Why didn't AAPMR help refute BMJ Meta-Analysis?

[drusso]

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https://www.ipsismed.org/news/696314/BMJ-Guideline-Response.htm

International Pain and Spine Intervention Society
American Academy of Pain Medicine
American College of Radiology
American Society of Neuroradiology
American Society of Pain and Neuroscience
American Society of Regional Anesthesia and Pain Medicine
American Society of Spine Radiology
ANOA (Arbeitsgemeinschaft der Nicht Operativen Orthopädischen)
Association of Pain Program Directors
Belgian Pain Society
Boston Pain Society
Dutch Society of Musculoskeletal Medicine
Eastern Pain Association
Flemish Anaesthesiology Association for Pain Management
GIMDO (Gruppo Italiano Multidisciplinare Dolore Orofacciale)
IGOST (Interdisziplinare Gesellschaft für Orthopädische/Unfallchirurgische und Allgemeine
Schmerztherapie
Indian Society for Study of Pain
ISAL Foundation - Institute for Pain Research
Italian Society of Pain Clinicians
Korean Pain Societv
Latin American Pain Society
North American Neuromodulation Society
North American Spine Society
Oregon Society of Interventional Pain Physicians
PA!N, Dutch Chapter of the IASP
Pacific Spine and Pain Society (PSPS)
Pain Section of the Dutch Society of Anesthesiology
SIAARTI (Società Italiana di Anestesia Analgesia Rianimazione e Terapia Intensiva)
Sierra Spine Society
Society of Interventional Radiology
Spanish Pain Society
Turkish Society of Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation Specialists
World Academy of Pain Medicine United
Word nstitute of Pain

 

[runfastnow]

Because they're too worried about long-COVID right now.

 

[lobelsteve]

I was on membership all those years ago. When we could get nothing done way back when, I left for ISIS.

 

[AlvinKamara]

I was on membership all those years ago. When we could get nothing done way back when, I left for ISIS.

Did a double take there on your comment lol

 

[hyperalgesia]

Did a double take there on your comment lol

Don't worry, he's reformed...

 

[MitchLevi]

AAPMR is too busy writing CME questions about diversity, equity and inclusion to bother itself with the machinations of insurance companies and the real world.

 

[oreosandsake]

https://www.ipsismed.org/news/696314/BMJ-Guideline-Response.htm

International Pain and Spine Intervention Society
American Academy of Pain Medicine
American College of Radiology
American Society of Neuroradiology
American Society of Pain and Neuroscience
American Society of Regional Anesthesia and Pain Medicine
American Society of Spine Radiology
ANOA (Arbeitsgemeinschaft der Nicht Operativen Orthopädischen)
Association of Pain Program Directors
Belgian Pain Society
Boston Pain Society
Dutch Society of Musculoskeletal Medicine
Eastern Pain Association
Flemish Anaesthesiology Association for Pain Management
GIMDO (Gruppo Italiano Multidisciplinare Dolore Orofacciale)
IGOST (Interdisziplinare Gesellschaft für Orthopädische/Unfallchirurgische und Allgemeine
Schmerztherapie
Indian Society for Study of Pain
ISAL Foundation - Institute for Pain Research
Italian Society of Pain Clinicians
Korean Pain Societv
Latin American Pain Society
North American Neuromodulation Society
North American Spine Society
Oregon Society of Interventional Pain Physicians
PA!N, Dutch Chapter of the IASP
Pacific Spine and Pain Society (PSPS)
Pain Section of the Dutch Society of Anesthesiology
SIAARTI (Società Italiana di Anestesia Analgesia Rianimazione e Terapia Intensiva)
Sierra Spine Society
Society of Interventional Radiology
Spanish Pain Society
Turkish Society of Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation Specialists
World Academy of Pain Medicine United
Word nstitute of Pain

where is the list of supporting organizations?

 

[drusso]

where is the list of supporting organizations?

 

[Status Sciaticus]

I was on membership all those years ago. When we could get nothing done way back when, I left for ISIS.

Which orgs would you say are worthwhile to join? Besides SIS and ASIPP?

 

[lobelsteve]

Which orgs would you say are worthwhile to join? Besides SIS and ASIPP?

Ipsis and nass

 

[drusso]

Which orgs would you say are worthwhile to join? Besides SIS and ASIPP?

ASPN

 

[Status Sciaticus]

ASPN

but the pointy shoes hurt my feet though.

 

[epidural man]

I don't deal with insurance -

but aren't reviews like this a good thing for a long view perspective?

IF what we do actually does work - AND - insurance doesn't pay for it...then patients will pay cash. Isn't that a great scenario?

Plastic surgeons do very very well.

 

[SgtThunderfistMD]

I don't deal with insurance -

but aren't reviews like this a good thing for a long view perspective?

IF what we do actually does work - AND - insurance doesn't pay for it...then patients will pay cash. Isn't that a great scenario?

Plastic surgeons do very very well.

Like 50% of my interventions overall work (epidural > 3 months, RFA > 9 months, etc). The patients in the 50% that didn't work already show up frustrated most of the time.

Now imagine if they paid 1-5K for each of those interventions.

Plastic surgeons can be reasonably certain that they meet expectations >90% of the time--we can't.

 

[cowboydoc]

Like 50% of my interventions overall work (epidural > 3 months, RFA > 9 months, etc). The patients in the 50% that didn't work already show up frustrated most of the time.

Now imagine if they paid 1-5K for each of those interventions.

Plastic surgeons can be reasonably certain that they meet expectations >90% of the time--we can't.

Their patients show up frustrated and ugly, and their success rate of changing that is nowhere near 90%

 

[clubdeac]

I don't deal with insurance -

but aren't reviews like this a good thing for a long view perspective?

IF what we do actually does work - AND - insurance doesn't pay for it...then patients will pay cash. Isn't that a great scenario?

Plastic surgeons do very very well.

Their patient population is much different than ours. Mostly affluent suburban house wives with plenty of money to burn. We otoh see a lot of Medicare and Medicaid on limited income without extra money to burn. I don’t think it’d work out the same