Why does everyone pronounce "troponin" incorrectly in clinical settings?

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Gurby said:
Why does everyone say "trip-OH-nin"? Shouldn't it be "TROPE-oh-nin"? Am I missing something here?
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I think it's mostly because of whatever regional accent a person grows up with --- such as the typical Philly person who pronounces water as "WOODER" or a Pittsburgh person saying "WARSH" my clothes 😀

My biggest pet peeve is basic science faculty in med school saying "SAUNA-meter" for centimeter --- God, that was like fingernails on chalkboard for me!
 
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Gurby said:
Why does everyone say "trip-OH-nin"? Shouldn't it be "TROPE-oh-nin"? Am I missing something here?
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Sounds like it's in the realm of potato/potato, y'now?

It's not on the level of FEEB-rile vs feb-rile which is just wrong wrong wrong

Studying dialects is a big hobby of mine.

Where the emphasis is placed on a word can make a big difference to the ears, as well as vowel shifts.

If almost everyone is doing it, I can almost guarantee it's a regional thing and not a mispronunciation.

I can send you links if you're interested in dialects. I've been learning various British ones for fun.
 
Aerus said:
Ever since undergrad all the way to med school, even now among my PhD professors and MD clinicians, I've only ever heard the first pronunciation. I think I've only heard TROPE oh nin like twice.
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Were they something other than american? I can imagine someone british or something saying it like that.
 
Aerus said:
Ever since undergrad all the way to med school, even now among my PhD professors and MD clinicians, I've only ever heard the first pronunciation. I think I've only heard TROPE oh nin like twice.
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midwest?
 
Why can’t it be tro-po-nin. To-mA-to. To-mah-to
 
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Eh, I've heard them both throughout my medical career (going back to high school).

The one that really gets me is um-BILL-i-cus vs. um-bil-LIKE-us. I'd never heard the latter until med school and thought my one professor just pronounced it funny. Then we had a neonatal surgeon from Cali who is apparently a pioneer in the field come speak at our school and he also said "um-bil-LIKE-us" later that week and it was a complete mindf*** to me. I've been questioning medical pronunciation of everything since then...
 
Stagg737 said:
Eh, I've heard them both throughout my medical career (going back to high school).

The one that really gets me is um-BILL-i-cus vs. um-bil-LIKE-us. I'd never heard the latter until med school and thought my one professor just pronounced it funny. Then we had a neonatal surgeon from Cali who is apparently a pioneer in the field come speak at our school and he also said "um-bil-LIKE-us" later that week and it was a complete mindf*** to me. I've been questioning medical pronunciation of everything since then...
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do-oh-deen-um vs do-odd-en-um
 
dpmd said:
Were they something other than american? I can imagine someone british or something saying it like that.
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I still hear some American attendings say debridement as "de-BRIDE-ment" when most say it as "de-BREED-ment"
 
In the "Midwest" here and I've only ever heard trop-OH-nin.

Stagg737 said:
Those aren't that odd to me because I've heard them both for years. I'd never heard um-bill-LIKE-us before M2 and It still just sounds so wrong every time I hear it...
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Um-bil-LIKE-us is the technically correct pronunciation if you're a scholar of Latin, just like do-oh-DEEN-um is the technically correct pronunciation. But no one is going to ding you for saying um-billy-cus or do-WAH-den-um. Or rather, they shouldn't.
 
Gurby said:
Why does everyone say "trip-OH-nin"? Shouldn't it be "TROPE-oh-nin"? Am I missing something here?
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I've never heard the latter, that's interesting! The variations I've heard for other parts have been Commonwealth countries (UK, Canada) versus the US.

CERV-ical verses cer-VI-cal.
SKEL-etal versus skel-EE-tal.
CAP-ill-aries versus cap-PILL-eries.
I think the Brits also spell "fetus" and "esophagus" with extra O's (foetus, oesophagus).
 
dpmd said:
Definitely if literally everyone with any knowledge in the hospital is saying it one way they must all be saying it wrong. You should absolutely start correcting everyone.
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We had a lecture recently where the professor was reviewing the mechanism of the "TRO-poh-nin" complex with us, and then in the next sentence explained how elevated "trip-OH-nin" levels can be a marker of myocardial damage. I shed a tear. Next time I will be sure to raise my hand and let him know that he's wrong.
 
PrettyLadyDoc24 said:
I've never heard the latter, that's interesting! The variations I've heard for other parts have been Commonwealth countries (UK, Canada) versus the US.

CERV-ical verses cer-VI-cal.
SKEL-etal versus skel-EE-tal.
CAP-ill-aries versus cap-PILL-eries.
I think the Brits also spell "fetus" and "esophagus" with extra O's (foetus, oesophagus).
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Oh god, cap-PILL-eries is the one that gets me. I cannot deal with it.
 
“sontimeter” just kills me every time. my partner knew how much it pissed me off, so he started dictating his op notes using that word any time I’m around... I throw something at him every time he does it
In Ortho, we also have pilon, pronounced “pee-lawn” (the French way) and “pie-lawn” (for those who don’t want to sound pretentious)


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OrthoTraumaMD said:
“sontimeter” just kills me every time. my partner knew how much it pissed me off, so he started dictating his op notes using that word any time I’m around... I throw something at him every time he does it
In Ortho, we also have pilon, pronounced “pee-lawn” (the French way) and “pie-lawn” (for those who don’t want to sound pretentious)


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My med school got sick of being corrected on minor nuances of pronunciation on "Poiseuille's" (we were close), so a large number of us just started intentionally saying "poise-Willy's" so that the francophiles would leave us alone.
 
Why does it matter? Worry about bigger issues
 
Crayola227 said:
gyn-ee?

I can't even hear that in my head wtf
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Usually I've heard this used in a derogatory way by general surgeons. Never heard an OB-Gyn refer to themselves that way.
 
Sontimeter makes my toes curl up...in a bad way.

I have a partner who pronounces inflammation of the apocrine sweat glands as "HIDradenitis (short I) whereas I've only ever heard/pronounced it HIDE-radenitis.
 
As long as it's mutually intelligible, who the **** even cares...
 
Had a cardiology professor who pronounced aldosterone like "al-do-ster-OWN", like Stallone. Sounded like a NJ mobster was part of the RAAS pathway. But when you're the head of cards, I guess you pretty much have license to pick your own pronunciations.
 
moggat said:
Had a cardiology professor who pronounced aldosterone like "al-do-ster-OWN", like Stallone. Sounded like a NJ mobster was part of the RAAS pathway. But when you're the head of cards, I guess you pretty much have license to pick your own pronunciations.
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That's how everyone pronounces it at the hospital I work at...how do you pronounce it?
 
SpartanDOnoharm said:
That's how everyone pronounces it at the hospital I work at...how do you pronounce it?
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I've occasionally heard "aldo-STEER-own", but almost always I hear it "al-DAWS-ter-own", with the emphasis on the second syllable. Not sure what the last poster was going for.
 
NVO said:
Everyone in NY who says "OB-GYN" says every letter, but i noticed in the midwest people say OB-Gyn as in "O-B-Guyn"

thought that was interesting
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I haven’t noticed any regional trends, but nothing is worse than the select few white-haired department heads that insist on saying “OB-jinn”.
 
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