Why Does Everybody Hate Nyu?????

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Hey YALL,

bm3 here, what do people have against NYU? I see no support of NYU from SDN. I know it's expensive as all HELL, but i hear nothing else about it.

Also, i'm interviewing next week, should i even bother? Or should i relocate 2000 miles for USC???

ALL THOUGHTS APPRECIATED 🙂

-BM3

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BeamerM3 said:
Hey YALL,

bm3 here, what do people have against NYU? I see no support of NYU from SDN. I know it's expensive as all HELL, but i hear nothing else about it.

Also, i'm interviewing next week, should i even bother? Or should i relocate 2000 miles for USC???

ALL THOUGHTS APPRECIATED 🙂

-BM3

Everyone hates NYU cause It is disorganized, expensive, huge class size, and current students are not happy, but still we all apply there. Isn't that something? :laugh: and if you have a chance at another school or already been accepted to any other school, you know that at the end you will not attend NYU 😉 right? but if this is the only school you might have a shot at, go for the interview.
 
BeamerM3 said:
Hey YALL,

bm3 here, what do people have against NYU? I see no support of NYU from SDN. I know it's expensive as all HELL, but i hear nothing else about it.

Also, i'm interviewing next week, should i even bother? Or should i relocate 2000 miles for USC???

ALL THOUGHTS APPRECIATED 🙂

-BM3

please keep in mind that most of the criticism against NYU stems from shear ignorance about the school itself. had i not been accepted to Stony, i would have gone to NYU without qualms.

NYU is expensive. BUT IT IS LESS COSTLY THAN BU, PENN, UOP, AND USC in terms of tuition. the reason why people think it's expensive is because when you look at the cost of education on a school's website, you see it including the cost of living. for every d-school, the cost of living included housing and the housing is usually right next to the school. keeping NYU's location in mind, it is not suprising that the cost exceds 1/4 of a million. what people fail to understand is that nyc is all about efficient public transportation and you can perfectly live in brroklyn or queens and commute to NYU d-school. that would reduce the cost SIGNIFICANTLY!!! TAKE IT FROM SOMEONE WHO HAS LIVED IN THIS CITY FOR A LONG TIME!!

please do not think that NYU accepts anybody. it really does not. look at their stats. it's not like the average AA is 16 or somethin. the class size is large but so is the school. keep in mind that in the 5 boroughs of nyc (population more than 16 million), there are only 2 schools, columbia and NYU. people go to NYU and rarely to columbia. so the school and the patient pool can handle the large class size.

NYU d-school is sleak and quite extravagant in the inside. it really feels good when you're in that building. everything is shiny and new. the waiting area is regal.

go to predents.com and read my review of NYU. i am supercanine on that site.

NYU is a great d-school and if you live in a frugal way, you'll realize that you're getting a better deal than BU, Tufts, Penn, UOP and USC. the post grad programs are among the best in the entire nation and getting into NYU DDS is a step in their direction.

the school also oozes coolness because of its location, facilities, brand new clinics and superb location. you are close to both east village, chelsae, midtown and you're in murray hill, those are some grreat locations. not to mention Kipps Bay Plaza!!!

do go to the inTview and do not underestimate NYU. its grads are all over the place. check out their new website.

not to be trivial or anything but the name NYU looks better than USC
 
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BeamerM3 said:
Hey YALL,

bm3 here, what do people have against NYU? I see no support of NYU from SDN. I know it's expensive as all HELL, but i hear nothing else about it.

Also, i'm interviewing next week, should i even bother? Or should i relocate 2000 miles for USC???

ALL THOUGHTS APPRECIATED 🙂

-BM3
Hi beamer
well couple things one has already been mentioned ..they are not organized at all..dont get me started on how many examples i can give u LOL...and with the class size that they have i dont think they are doing a good job payin attention to the students ..etc(my opinion dont wanna start flam war ) Also the cost of goin to that school ... opposite of what someone already stated i think we all know that the tuition posted on the website includes other things still gonna be money most of us be borrowin SO it should be considered...but sad thing is we all apply to it and if we dont have a choice or got family in NY wll attend it...
 
Alot of people do hate the school for the wrong reasons though. There's always the rumor of NYU not having enough chairs, or NYU failing out too many students...If you wanna hate on a school, at least give hate it for a legit reason, not some BS rumors.
 
INFNITE said:
Alot of people do hate the school for the wrong reasons though. There's always the rumor of NYU not having enough chairs, or NYU failing out too many students...If you wanna hate on a school, at least give hate it for a legit reason, not some BS rumors.


thank you very much....that's what i am talkin about....those people have not been to nyc and so they dont knwo what they're talkin about....


for those who bash NYU, keep in mind that their grads go to all sorts of specialties and their GPs end up hookin up with high-end practices in central park west and park avenue, which are pretty extravagant places.
 
if a school accepts its students without interviews, i think that says alot about the school...that it sucks.

BeamerM3 said:
Hey YALL,

bm3 here, what do people have against NYU? I see no support of NYU from SDN. I know it's expensive as all HELL, but i hear nothing else about it.

Also, i'm interviewing next week, should i even bother? Or should i relocate 2000 miles for USC???

ALL THOUGHTS APPRECIATED 🙂

-BM3
 
kiggar4l2000 said:
if a school accepts its students without interviews, i think that says alot about the school...that it sucks.

overall, i agree that it is not a good idea not to inTview applicants. however, here is what NYU thinks:

1-for a class of 260 students, they need to accept about 760 studetns and to accept 760, they'd need to interview more than 2000 people. try to imagine the resources needed to inTview all those people

2-why waste resources on kids who are not gona come anyway? (those who get accepted without inTview are usually those who have good stats, and those most likely end up going somewhere else more affordable)

on the other hand, here is what i think:

NYU has expanded its class for 2006; it is accepting more students and so it is not inTviewing everybdy to save their money (the admissions office told me that they are interested in a larger class this year and that it will be the first year that they accept people without inTviews). NYU is going to depend on increasing income from tuition of the larger class and on the conservation in things like inTviews and such. the money will be used for renovations that would attract more competitive students. then NYU would downsize the class tremendously, excluding the type of students that it had used as a source of income. in other words, NYU is at ease with making short term losses in reputation if it means long term gains..
 
fightingspirit said:
NYU is expensive. BUT IT IS LESS COSTLY THAN BU, PENN, UOP, AND USC in terms of tuition. the reason why people think it's expensive is because when you look at the cost of education on a school's website, you see it including the cost of living. for every d-school, the cost of living included housing and the housing is usually right next to the school. keeping NYU's location in mind, it is not suprising that the cost exceds 1/4 of a million. what people fail to understand is that nyc is all about efficient public transportation and you can perfectly live in brroklyn or queens and commute to NYU d-school. that would reduce the cost SIGNIFICANTLY!!! TAKE IT FROM SOMEONE WHO HAS LIVED IN THIS CITY FOR A LONG TIME!!

Okay, so you can go out of your way a bit and save some money by living outside of Manhattan. You can do that in every other major city as well. We have kids in our class that commute for an hour every morning to get to school. Bottom line is that NYU, given average living costs and tuition is more expensive than almost every school in the country. That being said, the difference between NYU, BU, USC, etc... in regards to price tag is very minimal. They are all expensive.

NYU gets bashed for reasons other than tuition...even though the criticism is unjust.
 
Hey Fightingspirit,
I'm not disputing your information on NYU. However, I am curious how you came to it? Especially some of your stats, did you interview there? I noticed you said that you wouldn't have minded going to NYU had you not gotten into stonybrook. As for your conjecture on their strategy, I'm assuming that has you're basing that on something, but what?


fightingspirit said:
overall, i agree that it is not a good idea not to inTview applicants. however, here is what NYU thinks:

1-for a class of 260 students, they need to accept about 760 studetns and to accept 760, they'd need to interview more than 2000 people. try to imagine the resources needed to inTview all those people

2-why waste resources on kids who are not gona come anyway? (those who get accepted without inTview are usually those who have good stats, and those most likely end up going somewhere else more affordable)

on the other hand, here is what i think:

NYU has expanded its class for 2006; it is accepting more students and so it is not inTviewing everybdy to save their money (the admissions office told me that they are interested in a larger class this year and that it will be the first year that they accept people without inTviews). NYU is going to depend on increasing income from tuition of the larger class and on the conservation in things like inTviews and such. the money will be used for renovations that would attract more competitive students. then NYU would downsize the class tremendously, excluding the type of students that it had used as a source of income. in other words, NYU is at ease with making short term losses in reputation if it means long term gains..
 
Mysteree said:
Hey Fightingspirit,
I'm not disputing your information on NYU. However, I am curious how you came to it? Especially some of your stats, did you interview there? I noticed you said that you wouldn't have minded going to NYU had you not gotten into stonybrook. As for your conjecture on their strategy, I'm assuming that has you're basing that on something, but what?

my stats are based on guestimation. last year's class was 232 and this year is more than that. so 260 is a guestimate. the rest is simply based on "conjecture" like you say. and no, i did not inTview there but i like ot go there just to talk with studetns and because i like the building. i work like 2 blocks away from NYU dental. and yes, had i not been accepted to my love Stony, i would have gone there an dlived in queens and commuted.
 
Seriously, why do people hate for no legitimate reason? I almost believed all the crap that was circulating on this forum as far as the negativity surrounding NYU. After I visited the school, I'm willing to move from Az to NY because the school, IMO, is off da chain. Please everyone, take all the BS here with a grain of salt. Not everything on the internet is truth.
 
... are pre-dents, former pre-dents who believe their state schools in Arizona, Indiana, or Alabama reign supreme, current NYU students with bad grades, and all others who fail to appreciate the school's resources, location, and its class size (believe me you - this, too, is a positive). And also, I have nothing against the aforementioned states... in fact, those are great schools for various reasons. It's just that people who grew up in the area know NY, appreciate NY, and have no reason to EVER live in other parts of the country. I can do that when I retire, or if my skin suddenly turns creamy Caucasian overnight. 👍

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PROS: It's the largest school in the country, and has a huge patient base. It has newly built and extensive facilities in all practice areas. A must-see. A top-notch faculty is associated with tremendous research and the federal funding for it is growing exponentially. With the large class comes diversity in both the student population and its resources. The school has relationships with dental businesses and consultancies, such as the Levin Group.

New York City speaks for itself. Look at the largest and best known practices in NYC and the Northeast, and you'll see the pull-and-power NYU has. And if you want to specialize, look at current rosters in residency programs nationwide. Likewise, alumni success is measurably significant - and future networking opportunities are good. And - I need Korean food on 32nd street.

Finally, as an Asian-American, I was excited to run into throngs of international dentists (from Asia, Africa, Europe, etc) who were there to be trained on a post-grad and CE level. It tells you a lot about a school's clinical reputation, faculty, and facilities. I saw this at Harvard, but did not see this at Columbia (perhaps b/c their facilities suck). All of the above are my observations, and not a statistical study conducted over 6 months. Please take it as that.

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CONS: It is a friggin large school with limited personalized attention. Location is associated with high expenses (mainly b/c of its non-tuition costs). There have been infamous rumors of high drop-out rates in past years, coupled with an uncaring and unresponsive administration. Yes, some have said that the large patient base can be BAD b/c of the large student population. Agreed. But I'd rather have a large and diverse pool of patients in the nation's largest city than be happy with a statistically higher "average-patients-per-student" figure in another podunk or second-tier-city institution.

Listen. I, too, was scared and put off by the negativity towards NYU on this website. In fact, I even thought only idiots attended NYU, and thought I should only consider it b/c my GPA (~3.0) is low compared to my DAT (24). And I'll say this straight up, albeit at the risk of sounding cocky. I studied econ/bio at Northwestern for undergrad, had a free ticket to NU medical school years ago before being disillusioned (was in a guaranteed BA/MD program - HPME), scored a 1580 and 1500 on the SAT and GRE, respectively, did a masters at Harvard, have an MPH and MHA, will be publishing an article with Harvard faculty this summer, made good money as a pharmaceutical management consultant - and straight up - I did not want to go to A SCHOOL FILLED WITH REJECTS and IDIOTS. But life is funny, and NYU was the only school to accept me (never mind my January application-submit date). Penn, Harvard, and Columbia rejected me. I had toyed with UMDNJ, Temple, and Stony Brook, but never seriously considered them. Though they are fine schools - bottom line- I did not want those names associated with my academic resume (perhaps I should have applied to them). So I was, in essence, FORCED to consider NYU. I thought I was headed to NYU College of Idiot Dentistry, with other rejects, lazy-asses, and/or foreigners with accents.

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But after I visited, my ill-conceived notions all faded and changed. Yes, some there hate the school, and some there went to garbage state schools and graduated with garbage grades - only to get into NYU and nowhere else. But there are tons of talented kids from Ivy League schools, top-20 institutions, or whatever rank/list/benchmark you prefer - who clearly selected NYU prudently among other acceptances. Would I have liked the "Harvard" name on my resume? Sure - but I already have it - and so do other kids at NYUCD.

One needs to check out the facilities, faculty, resources, alum base, and location - and compare it against other schools - and one will undoubtedly be blown away. This is an absolute mandate for ANY predent, for ANY school and not just NYUCD. But especially if you're from a large-city background or from the Northeast, NYU is a great option. They're large, old problems are being fixed, and they rock. Consider it. 👍 And when you do visit, pick up a copy of NEXUS, their publication, and read it when you're on the crapper. It'll make the experience that much more pleasant. :idea:

Frankly speaking, I'm getting a little weary of the NYU-bashing from some of the idiots on this board. A lot of it has SOME basis, MUCH of it is uncorroborated, and NONE of it is foolproof. Conversely, I can bash EVERY DENTAL SCHOOL in the US - just give me 5 minutes of Google-ing time - and I can come up with enough ammunition with which to flush any school down the toilet. But not ALL of it may be based on truth. Do I know for sure that I'll be successful b/c of NYU? I can't be 100% certain. But ask me in 4 years, and we'll compare notes.
 
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NYUCD2010 said:
Frankly speaking, I'm getting a little weary of the NYU-bashing from some of the idiots on this board.

Longest post evAr--summed up... 🙄
 
Thanks for the great info! ESPECIALLY NYUCD2010! Hopefully, this will set the NYU haters straight. G LUCK in D School to everybody!
 
xxJuiceDxx said:
Seriously, why do people hate for no legitimate reason? I almost believed all the crap that was circulating on this forum as far as the negativity surrounding NYU. After I visited the school, I'm willing to move from Az to NY because the school, IMO, is off da chain. Please everyone, take all the BS here with a grain of salt. Not everything on the internet is truth.


Can you tell me a bit more about the school other than the fact that it's "off da chain?" 🙂 I've been accepted but w/out an interview, so I haven't had a chance to check out the facilities. I"d appreciate your input.
 
WildcatDMD said:
Umm.. I don't get why you don't write "interview".. Sorry.


cus it's part of my charm i suppose!!! 😀 😀
 
I almost believed these rumors about NYU too, until I went to the open house in December. There's absolutely nothing wrong about NYU, their facilities are top notch and just gorgeous, it's in New York city and has the largest patient pool in the country. The place is so damn busy, with patients constantly coming in and out. As for the drop out rate, the dean of admission said that of the 232 students last year, only 7 students did not continue on to second year for various reasons. Aside from the class size and tuition, NYU is just as good clinically as any other school. All the resources are there for the student to succeed, if they tried hard. All these rumors about NYU should just be put to rest.
 
E. coli said:
. All the resources are there for the student to succeed, if they tried hard. All these rumors about NYU should just be put to rest.

I stayed with an NYU D3 when I attended the ADA annual convention last year, and he admitted that many of those "rumors" are true. So how would you explain that?

Was he lying? On the flip side, there are some great things about NYU, and the education is just as good as any other school. Plus, living in Manhattan has got to be sweet...
 
aside from lack of chair time and dropping a lot of the students, what are some of these "rumors"?
 
I got accepted at Pitt also, but i'm going to NYU for sure this Fall. I dig the school and i talked to a couple people who really like the school and it's facilities. NYU's students are placed into some very good specialty programs.

And hey... accepting people without the interview doesn't degrade the school. Creighton does it. Marquette did it. Those 2 are pretty well-respected schools.
And who in the hell wants to make a $600 trip anyway to talk about football or baseball with a faculty member of the school. I agree, every now and then they throw this question, "Why the heck do you want to become a dentist?"

Almost every dental student has some harsh feelings about their dental school for making them work too hard. Same case with NYU. I love it right now... i'll hate it my second year... I'll be indifferent 3rd year... and i'll love it 4th year.
 
Where should I start?
1. My friend is a recent grad from there and is having the worst time finding a job, while my friend from columbia doesn't.
2. Stats. 2 of my friends got accepted with 16-17 AA. Come on!!
3. I was accepted with no interview
4. Columbia takes most of the patients from N.Y.
5. Board pass rates part 1 at about 60%
6. Board pass rates part.2 at about 68%
7.Expensive
8. Staff criticize and treat students like @$@$.
9. @$##$# cold!
10. most peoples 5th choice. A definite baaaaaaackup school.
11.damn, do i need to go any further. I think you got the idea. If you don't
believe me ask and pull up any graduating senior or alumni and they will agree
with me, if not, then why does nyu request the most transfers from any other school, next to Boston.

Peace out, don't go there unless you don't get accepted anywhere else.
My friend jason is a second year student there and is really trying to get a
transfer out, but others schools won't take him in, why? I wonder?

UOP Class of 2009! where the students are happy and faculty care!!!!
 
jrsdsu said:
then why does nyu request the most transfers from any other school, next to Boston.

People from BU want to transfer? Where'd you get that from?

Also, if the part I pass rate for NYU is really 60%, then thats totally crappy. Not sure if that can be possible. If you didnt throw in the Boston kids want to transfer tidbit, then I would have been more inclined to believe your other "facts".
 
ItsGavinC said:
I stayed with an NYU D3 when I attended the ADA annual convention last year, and he admitted that many of those "rumors" are true. So how would you explain that?

Was he lying? On the flip side, there are some great things about NYU, and the education is just as good as any other school. Plus, living in Manhattan has got to be sweet...

Long story short?

Old curriculum and class size, those years (current D3s and D4s) started with much larger classes (over 260), the class sizes now for us(09s and 08s) is at around 220. For what it's worth, during those years the school upon realizing that they were overenrolled, offered around 50 students substantial amount of money if they would defer their acceptance for a year....

The class of 08 was the first class with the revised currciulum and revised class size. Their drop out rate is in line with the average for dental schools across the country... I think the number one of our academic advisors said was 7... I was too busy day dreaming about Jessica Alba to pay attention.

For us after the first semester only 1 or 2 kids got the boot because they literally failed every single class. A few students also left for personal reasons on their own accord and are offered spots in next year's class if they wish to return.

And now for jrdsu's *****ic list:

1) a single personal annecdote = fact since when?? if your friend can't find a job with a DDS degree, it's probably because he/she sucks too hard

2) yup, and there are kids in my class with 25s on their DATs... is it an indicator of how well they'll do in dental school? I've yet to discern a pattern...

3) so? when I applied I got into Penn without an interview. Boy that school must suck then huh?

4) HA! show me the data on this...

5) see above

6) see above

7) Yup sure is. But what institution in the heart of NYC wouldn't be? If the school didn't charge a high enough tuition to offset the opportunity cost of a dental school in manhattan, it would have sold/rented off the building. It's a simple economic thing. But I don't want to get into anything too complicated, it might make your head hurt.

8) What the hell are you basing this on?!!?! I have been treated very well, and so has my classmates.... does your anus bleed a lot from pulling out all this crap?

9) Yup, so unbearably cold, that's why we're the last remaining northern outpost in the world. after my neighbor died from frostbite only polar bears live in my building. If you have any real estate in this place you must have lost a ****load of money from the permafrost settling in and covering up the land.....

10) Hmm... I don't speak for anyone else, but it wasn't my last choice and a lot of my classmates also chose to go here.

11) damn, do I need to go any further. I think you're a *****, you get the idea.

frigging douchebag predents....
 
jrsdsu said:
My friend jason is a second year student there and is really trying to get a
transfer out, but others schools won't take him in, why? I wonder?

yeaaaah.... my friend slim shady is also tryin to transfer out but he got disheartened by what's happenin to jason... 😛 🙄
 
phremius said:
Long story short?

Old curriculum and class size, those years (current D3s and D4s) started with much larger classes (over 260), the class sizes now for us(09s and 08s) is at around 220. For what it's worth, during those years the school upon realizing that they were overenrolled, offered around 50 students substantial amount of money if they would defer their acceptance for a year....

The class of 08 was the first class with the revised currciulum and revised class size. Their drop out rate is in line with the average for dental schools across the country... I think the number one of our academic advisors said was 7... I was too busy day dreaming about Jessica Alba to pay attention.

For us after the first semester only 1 or 2 kids got the boot because they literally failed every single class. A few students also left for personal reasons on their own accord and are offered spots in next year's class if they wish to return.

And now for jrdsu's *****ic list:

1) a single personal annecdote = fact since when?? if your friend can't find a job with a DDS degree, it's probably because he/she sucks too hard

2) yup, and there are kids in my class with 25s on their DATs... is it an indicator of how well they'll do in dental school? I've yet to discern a pattern...

3) so? when I applied I got into Penn without an interview. Boy that school must suck then huh?

4) HA! show me the data on this...

5) see above

6) see above

7) Yup sure is. But what institution in the heart of NYC wouldn't be? If the school didn't charge a high enough tuition to offset the opportunity cost of a dental school in manhattan, it would have sold/rented off the building. It's a simple economic thing. But I don't want to get into anything too complicated, it might make your head hurt.

8) What the hell are you basing this on?!!?! I have been treated very well, and so has my classmates.... does your anus bleed a lot from pulling out all this crap?

9) Yup, so unbearably cold, that's why we're the last remaining northern outpost in the world. after my neighbor died from frostbite only polar bears live in my building. If you have any real estate in this place you must have lost a ****load of money from the permafrost settling in and covering up the land.....

10) Hmm... I don't speak for anyone else, but it wasn't my last choice and a lot of my classmates also chose to go here.

11) damn, do I need to go any further. I think you're a *****, you get the idea.

frigging douchebag predents....


awesome rebuttal
 
jrsdsu said:
Where should I start?
1. My friend is a recent grad from there and is having the worst time finding a job, while my friend from columbia doesn't.
2. Stats. 2 of my friends got accepted with 16-17 AA. Come on!!
3. I was accepted with no interview
4. Columbia takes most of the patients from N.Y.
5. Board pass rates part 1 at about 60%
6. Board pass rates part.2 at about 68%
7.Expensive
8. Staff criticize and treat students like @$@$.
9. @$##$# cold!
10. most peoples 5th choice. A definite baaaaaaackup school.
11.damn, do i need to go any further. I think you got the idea. If you don't
believe me ask and pull up any graduating senior or alumni and they will agree
with me, if not, then why does nyu request the most transfers from any other school, next to Boston.

Peace out, don't go there unless you don't get accepted anywhere else.
My friend jason is a second year student there and is really trying to get a
transfer out, but others schools won't take him in, why? I wonder?

UOP Class of 2009! where the students are happy and faculty care!!!!

During my Columbia interview, the president of c/o 2006 or 2007 (can't exactly recall) specifically told us that most of the patients in NYC go to NYU , but don't worry, we still get enough to complete our requirements.

What does it mean? It means, NYU has a very large patient pool.

I'll just assume that your ex-girlfriend goes to NYU and that's why you are so bitter about it.
 
Hmm, I got into Pitt, and to NYU w/out interview.. I"m kind of torn at the moment. I haven't seen NYU, but i have seen Pitt. these rumors or whatever you want to call them are driving me nuts. I don't know what to do? I'm from the west coast, so either place will have me freezing. Which one has teh better program in your opinion?

drengineer said:
I got accepted at Pitt also, but i'm going to NYU for sure this Fall. I dig the school and i talked to a couple people who really like the school and it's facilities. NYU's students are placed into some very good specialty programs.

And hey... accepting people without the interview doesn't degrade the school. Creighton does it. Marquette did it. Those 2 are pretty well-respected schools.
And who in the hell wants to make a $600 trip anyway to talk about football or baseball with a faculty member of the school. I agree, every now and then they throw this question, "Why the heck do you want to become a dentist?"

Almost every dental student has some harsh feelings about their dental school for making them work too hard. Same case with NYU. I love it right now... i'll hate it my second year... I'll be indifferent 3rd year... and i'll love it 4th year.
 
Nice rebuttal. Though it bites that you should even have to do that! NYU is not the bottom of the barrel, far from it. Though why it gets shafted by so many, I don't understand.

Great job 👍

phremius said:
Long story short?

Old curriculum and class size, those years (current D3s and D4s) started with much larger classes (over 260), the class sizes now for us(09s and 08s) is at around 220. For what it's worth, during those years the school upon realizing that they were overenrolled, offered around 50 students substantial amount of money if they would defer their acceptance for a year....

The class of 08 was the first class with the revised currciulum and revised class size. Their drop out rate is in line with the average for dental schools across the country... I think the number one of our academic advisors said was 7... I was too busy day dreaming about Jessica Alba to pay attention.

For us after the first semester only 1 or 2 kids got the boot because they literally failed every single class. A few students also left for personal reasons on their own accord and are offered spots in next year's class if they wish to return.

And now for jrdsu's *****ic list:

1) a single personal annecdote = fact since when?? if your friend can't find a job with a DDS degree, it's probably because he/she sucks too hard

2) yup, and there are kids in my class with 25s on their DATs... is it an indicator of how well they'll do in dental school? I've yet to discern a pattern...

3) so? when I applied I got into Penn without an interview. Boy that school must suck then huh?

4) HA! show me the data on this...

5) see above

6) see above

7) Yup sure is. But what institution in the heart of NYC wouldn't be? If the school didn't charge a high enough tuition to offset the opportunity cost of a dental school in manhattan, it would have sold/rented off the building. It's a simple economic thing. But I don't want to get into anything too complicated, it might make your head hurt.

8) What the hell are you basing this on?!!?! I have been treated very well, and so has my classmates.... does your anus bleed a lot from pulling out all this crap?

9) Yup, so unbearably cold, that's why we're the last remaining northern outpost in the world. after my neighbor died from frostbite only polar bears live in my building. If you have any real estate in this place you must have lost a ****load of money from the permafrost settling in and covering up the land.....

10) Hmm... I don't speak for anyone else, but it wasn't my last choice and a lot of my classmates also chose to go here.

11) damn, do I need to go any further. I think you're a *****, you get the idea.

frigging douchebag predents....
 
Mysteree said:
Hmm, I got into Pitt, and to NYU w/out interview.. I"m kind of torn at the moment. I haven't seen NYU, but i have seen Pitt. these rumors or whatever you want to call them are driving me nuts. I don't know what to do? I'm from the west coast, so either place will have me freezing. Which one has teh better program in your opinion?

you need to visit NYU and make your own independent judgement. yes, most of these are rumors. and speaking of ranks (although i kinda take them with a grain of salt) NYU's class average on the DAT (the only objective measure to compare applicants) is actually higher than that of Pitt. manhattan is waaaaaay cooler than pitt and NYU dental is breathtaking. make a visit and decide.

you'd do fine in either schools though
 
phremius said:
Long story short?

Old curriculum and class size, those years (current D3s and D4s) started with much larger classes (over 260), the class sizes now for us(09s and 08s) is at around 220. For what it's worth, during those years the school upon realizing that they were overenrolled, offered around 50 students substantial amount of money if they would defer their acceptance for a year....

The class of 08 was the first class with the revised currciulum and revised class size. Their drop out rate is in line with the average for dental schools across the country... I think the number one of our academic advisors said was 7... I was too busy day dreaming about Jessica Alba to pay attention.

For us after the first semester only 1 or 2 kids got the boot because they literally failed every single class. A few students also left for personal reasons on their own accord and are offered spots in next year's class if they wish to return.

And now for jrdsu's *****ic list:

1) a single personal annecdote = fact since when?? if your friend can't find a job with a DDS degree, it's probably because he/she sucks too hard

2) yup, and there are kids in my class with 25s on their DATs... is it an indicator of how well they'll do in dental school? I've yet to discern a pattern...

3) so? when I applied I got into Penn without an interview. Boy that school must suck then huh?

4) HA! show me the data on this...

5) see above

6) see above

7) Yup sure is. But what institution in the heart of NYC wouldn't be? If the school didn't charge a high enough tuition to offset the opportunity cost of a dental school in manhattan, it would have sold/rented off the building. It's a simple economic thing. But I don't want to get into anything too complicated, it might make your head hurt.

8) What the hell are you basing this on?!!?! I have been treated very well, and so has my classmates.... does your anus bleed a lot from pulling out all this crap?

9) Yup, so unbearably cold, that's why we're the last remaining northern outpost in the world. after my neighbor died from frostbite only polar bears live in my building. If you have any real estate in this place you must have lost a ****load of money from the permafrost settling in and covering up the land.....

10) Hmm... I don't speak for anyone else, but it wasn't my last choice and a lot of my classmates also chose to go here.

11) damn, do I need to go any further. I think you're a *****, you get the idea.

frigging douchebag predents....

I can bet a million dollars you must go to NYU! Acceptance to UPENN without an interview=whatever. While my interview at UPENN, corky asked me what other schools i had got accepted to and replied nyu and creighton as the two acceptances without interview. She couldn't believe a school accepted someone without an interview frankly. So that remark is bs.No one in their right mine will go to NYU over UPENN. Im sure NYU was your first choice :laugh: anyhow i was just posting the info. my friend told me and was backed up by local dentists. I wouldn't post garbage. Im already accepted somewhere else. Im just trying to prevent someone from making a stupid i mean not so smart decision :laugh: From 3 graduating NYU dentists, all 3 said they would rather have their own child wait another year before going to NYU. Good luck graduating on time and finding someone to hire you :laugh:
 
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[ Acceptance to UPENN without an interview=whatever. While my interview at UPENN, corky asked me what other schools i had got accepted to and replied nyu and creighton as the two acceptances without interview. She couldn't believe a school accepted someone without an interview frankly. So that remark is bs.No one in their right mine will go to NYU over UPENN. Im sure NYU was your first choice :laugh: anyhow i was just posting the info. my friend told me and was backed up by local dentists. I wouldn't post garbage. Im already accepted somewhere else. Im just trying to prevent someone from making a stupid i mean not so smart decision :laugh: From 3 graduating NYU dentists, all 3 said they would rather have their own child wait another year before going to NYU. Good luck graduating on time and finding someone to hire you :laugh:[/QUOTE]
 
phremius said:
Long story short?

Old curriculum and class size, those years (current D3s and D4s) started with much larger classes (over 260), the class sizes now for us(09s and 08s) is at around 220. For what it's worth, during those years the school upon realizing that they were overenrolled, offered around 50 students substantial amount of money if they would defer their acceptance for a year....

The class of 08 was the first class with the revised currciulum and revised class size. Their drop out rate is in line with the average for dental schools across the country... I think the number one of our academic advisors said was 7... I was too busy day dreaming about Jessica Alba to pay attention.

For us after the first semester only 1 or 2 kids got the boot because they literally failed every single class. A few students also left for personal reasons on their own accord and are offered spots in next year's class if they wish to return.

And now for jrdsu's *****ic list:

1) a single personal annecdote = fact since when?? if your friend can't find a job with a DDS degree, it's probably because he/she sucks too hard

2) yup, and there are kids in my class with 25s on their DATs... is it an indicator of how well they'll do in dental school? I've yet to discern a pattern...

3) so? when I applied I got into Penn without an interview. Boy that school must suck then huh?

4) HA! show me the data on this...

5) see above

6) see above

7) Yup sure is. But what institution in the heart of NYC wouldn't be? If the school didn't charge a high enough tuition to offset the opportunity cost of a dental school in manhattan, it would have sold/rented off the building. It's a simple economic thing. But I don't want to get into anything too complicated, it might make your head hurt.

8) What the hell are you basing this on?!!?! I have been treated very well, and so has my classmates.... does your anus bleed a lot from pulling out all this crap?

9) Yup, so unbearably cold, that's why we're the last remaining northern outpost in the world. after my neighbor died from frostbite only polar bears live in my building. If you have any real estate in this place you must have lost a ****load of money from the permafrost settling in and covering up the land.....

10) Hmm... I don't speak for anyone else, but it wasn't my last choice and a lot of my classmates also chose to go here.

11) damn, do I need to go any further. I think you're a *****, you get the idea.

frigging douchebag predents....

hahahahaha you got 'em! pre-dent elitism makes me laugh, too. :laugh:
 
jrsdsu said:
I can bet a million dollars you must go to NYU! Acceptance to UPENN without an interview=whatever. While my interview at UPENN, corky asked me what other schools i had got accepted to and replied nyu and creighton as the two acceptances without interview. She couldn't believe a school accepted someone without an interview frankly. So that remark is bs.No one in their right mine will go to NYU over UPENN. Im sure NYU was your first choice :laugh: anyhow i was just posting the info. my friend told me and was backed up by local dentists. I wouldn't post garbage. Im already accepted somewhere else. Im just trying to prevent someone from making a stupid i mean not so smart decision :laugh: From 3 graduating NYU dentists, all 3 said they would rather have their own child wait another year before going to NYU. Good luck graduating on time and finding someone to hire you :laugh:

God, I can sense the professionalism already. :shakes head:
 
amsie said:
God, I can sense the professionalism already. :shakes head:

Hey amsie,
I've got a question for you, you're not applying this cycle right, will you be applying next year? Just wondering..
 
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