Why do people say FL schools aren't OOS friendly??

[makingthatmcatpur]

According to AAMC "US Medical School Applications and Matriculants by School, State of Legal Residence, and Sex," Florida schools seem VERY OOS friendly. For example, here are the stats for some of the FL schools matriculants:

FIU-Wertheim 18.5% OOS
Florida Atlantic Schimdt 28.1% OOS
Miami Miller 56.8% OOS
UCF 29.2% OOS
USF Morsani 30.6% OOS

These percentages for OOS matriculants seems high to me and makes me think these schools are OOS friendly, but why do SO MANY people say otherwise and claim that these FL schools have a strong in-state bias and that it's EXTREMELY difficult to get accepted as an OOS applicant?

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[laughingfrog]

well first off Miller doesnt have state preference and second, when do poeple say Fl is OOS UNfriendly, i havent heard that

 

[takeurmeds02]

I have no idea cus I got rejected from all of my FL state schools....

 

[Mansamusa]

USF has a high percentage because of the SELECT program, which doesn't have IS funding. Miami isn't public. You also forgot UF and FSU.

And they aren't ~unfriendly~ they just don't interview too many out of state students and a lot of the people they do interview either have ties or have a specific skillset the schools wants for the area.

I interviewed at 3 of those schools, and at the FIU interview, my interviewer challenged me on why I would want to be in Miami. "Do you have family here? If you want to work with a multilingual population why don't you stay in NYC? What reason do you have to stay down in South Florida?" So even though they have OOS, they were looking for people who will want to stay in the area- most of the OOS at my interview grew up in Miami and then moved out of state

 

[zhonghang]

UF and FSU are not OOS friendly. Their OOS matriculant percentages are very low at 11.9% and 2.5% respectively. But I think the other schools you listed in FL are actually very OOS friendly, especially according to those percentages you stated above.

 

[ChrisMack390]

You selectively listed the ones with the highest OOS %. I hope you don't do actual research that way....

I would consider 18% pretty low (my cutoff for OOS schools was ~30%). The others seem to be relatively OOS friendly (and UMiami openly states no IS preference, so any skew there is more likely due to applicant interest).

 

[GrapesofRath]

Some of these schools(ie Miami as an example) use their OOS class to jack up their median stats despite whatever official line they give about "IS vs OOS" bias

Many of these schools will target OOS people with ties to the region.

A significant number of OOS matriculants at USF come through special programs such as their BS/MD, SMP and MD select program with Lehigh

FAU has a really small class size.

All in all, Miami is good if you have the right stats. I think USF is largely fine often also. The others though Id probably pass on OOS unless there is a specific circumstance unique to you.

 

[ChrisMack390]

Miami has a snarky comment on their website about how the Florida government stopped giving them funding so they no longer show preference for their residents.

 

[osckey]

Miami has a snarky comment on their website about how the Florida government stopped giving them funding so they no longer show preference for their residents.

UM is pissed at a lot of people right now and vice versa (still a great school though). At any rate, UM is a private institution. They aren't a public Florida school.

 

[zhonghang]

I interviewed at 3 of those schools, and at the FIU interview, my interviewer challenged me on why I would want to be in Miami. "Do you have family here? If you want to work with a multilingual population why don't you stay in NYC? What reason do you have to stay down in South Florida?" So even though they have OOS, they were looking for people who will want to stay in the area- most of the OOS at my interview grew up in Miami and then moved out of state

That's very interesting. I've heard of similar situations. Do you feel like your answers to those questions had a direct impact on your acceptance and/or rejection at those 3 schools?

 

[Goro]

You can't simply look at matriculants. Take a look at the number of apps from OOS, vs the # of interviews for OOS and then you'll see that the # of OOS matriculants are not as impressive as you think.

I suspect that most of the OOS people have significant FL ties.

This is why I tell people to pay VERY careful attention to the Acceptance Information pages of MSAR.

According to AAMC "US Medical School Applications and Matriculants by School, State of Legal Residence, and Sex," Florida schools seem VERY OOS friendly. For example, here are the stats for some of the FL schools matriculants:

FIU-Wertheim 18.5% OOS
Florida Atlantic Schimdt 28.1% OOS
Miami Miller 56.8% OOS
UCF 29.2% OOS
USF Morsani 30.6% OOS

These percentages for OOS matriculants seems high to me and makes me think these schools are OOS friendly, but why do SO MANY people say otherwise and claim that these FL schools have a strong in-state bias and that it's EXTREMELY difficult to get accepted as an OOS applicant?