Why choose Anesthesiology

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I am currently in school working towards a BSN. My plan was to get my masters and be a CRNA. I have been looking a lot in to anesthesiology which is why I decided to go for the CRNA, mostly because I know it would probably be quicker than becoming a doctor. I am not 18 anymore and needed a quicker route. Although, now the more I think of it I feel like "why not go all the way?" The medical field has always facinated me and I have wanted to be a doctor ever since I can remember. Unfortunately I took a different path after high school and joined the military instead. Now I am out and going to school full time. I know it is a stressful field but what part of the medical field is not? If any of you can put yourselves in my shoes, what would you decide? I am not old either but I do have kids and the whole shabang, but I am planning to go at it nonstop and give it my all. Any advice?
 
Do you want to be a doctor or a nurse? The path is hugely different, and the end product is hugely different. If all you want is a short path to a good paycheck, take the nursing route.
 
We get more than our fair share of nurse and CRNA trolls here, so don't take the knee-jerk skepticism personally.

A few thoughts re: your question.

1) The risk/benefit and time cost analysis you're doing is totally rational.

2) So-called "non-traditional" med students are not uncommon. Lots of people don't take the usual path of high school --> college --> med school, instead spending some time in other careers or as full-time parents first. SDN has a non-traditional med student forum you should check out if you haven't already.

3) Anesthesiology is the practice of medicine. There's room for AAs and CRNAs, ideally in supervised/directed roles. But if you want to practice medicine, you should go to medical school. If you do go to medical school, you may find another specialty interests you more than anesthesia. Most med students don't wind up in the field they expected when they started school. Being a doctor is nothing like being a nurse, even though we work in the same buildings and take care of the same patients. The education, training, mindset, and culture are worlds apart. If you want to be a doctor, be a doctor, but for the love of god don't be one of those nurses who thinks a couple extra classes and online degrees can close the gap.

4) For every militant CRNA who thinks he can handle all cases all alone all the time, there are many who have no desire to go there. The changing healthcare environment may end up pushing a lot of midlevels (CRNA and non-CRNA alike) into more and more autonomous positions. The promised lands of 7-3 PM no/minimal call, low risk, silly high pay, semi-autonomous* CRNA gig are not going to last. It takes a special kind of hubris to really want a job as a truly independent CRNA. The irony is that many sane CRNAs are going to find themselves thrust into jobs like that in the future ... and for less pay than they get now.

5) Crappy strip-mall CRNA mills are popping up all over and churning out hordes of marginal graduates. The AANA for all its political skill didn't learn a thing from the lawyers, and you as a latecomer will suffer the worst of that miscalculation.



* (but not really - even most "independent" CRNAs still have an anesthesiologist around to intervene if things go sideways or triage the sick patients away from them in the first place)
 
Thanks for the information. I really appreciate it. I've got a long and tough road ahead of me but I am excited and eager to learn. 🙂
 
I am currently in school working towards a BSN. My plan was to get my masters and be a CRNA. I have been looking a lot in to anesthesiology which is why I decided to go for the CRNA, mostly because I know it would probably be quicker than becoming a doctor. I am not 18 anymore and needed a quicker route. Although, now the more I think of it I feel like "why not go all the way?" The medical field has always facinated me and I have wanted to be a doctor ever since I can remember. Unfortunately I took a different path after high school and joined the military instead. Now I am out and going to school full time. I know it is a stressful field but what part of the medical field is not? If any of you can put yourselves in my shoes, what would you decide? I am not old either but I do have kids and the whole shabang, but I am planning to go at it nonstop and give it my all. Any advice?

Check out the nontraditional forum.. there are plenty of RNs -> med school experiences there (myself included). It is a personal decision that each person has to make. You have such a long road still that you don't have to decide right away. Work a couple of years first, gain some experience in critical care, then decide.
 
I am an RN, and honestly I get frustrated with such posts. Not because you are necessarily insincere; but because the research was not put forth into learning the strong differences between medicine and nursing--beside what one thinks is obvious.

Are you a practicing RN completing a BSN? Have you worked for more than a few years in acute or critical care nursing? (It's not that other forms of nursing don't count; it's just that the meat and potatoes of what goes on in healthcare is best seen when working in those areas.)

The frustration is in a lack of insight re: physician versus nursing-- knowing the distinct differences--again, beyond the obvious. But how can you even begin to compare and constrast if you are not even, as yet, a practicing RN?

Educate yourself in the strong differences and decide which fits you best. If you are not an experienced RN, get some experience--preferably in acute or critical care and make it full-time. That's hard to do while going back to school and trying to make the nice A grade in the prereqs.

It also frustrates me to hear people say "They have always wanted to be a doctor." (This is not a personal affront on you. It's just my own gut reaction when I hear it or read it. I usually just brush over it, but seems like I have heard it too much lately.) Really? A vast majority of kids think it's great to be a doctor. This is probably also true for the vast majority of adults. But until you get more into the nitty gritty, below the surface stuff, you won't really have a solid clue if this is what is right for you or even if you are geared or talented toward medicine--and this goes for nursing as well.

Finally, there IS NO quick route to medicine and in medicine. At least I haven't seen one in the US. It's all one huge and incredibly long and demanding road. So if you don't truly enjoy medicine--what it is--at least enough to tolerate the other massive amounts of garbage thrown your way--it's a wasteful killer of 10+ years--and the + extends to the rest of your life, b/c unless you are wealthy, you won't be able to afford walking out on it after putting in such a huge investment of time, money, and energy. It's like people used to say about marriage--it's not something you should enter into lightly.
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I think one of the best things a pre-med can do, although some would disagree with me, is to read the threads of those that jumped through all the many hoops, finally got accepted to med school, got through residency or are going through it, and realized it is totally not for them. Those threads give a sense of reality beyond what is idealized.

Also, nursing can be idealized. I have met plenty of nurses that went into nursing with fantasy-land thoughts and pink, rosy glasses, only to feel frustrated b/c it was not for them.

The difference, however, with nursing is that it is MUCH easier to walk away from it as compared with medicine. I say this, and for the most part, I have genuinely loved much of my work as a critical care nurse. Yes, if you have $60,000-$75,000 in debt from your college nursing program and can't find a job or don't want to work in nursing, that may suck, but not as badly as $200,000+ debt plus many years loss of a fair income you would have made through the pre-med, MS, residency, and early-establishment years in medicine.

The many costs of medicine are incredibly high, and they must be seriously considered before the dive.
 
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I am an RN, and honestly I get frustrated with such posts. Not because you are necessarily insincere; but because the research was not put forth into learning the strong differences between medicine and nursing--beside what one thinks is obvious.

Are you a practicing RN completing a BSN? Have you worked for more than a few years in acute or critical care nursing? (It's not that other forms of nursing don't count; it's just that the meat and potatoes of what goes on in healthcare is best seen when working in those areas.)

The frustration is in a lack of insight re: physician versus nursing-- knowing the distinct differences--again, beyond the obvious. But how can you even begin to compare and constrast if you are not even, as yet, a practicing RN?

Educate yourself in the strong differences and decide which fits you best. If you are not an experienced RN, get some experience--preferably in acute or critical care and make it full-time. That's hard to do while going back to school and trying to make the nice A grade in the prereqs.

It also frustrates me to hear people say "They have always wanted to be a doctor." (This is not a personal affront on you. It's just my own gut reaction when I hear it or read it. I usually just brush over it, but seems like I have heard it too much lately.) Really? A vast majority of kids think it's great to be a doctor. This is probably also true for the vast majority of adults. But until you get more into the nitty gritty, below the surface stuff, you won't really have a solid clue if this is what is right for you or even if you are geared or talented toward medicine--and this goes for nursing as well.

Finally, there IS NO quick route to medicine and in medicine. At least I haven't seen one in the US. It's all one huge and incredibly long and demanding road. So if you don't truly enjoy medicine--what it is--at least enough to tolerate the other massive amounts of garbage thrown your way--it's a wasteful killer of 10+ years--and the + extends to the rest of your life, b/c unless you are wealthy, you won't be able to afford walking out on it after putting in such a huge investment of time, money, and energy. It's like people used to say about marriage--it's not something you should enter into lightly.
i
I think one of the best things a pre-med can do, although some would disagree with me, is to read the threads of those that jumped through all the many hoops, finally got accepted to med school, got through residency or are going through it, and realized it is totally not for them. Those threads give a sense of reality beyond what is idealized.

Also, nursing can be idealized. I have met plenty of nurses that went into nursing with fantasy-land thoughts and pink, rosy glasses, only to feel frustrated b/c it was not for them.

The difference, however, with nursing is that it is MUCH easier to walk away from it as compared with medicine. I say this, and for the most part, I have genuinely loved much of my work as a critical care nurse. Yes, if you have $60,000-$75,000 in debt from your college nursing program and can't find a job or don't want to work in nursing, that may suck, but not as badly as $200,000+ debt plus many years loss of a fair income you would have made through the pre-med, MS, residency, and early-establishment years in medicine.

The many costs of medicine are incredibly high, and they must be seriously considered before the dive.

This.

From a guy who started out as a nurse, then a CRNA for 12yrs, then Medical School and Residency.
 
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