IDK how true it is, but I heard from another ADCOM that while being URM by itself won't automatically give you an admission boost anymore, a strong service narrative toward their underserved community will still be heavily considered.
DEI has been broken from the start. Like you said, the biggest predictor of high stats is money. Anyone can hit a 515+ on the MCAT if they’ve got endless tutoring, don’t have to work to survive, and can spend their time shadowing and doing research instead of juggling jobs or family responsibilities.
What do we need to score a 528? Honestly, Kaplan books which you can get from eBay for $25. Khan academy 300 page document which is free. Khan academy passages (free), Jack Westin passages , practice tests and books (free), AAMC bundle $300 ( free for low income). Uworld question pack ($200), plenty of very high quality free YouTube channels like yousuf hasan, science simplified, AK lectures etc. Princeton review, Kaplan, exam Kracker, blueprint, Altius etc offering free practice tests . So, you don’t have to spend more than $500. An iPhone costs over $1000. Please post a thread on r/mcat and request people to post their family income who scored 520+. If you have to work to support yourself, work for 6 months, stay with your parents for 6 months and prepare for MCAT.
What are your stats and have you gone to admit.org & calculated your admit score?
This is an incredibly tone deaf take and also just flat-out wrong. A quick internet search shows that multiple MCAT tutors and courses cost more than 2000. Saying people can just move back in with their parents or work for 6 months to study assumes everyone has that kind of support, which is classist as hell.
Very well said, its like that dude didn't even take the MCAT. The p/s section was literally filled with this topic
I second that
Nigerian Americans are performing better than Whites and even Asian Americans, in every aspect of life. Just saying.
Nigerian Americans are not proof that systemic racism doesn’t exist. They’re proof that when people immigrate here with college degrees, speak English, and are often selected through high-skill visa programs, they do well. That doesn’t erase the impact of generational poverty, redlining, or centuries of institutional racism faced by Black Americans descended from slavery.
I can share some personal ancedote as data here
Thank you for supporting my point. You are accepting that as long as you have a college degree and speak English , you can do well in America. Which proves that there is no systemic racism that is holding back anyone but lack of education is. There is no conspiracy here. Isn’t it? Now, who or what is stopping any Americans from going to school or college? No one and nothing. It is up to the individuals to pursue their educational dreams. You can’t blame anyone but yourself.
The circumstances you have described here is not exclusive to any groups. Low income people or disadvantaged people are in every racial group. You can’t look at someone’s skin color and assume and argue that they are advantaged or disadvantaged . By sheer numbers, there are more low income/ disadvantaged Whites than any other groups. More number of better qualified and yet low income and disadvantaged white and Asian American students turned away as compared to any other groups.
1. Yes it's true that people of any race can face disadvantages (I'm an ORM myself), but the unfortunate reality is that URM on average face disproportionally more barriers than other groups. Many of those communities have been pushed into corners after many generation of systemic inequality and it would require a lot more resilience to pull out off, than new immigrants groups. We come to this country leaving everything behind with the sole purpose of achieving academic success, so the foundation is already there. It's something you only understand when you actually go into those communities, which is why I believe volunteering service in underserved communities is so valuable for pre-meds.
Dude are you missing the fact that there are not enough black or hispanic doctors in the united states? There has been numerous research done that shows that patients are more comfortable seeing doctors that look like them or from the same background as them. Also your stat is wrong blacks and hispanics did not have the advantage to med school admissions as you claim. If you check the stats majority of blacks and hispanics were being admitted to hbcu's. Hbcu's are trying to address the low physicians from these backgrounds so that is why their stats aren't as high as regular md schools. When you look at the aamc data blacks and hispanics get into med school with lower stats but you forget the fact that it is skewed because most of them go to hbcu schools. They are not taking your seats at regular md schools so stop with the nonsense, even if they were only about 15 blacks and hispanics attend regular md schools when there are usually 100s of whites and asians.
No, I didn’t. I explained why Nigerian Americans tend to succeed: they’re highly educated immigrants, often English-speaking, and selected through high-skill visa programs. That’s not proof that racism doesn’t exist—it’s proof that immigration filters for privilege, while systemic racism in America punishes people born here under historic and ongoing oppression. You're confusing selective immigration success with structural equality. They’re not the same.
Lack of education is a result of systemic racism. Who underfunds public schools in historically Black neighborhoods? Who set up school district lines to reinforce racial segregation? Who allowed redlining to gut wealth-building for entire communities? You’re pointing at a symptom and ignoring the cause. If you think opportunity is purely about choice, you’re either ignoring or erasing every historical factor that’s made “equal access” a myth—whether that’s legacy admissions, test prep disparities, housing discrimination, or the wealth gap that continues to grow.
This is why my original argument about DEI was all about. It needs to factor more than race, gender, or sexuality. It needs to take an objective look at privilege that is afforded due to SES.
Cool. Your identity doesn’t shield you from perpetuating bad arguments. Internalized bias and structural ignorance are not limited by race.
You are honestly a jerk. Racism still exists, if you don't experience what we go through please stfu. You're over here talking about systemic racism doesn't exist.. Do you know how long it took me to find a physician to shadow? I kept getting declined by numerous clinics to shadow just because of my skin color. I literally called a clinic to ask to shadow, they asked me to come in person. I showed up then they told me that the doctor isn't allowing anyone to shadow. My white friend the next day went to that same clinic and they told her that she could shadow the physician.
You can’t make up for a lifetime of educational disparity with a $2,000 prep course. That’s not how it works.
