Why are DO schools mostly private?

[sieg5]

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As apposed to MD schools, DO schools are more often private ones, am I right? Why is this? This isn't consistent with the usual way of thinking seeing as how private universities are more difficult to get into than public universities, why is med school different, or is it?

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

I think the majority of medical schools are privatized, though the ratio is probably larger for DO schools. But anyway, the reason why the majority of DO schools are private is explained through their history, recent trends, and aims. But anyway, the notion that privates are harder to get into than publics isn't a true one, save for the top 10-15 schools ( JHU, WashU, Harvard, and including a public UCLA) most schools are about equally competitive and at times it's probably more likely that a public MD school might be more competitive than a Private MD school since many are lower tier as compared to state schools being generally mid tier and for in-state students incredibly cheaper.

 

[bajastapler]

Public schools usually have an obligation to reserve X number of seats to in-state applicants. Private schools don't share that obligation. Private schools can pick who they think best fits their mission statement, regardless of state residency.

And just b/c us world news puts out an annual ranking of "top tier" med schools doesn't make it true.

 

[user3]

When a public university has the funding to start a medical school, 99 times / 100 they will choose an MD school.

DO schools are usually private and tuition driven. Most public universities do not want to adopt a DO program when they can have an MD one that will net them more research money and recognition (see what is happening at UNTHSC).

 

[NeuroLAX]

I think the majority of medical schools are privatized, though the ratio is probably larger for DO schools. But anyway, the reason why the majority of DO schools are private is explained through their history, recent trends, and aims. But anyway, the notion that privates are harder to get into than publics isn't a true one, save for the top 10-15 schools ( JHU, WashU, Harvard, and including a public UCLA) most schools are about equally competitive and at times it's probably more likely that a public MD school might be more competitive than a Private MD school since many are lower tier as compared to state schools being generally mid tier and for in-state students incredibly cheaper.

Most medical schools in the U.S. (MD + DO) are not private. The vast majority of DO schools are private.

 

[NurWollen]

I think the majority of medical schools are privatized, though the ratio is probably larger for DO schools. But anyway, the reason why the majority of DO schools are private is explained through their history, recent trends, and aims. But anyway, the notion that privates are harder to get into than publics isn't a true one, save for the top 10-15 schools ( JHU, WashU, Harvard, and including a public UCLA) most schools are about equally competitive and at times it's probably more likely that a public MD school might be more competitive than a Private MD school since many are lower tier as compared to state schools being generally mid tier and for in-state students incredibly cheaper.

Good point about private school vs. public school competitive. If you are a resident of a small state with a medical school that doesn't produce a lot of applicants, then your state school will likely be less competitive. If you are from a state that does produce a lot of applicants, the. Your private schools are a better option. California, Utah and Washington come to mind as schools that have a lot of students in private schools (esp. DO schools) because there aren't enough state-school seats for their applicants. Puerto Rico is an example of the opposite (though their public school is still more competitive than their private schools.)

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

Most medical schools in the U.S. (MD + DO) are not private. The vast majority of DO schools are private.

Er.. you're free to do a little bit of counting there bud. 60-70% of MD programs are private non-state schools.

 

[NeuroLAX]

Er.. you're free to do a little bit of counting there bud. 60-70% of MD programs are private non-state schools.

Sources?

Here's something from the AAMC based on 2011-2012:

https://services.aamc.org/tsfreports/report.cfm?select_control=PRI&year_of_study=2012

Did they not include some?

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

Sources?

Here's something from the AAMC based on 2011-2012:

https://services.aamc.org/tsfreports/report.cfm?select_control=PRI&year_of_study=2012

Did they not include some?

I stand corrected. I for some reason assumed schools of Cincinati, Louisvile, EVMS were Private or Pseudo-Private.

 

[MedPR]

I stand corrected. I for some reason assumed schools of Cincinati, Louisvile, EVMS were Private or Pseudo-Private.

I too was surprised that Cincinnati was public. Didn't know until they told me at the interview day.

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[NurWollen]

Sources?

Here's something from the AAMC based on 2011-2012:

https://services.aamc.org/tsfreports/report.cfm?select_control=PRI&year_of_study=2012

Did they not include some?

Interesting... so most private MD schools are just as expensive as most private DO schools. It's interesting that people are always complaining about the financial cost of attending a DO school.

Also interesting is Baylor's tuition. Am I right that despite being a private school Baylor receives tuition subsidies from the Texas state government? Their in-state tuition is even lower than at Texas' public schools. Man, can you imagine going to med school for 6k/year?

 

[NeuroLAX]

Interesting... so most private MD schools are just as expensive as most private DO schools. It's interesting that people are always complaining about the financial cost of attending a DO school.

Also interesting is Baylor's tuition. Am I right that despite being a private school Baylor receives tuition subsidies from the Texas state government? Their in-state tuition is even lower than at Texas' public schools. Man, can you imagine going to med school for 6k/year?

Hah, that would be incredible! That's why I am thinking about applying for a fellowship year at Nova. You get a stipend during the fellowship year (after M2) and your 3rd and 4th year clinical rotations are paid for. The only debt you have is from years 1 and 2.

 

[abolt18]

Hah, that would be incredible! That's why I am thinking about applying for a fellowship year at Nova. You get a stipend during the fellowship year (after M2) and your 3rd and 4th year clinical rotations are paid for. The only debt you have is from years 1 and 2.

Before I had any other acceptances, I completely planned on doing this at Nova! Sadly KCOM doesn't have as awesome of a compensation for their fellowships.

And Nurwollen, I'd crap my pants daily for a month if I could only pay 6K a year for med school tuition! Multiply that by 7 for KCOM and by 9 for you.

 

[kgpremed11]

Thank god most of them are private! I live in a state that until very recently, had 1 med school that monopolized the entire state!😡 And you had to "know" someone to get in😡. Pretty much only rich kids and those who had parents as doctors could get in. Guy I know had 2.7 and 19 and got in ( both of his parents doctors at the school). I had 3.5 and 27 and not even an interview😕. URM status was not a factor.

 

[coolingglasses]

Thank god most of them are private! I live in a state that until very recently, had 1 med school that monopolized the entire state!😡 And you had to "know" someone to get in😡. Pretty much only rich kids and those who had parents as doctors could get in. Guy I know had 2.7 and 19 and got in ( both of his parents doctors at the school). I had 3.5 and 27 and not even an interview😕. URM status was not a factor.

the fck?

 

[MedPR]

Thank god most of them are private! I live in a state that until very recently, had 1 med school that monopolized the entire state!😡 And you had to "know" someone to get in😡. Pretty much only rich kids and those who had parents as doctors could get in. Guy I know had 2.7 and 19 and got in ( both of his parents doctors at the school). I had 3.5 and 27 and not even an interview😕. URM status was not a factor.

3.5/27 isn't good enough for an auto interview man.

 

[Pqrs]

I refuse to believe that even both parents on faculty could help a 2.7/19...

 

[Skeeks]

3.5/27 isn't good enough for an auto interview man.

I think his point was the disparity between himself and the 2.7 19 MCAT guy, not that he absolutely deserved an interview.

 

[Skeeks]

and kgpremed, I totally feel your pain. My in-state school is exactly the same way. Monopoly on the state, and you have to know someone to get in. I am glad there are private schools as well. Utah needs another med school badly to create some competition for med students and bring down the unseamly difficulty to get into the U of U

 

[KnuxNole]

I refuse to believe that even both parents on faculty could help a 2.7/19...

Never underestimate the power of strong connections 😱

 

[Pqrs]

Never underestimate the power of strong connections 😱

I dunno, there's a difference between getting your foot in the door (auto interview) and getting charity. Maybe his parents donated a new wing to the school?

 

[MedPR]

I think his point was the disparity between himself and the 2.7 19 MCAT guy, not that he absolutely deserved an interview.

It's about who you know. Welcome to America

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[abolt18]

More like welcome to life on earth...

 

[IslandStyle808]

When a public university has the funding to start a medical school, 99 times / 100 they will choose an MD school.

DO schools are usually private and tuition driven. Most public universities do not want to adopt a DO program when they can have an MD one that will net them more research money and recognition (see what is happening at UNTHSC).

Good point!

 

[Skeeks]

It's about who you know. Welcome to America

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More like welcome to life on earth...

Exactly

 

[MedPR]

Exactly

I haven't lived abroad enough to make such an assessment.

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[Drrrrrr. Celty]

It's about who you blow. Welcome to America

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Fix'd for those who failed to make good connections with those in high places.

 

[deleted357625]

as apposed to md schools, do schools are more often private ones, am i right? Why is this? This isn't consistent with the usual way of thinking seeing as how private universities are more difficult to get into than public universities, why is med school different, or is it?

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[MedPR]

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Combined with the humongous DO deposits (most of them), I'd say this is the reason.