who was the attending for this case???

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Patient claims battery over botched procedure

September 27, 2006 INDIANAPOLIS - The Indiana Supreme Court is considering whether a woman who had to have a second surgery after a medical student tore her esophagus during a botched procedure was a victim of battery.

Attorneys for W- Ruth Mullins say she signed documents saying she didn't want students in the operating room, but doctors ignored her wishes.
Her attorney, Sherrill Colvin, says the case fits the definition of battery because harm resulted after the student inserted a tube in Mullins' throat.

But Justice Frank Sullivan argued that the law requires that harm be intended to fit the definition of battery.

The court heard oral arguments in the case yesterday.

(Copyright 2006 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)
 
The attending was this guy:
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When patients have an operation or procedure at a teaching hospital, isn't that stated in the forms that patients have to sign that medical students, residents, ect. may be involved in their care? If she signed a paper stating that, I'm not sure how well her suit will hold up in court.
 
When patients have an operation or procedure at a teaching hospital, isn't that stated in the forms that patients have to sign that medical students, residents, ect. may be involved in their care? If she signed a paper stating that, I'm not sure how well her suit will hold up in court.

from;
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data2/indianastatecases/app/06300506jgb.pdf

On the day of her surgery, Ruth met with her anesthesiologist, Dr. Carboneau,
before the procedure had begun. According to Ruth, she asked Dr. Carboneau if she
would personally be handling the anesthetic procedures, and the doctor answered, “Yes.”
Appellants’ App. p. 352. Dr. Carboneau denies ever telling Ruth that she “would be
personally performing each separate task leading up to and involved during the
administration of anesthesia agents.” Carboneau’s Br. p. 3. Ruth signed Dr. Carboneau’s
consent form, which stated that only Dr. Carboneau “or a physician privileged to practice
anesthesia” would administer anesthesia to Ruth. Appellants’ App. p. 357. Dr.
Carboneau’s consent form does not mention the presence or participation of learners, and
she admits that during their meeting, she never mentioned that possibility to Ruth.
Ruth was under sedation and unconscious when VanHoey, a student studying for
certification as an emergency medical technician (EMT) at St. Francis, entered the
surgical room. As a part of her certification program, VanHoey was required to
successfully complete several intubations2 on living patients. Although VanHoey had
previously practiced the procedure on mannequins, the day of Ruth’s surgery was the first
time that VanHoey had ever attempted live intubations.


St. Francis and Parkview had contracted with each other for St. Francis students to
be trained in various medical procedures, including intubations, while under the
supervision of a Parkview employee. Per their agreement, St. Francis provided medical
malpractice insurance for students and faculty, and Parkview retained ultimate
responsibility and authority for each patient’s care. Appellants’ App. p. 412-14, 429.
Generally, the Parkview employee, called a “preceptor,” walked into an operating suite
prior to the start of a surgical procedure and asked if the patient was a candidate on which
the student could practice the intubation technique. If the anesthesiologist agreed, the
preceptor and the student learner entered the operating room, where the student would
attempt the intubation procedure. The patient was unaware of the student’s presence in
the room and participation in the procedure. While performing the procedure, the student
was supervised by the anesthesiologist, not the preceptor or any other Parkview
employee.


When VanHoey entered Ruth’s operating room, she was accompanied by her
preceptor, Colin White. White asked Dr. Carboneau if VanHoey could practice the
intubation procedure on Ruth, Dr. Carboneau consented, and Dr. Eastlund, who was
present in the operating room, voiced no objections. VanHoey made two attempts to
intubate Ruth using a laryngoscope. After her second attempt, both Dr. Carboneau and
Dr. Eastlund saw blood on the type of the laryngoscope, but apparently, the presence of
blood on the laryngoscope following intubation is not unusual, and neither doctor was
alarmed at the time. After VanHoey failed to intubate Ruth successfully, Dr. Carboneau
performed the procedure and completed Ruth’s anesthesia.


On December 6, 2000, two days after Ruth’s hysterectomy, the attending nurse
noticed that Ruth’s face and neck were beginning to swell. After running some tests, Dr.
Carboneau, Dr. Eastlund, and Dr. John Csicsko, a cardiovascular surgeon, met with Ruth
to explain that VanHoey had lacerated Ruth’s esophagus when she attempted to perform
the intubation procedure. The doctors explained to Ruth that she needed to undergo
another surgical procedure to repair the damage to her esophagus. Although Ruth was
reluctant to undergo another surgical procedure because she had just undergone the
hysterectomy, the doctors strongly encouraged her to have the procedure that day because
waiting until the next day could have been fatal. Thus, on the same day, Ruth had
surgery to repair her esophagus, and as a result of this second procedure, she had to
remain in the hospital for over a month until her dismissal on January 5, 2001.


On December 3, 2002, Ruth filed a complaint against the appellees-defendants,
alleging that they went beyond the scope of her informed consent, that they failed to
comply with the appropriate standard of care, and that their negligence was the proximate
cause of her injuries. A medical review panel (MRP) was convened pursuant to the
Indiana Malpractice Act, and on June 7, 2004, it concluded that Dr. Eastlund, Dr.
Carboneau, and Parkview complied with the appropriate standard of care.
 
Hmmm ... mixed feelings here.

On the one hand, it's gratifying to see doctors win (assuming they're good doctors). And had this case found against the doctors, I reckon there'd be HUGE ramifications for teaching hospitals across the country resulting in the detriment of resident/med student education.

However, I don't know if any of you guys got to read through all 26 pages of the brief that Chesterfield posted here, but it seems a little scary from the standpoint of the patient.

Patient expressly states, both orally and in writing, that no learners are to practice on her. When she's asleep, a learner is allowed to do the intubation. He screws up. She suffers a bad, bad outcome ... and she loses the lawsuit?!! Man, the anesthesia group and the hospital must have had some good lawyers.

Even though the court admits to all of the above, I can't quite understand how they still found for the defendants. I can understand how its not battery since battery implies there was intention to harm and in this case, there was no intention to harm. But there is definitely a medico-legal issue here that wasn't addressed properly.

Any JD's out there that might explain the reason the doctors won on this case? If the patient was my Mum, I'd be ready to shoot. 😡
 
When patients have an operation or procedure at a teaching hospital, isn't that stated in the forms that patients have to sign that medical students, residents, ect. may be involved in their care?

there is a reason why it's called informed consent, and that doesn't just mean you simply signed a form.

if that **** had happened to me personally, i know what i would've done...
 
The thing is, there was a consent form in which it stated that residents and students could be participating in her care.

However, the patient specifically crossed out that part of the consent and made it clear to the attending anesthesiologist that no one other than doctors were going to take care of her. The doctors (both the attending anesthesiologist and the attending surgeon) assured her no one else would touch her. So not only did she expressly refuse care by non-physicians in writing, she also did it orally, which also carries weight in court.

I'm sorry, but this is one damning case that really bothers me, because the justice system failed, since getting stuff even in writing means jack squat in a court of law. Now, I'm all for resident education. And whenever I or my family have gone to hospital, we've had no problems with students participating in our care, even in stressful situations (i.e. student nurse trying to put an NG down a 2 year old who found an open bottle of tylenol). However, this patient could've been any of our moms/sisters/daughters. She did everything appropriate to make her wishes known, and in spite of that was not protected by either her doctors or the justice system.

I say the docs better get themselves to the closest church/synagogue/mosque/temple, get down on their knees, and thank God they got away from this one.

All I can think is that the plaintiff's lawyer got cocky, thought this was going to be a slam-dunk and missed something, something that might've saved his case if he had prepared properly.
 
It sounds like maybe this was a criminal case, not a civil one, although I can't tell for sure.

If it was the criminal case, I'll bet the defendants won't be quite so lucky in the civil matter.
 
It sounds like maybe this was a criminal case, not a civil one, although I can't tell for sure.

If it was the criminal case, I'll bet the defendants won't be quite so lucky in the civil matter.

Tort reform and malpractice insurance only cover malpractice. Other wrongs - fraud, battery, etc, are not coverd. If the lawyer can make this a battery case in addition to malpractice, he has much more leverage over the defendants.
 
If the lawyer can make this a battery case in addition to malpractice, he has much more leverage over the defendants.


Nope, the lawyer can't. He tried. Court ruled in favor of doctors because patient was unable to prove intent to harm, which is what you need for a battery case to go through. In other words, the med student or the attendings would have had to have intent to harm in order to be liable for battery. Now, the doctors and the student were well meaning. They weren't attempting to harm the patient, hence battery is thrown out, and the case no longer has any leg to stand on.
 
hopefully the anesthesia group will be nice and cuddly and not charge her for the asa2-3E one lung, a line, c line anesthesia that she is gonna get nailed with when they do the throacotomy/esophageal repair....

anyhoots, how common is this to rupture the esophagus after a goose? I've heard of rogue stylettes doing but man, I'd imagine you gotta be pretty friggen rough or/and have your stylette distal to the murphy eye.

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I've seen an ER physician perforate the esophagus with the tip of a Miller blade. Gotta love that slam and crank action. 🙄

PMMD

hopefully the anesthesia group will be nice and cuddly and not charge her for the asa2-3E one lung, a line, c line anesthesia that she is gonna get nailed with when they do the throacotomy/esophageal repair....

anyhoots, how common is this to rupture the esophagus after a goose? I've heard of rogue stylettes doing but man, I'd imagine you gotta be pretty friggen rough or/and have your stylette distal to the murphy eye.

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Nope, the lawyer can't. He tried. Court ruled in favor of doctors because patient was unable to prove intent to harm, which is what you need for a battery case to go through. In other words, the med student or the attendings would have had to have intent to harm in order to be liable for battery. Now, the doctors and the student were well meaning. They weren't attempting to harm the patient, hence battery is thrown out, and the case no longer has any leg to stand on.

I thought the perpetrator was an EMT student. Read the court papers.

"Ruth was under sedation and unconscious when VanHoey, a student studying for
certification as an emergency medical technician (EMT) at St. Francis, entered the
surgical room. "
 
esophageal lacerations are not that uncommon - especially in those using the miller in stressful situations with minimal experience or those using a mac with minimal experience.... that is usually where most of the bleeding (and hypopharynx) comes from. it is rare to see complete lacerations...

when i had students do their 1st live intubation - i would usually show them how I like to open the mouth and place the blade, then look through the cords. Then I would mask the patient a bit (making sure they were deep & paralyzed), and then let them give it a try. As soon as I see them struggle, I stop them and guide them through it again - and then usually intubate myself if it looks like they are going to give the patient either 1) chipped tooth or 2) sore throat.

i had a few ER residents rotate through on their "airway elective" - which was pretty cush for them. they would show up for the 1st intubation of the day and then disappear... they also always came in with the attitude that they knew what they were doing, they were just there to pump up their numbers. I could spend 15 minutes explaining how to approach it the right way ,and the next thing they do is shove the tube in like they learned in the ER...

there is a lot to be said for finesse...

by the way, if i was the preceptor/anesthesiologist on record and a newbie student pulled out the blade w/ blood on it, I would make sure that when I tubed the patient that I got a good look at what got hurt and record it (was it the esophagus? was it a papilloma on the cords? etc...).... just like a surgeon would take a look in the belly to double check if the intern started a little bleeder... you never know.
 
I thought the perpetrator was an EMT student. Read the court papers.
Okay, fair enough, but it doesn't change anything. A student is a student is a student, whether medical, nursing, or EMT. And the patient expressly wanted no students, no learners, no nothing other than full fledged physicians working on her.
 
I thought the perpetrator was an EMT student. Read the court papers.

"Ruth was under sedation and unconscious when VanHoey, a student studying for
certification as an emergency medical technician (EMT) at St. Francis, entered the
surgical room. "
I would imagine that the student was a EMT-P student. EMT students are not taught to intubate in Indiana.
 
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