Why do school reject people with above average stats?

[PeleHonuaMea]

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Guess who's going to go unmatched this year, or eventually get kicked out of a residency program?

... or not able to retain a job in a respectable institution 🤔 (cause you know, radiologists still have to play by the same office etiquette and decorum as the rest of our physicians and staff... but what the heck do I know? )

We shall see though. Only time will tell if such people sink or swim in a professional environment... .

Maybe he will surprise us all and change his tune in the next 1-3 years? *at least I hope so for his sake*

 

[deleted787552]

ah yess other countries where people bribe exam officials to get better scores on standardized tests.

I mean that can happen here too if someone was dedicated enough

 

[deleted787552]

4.0 automatons are a dime-a-dozen. There's an ocean of academic clones out there. How do we distinguish them?
What hyperacheivers fail to understand is that the road traveled is meritorious in and of itself.

How do you distinguish them? Maybe if the admissions process was more transparent across the board, things like this wouldn’t be an issue. The fact that many deans basically do a hand wavy motion on interivew day and say we’ll hear back in x weeks doesn’t exactly make us feel like there’s nothing shady going on behind the scenes

 

[Goro]

How do you distinguish them? Maybe if the admissions process was more transparent across the board, things like this wouldn’t be an issue. The fact that many deans basically do a hand wavy motion on interview day and say we’ll hear back in x weeks doesn’t exactly make us feel like there’s nothing shady going on behind the scenes

Med school admissions websites tell you exactly what the schools want. That how we distinguish amongst all the clones. And the process is only shady if you feel that you are entitled to a seat in med school simply because you have good stats. You don't. A career in Medicine is a privilege, not a reward for being a good student or getting a good grades.

 

[skeptastic]

They way the children of Doctors used to be given preferential treatment was by auto-admit, no question, part of the Hippocratic oath. Now the way the children of Rich people are given preference is more insidious, they end up going to better schools, have access to tutors from day one in middle school, Dont have to work dead end jobs for sustenance, and can get involved in ec's in a more meaningful manner and have easier time getting access to clinical shadowing etc. However, this just means they are better candidates at the end of the day, not that they got in because they are rich. They got in because they have better scores, better applications. Life is not fair, and society is not fair. There have been attempts to help adcoms by collecting ses status and hardship essays. But coming from a poor background I didnt want to get into medical school because someone took pity on me or gave me a chance because I was poor, i wanted to get into medical school based on my abilities.

I love this post.

 

[skeptastic]

Med school admissions websites tell you exactly what the schools want. That how we distinguish amongst all the clones. And the process is only shady if you feel that you are entitled to a seat in med school simply because you have good stats. You don't. A career in Medicine is a privilege, not a reward for being a good student or getting a good grades.

This is sticky-worthy.

 

[AnatomyGrey12]

Maybe if the admissions process was more transparent across the board, things like this wouldn’t be an issue. The fact that many deans basically do a hand wavy motion on interivew day and say we’ll hear back in x weeks doesn’t exactly make us feel like there’s nothing shady going on behind the scenes

The process is actually very transparent. The requirements for entry and stats of incoming classes are plastered on just about every medical school website. The MSAR tells you exactly the breakdown of the applications of acceptees to individual schools. There are more people that fit the schools profile applying than they can accept or even interview, hence why people need to apply broadly.

Also returning to our discussion earlier, the amount the true legacy interviewees or acceptees is extremely rare. Like so rare it has literally no impact on the application pool.

 

[RNthenDoc]

An important point that I was told by an ortho residency PD is that he gets stacks of applications with first-author pubs, honors, and astronomical boards scores.

He told me that that is a baseline, and that his advice was to have something UNIQUE.

In 6 interviews nobody asked me about my years of experience crackin’ ribs or pushing propofol. They ALL asked me about a single interesting EC that I had that was ONE WEEKEND, and related to TV, not medicine or science or anything relevant at all.

 

[Apothecary Aquinas]

If anyone else is thinking about going back to read the entirety of this thread from the beginning, don't... I unfortunately did and I'll summarize it for you here...

 

[skeptastic]

If anyone else is thinking about going back to read the entirety of this thread from the beginning, don't... I unfortunately did and I'll summarize it for you here...

Hahaha!!!

 

[MyOdyssey]

If medical schools didn't reject applicants with above average stats, the schools' matriculant stats would increase and your stats might no longer be above average.

 

[RNtoMD87]

An important point that I was told by an ortho residency PD is that he gets stacks of applications with first-author pubs, honors, and astronomical boards scores.

He told me that that is a baseline, and that his advice was to have something UNIQUE.

In 6 interviews nobody asked me about my years of experience crackin’ ribs or pushing propofol. They ALL asked me about a single interesting EC that I had that was ONE WEEKEND, and related to TV, not medicine or science or anything relevant at all.

I wish I had more "politically correct" hobbies. People coach sports, or do hobby related stuff that is "acceptable" and I'm all over here hosting Ak building classes or competing in 3-gun. Ah good old social stigma

 

[Lucca]

If medical schools didn't reject applicants with above average stats, the schools' matriculant stats would increase and your stats might no longer be above average.

200 iq take