it is probably not enough on its own) and a really good supplement to Beckman. Kaplan was decent, but a little easier than I think the real test questions will be. Beckman's is too general and the questions are a joke. I didn't read blueprints, however, I think Beckman's was easy to read and a good overview; it just needs to be supplemented by a question bank.

However, I have done some of Pretest, and I have to say I think it sucks. A lot of the questions are obscurely worded which makes it difficult to understand what they are asking. I don't think it is high yield because I haven't learned much from the questions I got wrong.

 

[LadyGrey]

I'm reading Beckmann and have Case Files on order (have loved the series for everything else so far). Does anyone think the questions in Beckmann are worth looking at, or a waste of time? (If I'm gonna waste my time, I'll do it playing Rock Band 🙂) I looked at them for one or two chapters, and they seem crazily obsessed with statistics, as well as having some "right" answers that contradict the main text.

 

[domer621]

I don't even know what Beckmann's is, but I do know that there was not a single question about statistics on the shelf.

 

[McSnappy]

pretest and casefiles is all you need

Bump! 1st rotation🙂

The shelf isn't that tough. You just get ground down by seeing the same presentation 50x and then another 50 that are close.

Know emergent, know killers, know typicals, know what goes b/w fetus and mom, know HTN, know cancers, know cycles. All laid out in case files and then questioned in Pretest

 

[Ypo.]

I've went through CaseFiles, Beckmans, the two tests on ObGyn from the Kaplan question book, and all of the Uwise questions. I've also taken three tests from Kaplan for ObGyn residents.

I haven't taken the test yet, but I'm scoring 70-75% on the Kaplan Obgyn resident tests.

In my opinion, the Uwise questions have been the best. Casefiles was also very good and high yield, (but it is probably not enough on its own) and a really good supplement to Beckman. Kaplan was decent, but a little easier than I think the real test questions will be. Beckman's is too general and the questions are a joke. I didn't read blueprints, however, I think Beckman's was easy to read and a good overview; it just needs to be supplemented by a question bank.

However, I have done some of Pretest, and I have to say I think it sucks. A lot of the questions are obscurely worded which makes it difficult to understand what they are asking. I don't think it is high yield because I haven't learned much from the questions I got wrong.

Just got my score back: 90%.


I still stand by the Uwise questions and casefiles.

 

[blz]

Just got my score back: 90%.


I still stand by the Uwise questions and casefiles.

90 percentile or 90 raw? I need to hit 90+ raw on this bad boy.

 

[Ypo.]

90 percentile or 90 raw? I need to hit 90+ raw on this bad boy.

90 raw.

I advise case files, uwise and a text (either beckman or blueprints). You'll be solid with those three; the shelf was not that hard (limited amount of material covered, but you do have to know it cold) and I thought that every question was covered within those three sources.

 

[blz]

I took the test today and I felt it was my best shelf yet. I used Blueprints/casefiles and it was all I needed for this shelf. I hope I hit my goal of 90+raw. I'll let you all know how it goes.

 

[blz]

I took the test today and I felt it was my best shelf yet. I used Blueprints/casefiles and it was all I needed for this shelf. I hope I hit my goal of 90+raw. I'll let you all know how it goes.

got my score: 90 raw on the dot

Looks like casefiles and blueprints can get you to 90. the rest is up to you.

 

[nightowl]

is uwise just for ob/gyn or is it for all of the subjects? Does $500 cover for all of the subjects, and how long do you get it?

 

[smq123]

is uwise just for ob/gyn or is it for all of the subjects? Does $500 cover for all of the subjects, and how long do you get it?

Only for OB/gyn. I'm not sure how much it costs, etc. - our school got it for us.

 

[doctorE2010]

Are these books for the shelf also good for using prior to and durning rotations to help with rotations, or are they mostly just for the test? My first rotation is OBGYN so I'd like to know some good sources to prep for the rotaton itself.

 

[diosa428]

Are these books for the shelf also good for using prior to and durning rotations to help with rotations, or are they mostly just for the test? My first rotation is OBGYN so I'd like to know some good sources to prep for the rotaton itself.

Yeah Blueprints and Case Files both offer a good overview of the topics you will see or be asked about.

 

[sfbear]

blueprints
blueprints cases
case files
appleton & lange ?s
97 raw

A&L probably isn't the best question book out there, but it was free and i thought it was decent.
i thought the shelf was pretty straight-forward and OB-heavy.

btw, case files always has a great intro on how to take a history for the specialty, etc.

 

[diosa428]

blueprints
blueprints cases
case files
appleton & lange ?s
97 raw

A&L probably isn't the best question book out there, but it was free and i thought it was decent.
i thought the shelf was pretty straight-forward and OB-heavy.

btw, case files always has a great intro on how to take a history for the specialty, etc.

Did you think Case Files was better than Blueprints Cases or vice versa? I have both but am not sure I'll have time to get through them both.

 

[nasdr]

i dont have an answer to this question, but i wanted to ask how people compare the UWise questions with the ACOG questions (i assume they are different?).

thanks.

Did you think Case Files was better than Blueprints Cases or vice versa? I have both but am not sure I'll have time to get through them both.

 

[diosa428]

Does anyone know what percentile a 90 raw correlates with? Or approx what raw score you need to get 70th percentile? Thanks.

 

[sfbear]

Did you think Case Files was better than Blueprints Cases or vice versa? I have both but am not sure I'll have time to get through them both.

blueprints cases is a nice supplement/reinforcement of blueprints, but if you only have time for one i'd go with case files

 

[t33sg1rl]

Does anyone know what percentile a 90 raw correlates with? Or approx what raw score you need to get 70th percentile? Thanks.

All of the national shelf exams are curved so that 70 is average and standard deviation is always 6 to 8. You can calculate percentiles from that if you're statistically minded.

 

[teh t]

shelves dont always have a smooth distribution since each integer of raw score could equal 5 or more percentiles

 

[PhatGtDmB]

98 raw...ship it...highest shelf of the year for me:

Case Files (2x - this case files is by far the best case files and is unbelievably good that its well worth your time to go through it twice)
Blueprints (solid solid book)
USMLEWORLD + New Kaplan Qbank (hard as **** questions but really brilliantly written....taking the test was such a jokeshow after going through these questions)....anyways take care...holla

 

[DOme2009]

i only read the ob/gyn section of first-aid twice and got >90. that was one of the easiest shelf exams, despite how everyone at my school hyped it up. peds was a much more difficult exam, but that shelf doesn't matter much, kids are lame anyways 👍

 

[cantthinkofname]

Other than uWISE, what source did you guys use for questions? I need practice questions... anyone use Qbank?

 

[riverie]

Other than uWISE, what source did you guys use for questions? I need practice questions... anyone use Qbank?

I did the questions at the back of Blueprints text, and then I bought the Blueprints Step 2 Ob Gyn question book, which I thought was pretty good.

 

[Tsutsugamushi]

Any comments on using kaplan lecture notes and videos along with Beckmann?

 

[anon-y-mouse]

99 here. This was a pretty easy shelf I thought, and pretty much reinforced (to me) the fact that it doesn't take a genius to excel in this field, knowledge-wise. Interestingly, at the end of the rotation, one of the attendings commented that I knew more about obgyn than half my passive-aggressive residents from hell (although obviously their experience / OR time / etc. was greater than mine). Bitchiness is probably a prerequisite for obgyn that no nbme exam can assess. Honestly, every single question on that test could have been answered with Case Files, I thought. I read Kaplan, Blueprints, and Case Files... and did 80% of A&L (way too hard for this shelf), uWise (too hard, too different, but interesting/worthwhile), most of pretest (not very similar), and uworld (pretty good). The questions seemed to be mainly diagnosis and "what do you do if x" type. Studying hardcore for this was such a waste of my time and energy. Blueprints/Kaplan for initial knowledge acquisition, Case Files for reinforcement. Make sure you know your algorithms for various situations cold-- ex. vaginal bleeding, labor complications, STD's, etc.

 

[kalenakai]

thanks for the tips, everyone! i have ob/gyn next for 7 weeks. already have pretest, blueprints, casefiles, and recall in stock 🙄

 

[TonyDaTigrUprct]

Case Files x 1, UW q's x 1, is it enough?