Why does step 1 not step 2 appear to be the gold standard for residency?

[Mad Jack]

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You need to stop hating. Just because you didn't do well on step 1 doesn't mean that the people who do are robots. Not sure where you even got that from

He didn't even do that poorly lol, he's in the 220s and is just burned he can't do some crazy competitive specialty as a shoe-in. Guy needs to chill.

 

[bashwell]

He didn't even do that poorly lol, he's in the 220s and is just burned he can't do some crazy competitive specialty as a shoe-in. Guy needs to chill.

I don't know if he's taken it yet, but he could take Step 2 and try to do much better. Rather than asking about what can't be undone, he could focus on the future and improve himself.

 

[failedatlife]

Sorry, I did not mean to derail this thread at all with my stupidity. OP, for what is worth, in ENT I am told Step 1 is way more important than Step 2 and it is the gold standard. A resident at my school said they screened (soft, all kids at my school will interview) at 245 this year with Step 1, did not care about Step 2. This is just one data point, not all school have such unforgiving screens per my mentor. As mentioned above, everyone takes Step 1 and they don't care about research so much in the department here. Frankly they are too lazy to read through apps and want a quick way to sort, per the resident I spoke to last week. Again, sorry, I don't mean to derail any threads. If you are M2, please study for Step 1 as much as you can as you can see how important this test is over everything else. Thank you.

 

[Psai]

Sorry, I did not mean to derail this thread at all with my stupidity. OP, for what is worth, in ENT I am told Step 1 is way more important than Step 2 and it is the gold standard. A resident at my school said they screened (soft, all kids at my school will interview) at 245 this year with Step 1, did not care about Step 2. This is just one data point, not all school have such unforgiving screens per my mentor. As mentioned above, everyone takes Step 1 and they don't care about research so much in the department here. Frankly they are too lazy to read through apps and want a quick way to sort, per the resident I spoke to last week. Again, sorry, I don't mean to derail any threads. If you are M2, please study for Step 1 as much as you can as you can see how important this test is over everything else. Thank you.

Someone make it stop

 

[Jalby]

The smarter doctors in residency and beyond always had a higher step one score. I'm guessing you did bad on step 1, good on step 2, and want that one to count more. Not everybody tries on Step 2 so it isn't a fair comparison.

For me, I studied four months for step 1, 2 weeks for step 2. I took step 3 3 weeks after I graduated with no studying to get it out of the way. I had a 70 point drop from Step 1 to 3.

 

[Cognovi]

I had a 70 point drop from Step 1 to 3.

Did you still pass? The pass cut on Step 3 these days is 196.

 

[Jalby]

Did you still pass? The pass cut on Step 3 these days is 196.

259 to 224 to 192. Back in the day the passnumber was 188 or 189. I expected to get a 200 on Step 3. I figured if I failed, I would pay the $500 and retake it. I already had my residency, so if I failed it wouldn't matter. I would much rather have the 2-3 weeks of freedom without studying.

 

[aalamruad]

... along with many things in medicine... there is no good reason. Why is there a Step 2 practice question asking me if I know what PHRASE to use for a mother who has interuterine fetal demise... that's not intellectually insulting?

😕

 

[Cognovi]

😕

between uteri

 

[omn]

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NO ! It's worse ... if you would have told me four years ago, that I would have a STEP 2 practice (!) question about diagnosing an (add description here) skin rash in a female gymnast (importantly her friend had one too, (and her friend had one) and they just were returning from a gymnastics meet in Connecticut ... I would have probably never bothered with any of it....

.... Female gymnasts with rashes on a sporting trip to Connecticut ... is it a joke ?

(spoiler alert, the answer is tinea corporis.. thank you very much UWORLD )
.... and MCC, trychophyton rubrum for the ID impaired ...

 

[omn]

😕

Clever BOY

 

[omn]

between uteri

and Clever BOY II

 

[omn]

So, to answer your question... probably because Physiology, Molecular Biology, and Genetics ... are all difficult
... (about things being concrete ... )
THANK YOU WORLD !

 

[aalamruad]

NO ! It's worse ... if you would have told me four years ago, that I would have a STEP 2 practice (!) question about diagnosing an (add description here) skin rash in a female gymnast (importantly her friend had one too, (and her friend had one) and they just were returning from a gymnastics meet in Connecticut ... I would have probably never bothered with any of it....

.... Female gymnasts with rashes on a sporting trip to Connecticut ... is it a joke ?

(spoiler alert, the answer is tinea corporis.. thank you very much UWORLD )
.... and MCC, trychophyton rubrum for the ID impaired ...

Clever BOY

and Clever BOY II

So, to answer your question... probably because Physiology, Molecular Biology, and Genetics ... are all difficult
... (about things being concrete ... )
THANK YOU WORLD !

What's wrong with you? Genuinely concerned..