Why pharmacists are paid so much.

[Aznfarmerboi]

The reason why pharmacists are paid so much is the same reasons why airline pilots are paid so much. It has less to do with the training and more with what can happen.

Pharmacists have a "corresponding responsibility" as the prescriber. What this means is that we have to give the right drug to the right patient, while checking for dosages, drug to drug, and drug to disease interactions. We have to do this while making sure each prescription is filled according to strict insurance and government regulations. We have to do this because we are the last line of defense.

If we do not do our job correctly, this can result in law suits, regulatory fines, or losses in insurance audits. This can all results in loses that can go anywhere from a few hundred to millions.

Here are a few examples...

If the doctor writes "Take one tablet by mouth daily", and we mis-interpret it as "Take one tablet by mouth every other day", CVS will automatically settle for 5-10k. If there was any harm involve, the lawsuit can go for millions. Lawyers know that CVS or Walgreens make big money and will settle automatically, no matter how little the mistake is,

If we disposed of waste in the wrong way like patient information in regular garbage bags, warfarin or phentermine bottles in regular vial recyclables, loose pills in garbage can, antibiotics liquids into sink... we are fined hundred of thousands of dollars.

If we are missing one scheduled 2 pill, the DEA can fine us up to a few hundred thousand dollars and criminal charges. When a pharmacy dispenses 10,000 C2 in a week... it is easy to lose a pill.

If we bill a chemo medication worth 100k, we can lose that claim when audited. The insurance can not pay us from lack of documentation of information such as who we spoke to when the order was put in, the time that the prescription was ordered, missing prescribers information such as NPI, diagnosis codes, to incorrect billing information like wrong day supplies.

We are also responsible for growing the business, managing techs from training to scheduling them, counseling, spending time with each patient to answer their questions - because they can not get a hold of their doctor or their doctor was too busy, watching out for fake prescriptions, medication abuse, and making sure medications are stored properly.

To end this off, today... a resident prescribed Bactrim DS suspension to a month old infant. I caught the interaction where it could have resulted in massive damage to the infant's brain.

Another interaction is a beta blocker refilled right after a cocaine induced heart attack. My computer does not detect for this... but I do.

My question to you is what is this worth to the doctors who made the mistakes, and to my company? Definitely more than 150k...

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[notafraid87]

The reason why pharmacists are paid so much is the same reasons why airline pilots are paid so much. It has less to do with the training and more with what can happen.

Pharmacists have a "corresponding responsibility" as the prescriber. What this means is that we have to give the right drug to the right patient, while checking for dosages, drug to drug, and drug to disease interactions. We have to do this while making sure each prescription is filled according to strict insurance and government regulations. We have to do this because we are the last line of defense.

If we do not do our job correctly, this can result in law suits, regulatory fines, or losses in insurance audits. This can all results in loses that can go anywhere from a few hundred to millions.

Here are a few examples...

If the doctor writes "Take one tablet by mouth daily", and we mis-interpret it as "Take one tablet by mouth every other day", CVS will automatically settle for 5-10k. If there was any harm involve, the lawsuit can go for millions. Lawyers know that CVS or Walgreens make big money and will settle automatically, no matter how little the mistake is,

If we disposed of waste in the wrong way like patient information in regular garbage bags, warfarin or phentermine bottles in regular vial recyclables, loose pills in garbage can, antibiotics liquids into sink... we are fined hundred of thousands of dollars.

If we are missing one scheduled 2 pill, the DEA can fine us up to a few hundred thousand dollars and criminal charges. When a pharmacy dispenses 10,000 C2 in a week... it is easy to lose a pill.

If we bill a chemo medication worth 100k, we can lose that claim when audited. The insurance can not pay us from lack of documentation of information such as who we spoke to when the order was put in, the time that the prescription was ordered, missing prescribers information such as NPI, diagnosis codes, to incorrect billing information like wrong day supplies.

We are also responsible for growing the business, managing techs from training to scheduling them, counseling, spending time with each patient to answer their questions - because they can not get a hold of their doctor or their doctor was too busy, watching out for fake prescriptions, medication abuse, and making sure medications are stored properly.

To end this off, today... a resident prescribed Bactrim DS suspension to a month old infant. I caught the interaction where it could have resulted in massive damage to the infant's brain.

Another interaction is a beta blocker refilled right after a cocaine induced heart attack. My computer does not detect for this... but I do.

My question to you is what is this worth to the doctors who made the mistakes, and to my company? Definitely more than 150k...

I totally agree with you, but unfortunately, the DO guy will try to find a way to counter your argument and pre-meds...will be pre-meds 🙁

 

[naseuy]

I totally agree with you, but unfortunately, the DO guy will try to find a way to counter your argument and pre-meds...will be pre-meds 🙁

Or they'll just ignore it. They won't satisfied with any answer other then, "yes, they are overpaid".

 

[StallionRx]

CVS will definitely not automatically settle for 5-10k for a QD vs QOD dispensing incident nor will you be fined hundreds of thousands for the loss of a single c2 pill.

The chances of a QD vs QOD dosage error resulting in a payout of millions of dollars is also super rare. Possible? Yes, but very rare. I would imagine you would need to cause serious irreversible damage to someone or death.

The chance of losing money in audits is real, but you typically have the chance to amend lacking information. The last audit I had when I worked in retail came to 27k. They gave me a month to correct missing data. After final review we ended up giving back zero.



Sorry bro- I like your posts, but I cant agree with some of the numbers.

 

[MountainPharmD]

Sorry bub you missed the mark on that one. Retail Pharmacist get paid so much because of the for profit companies they work for. Your salary is tied to the distribution of a product and the profit made off that product. As you will see soon when that profit falls so will your salary. Yet this perceived liability and corresponding responsibility you have won't change.

There are millions of people making far less than a pharmacist who are working dangerous jobs where a mistake could cost lives. See police officers, firefighters, soldiers, coal miners, oil rig workers, iron and steel workers.

Using your logic the above named professions would have workers making hundreds of thousand a year. According to the 2013 Military Pay scale an E-4 with 2 years of service makes $2081.10 a month. That is a whopping $24,972 a year.

 

[PharmEcon]

Sorry bub you missed the mark on that one. Retail Pharmacist get paid so much because of the for profit companies they work for. Your salary is tied to the distribution of a product and the profit made off that product. As you will see soon when that profit falls so will your salary. Yet this perceived liability and corresponding responsibility you have won't change.

There are millions of people making far less than a pharmacist who are working dangerous jobs where a mistake could cost lives. See police officers, firefighters, soldiers, coal miners, oil rig workers, iron and steel workers.

Using your logic the above named professions would have workers making hundreds of thousand a year. According to the 2013 Military Pay scale an E-4 with 2 years of service makes $2081.10 a month. That is a whopping $24,972 a year.

Workers don't get paid a lot because the companies they work for make a lot. If that were the case, low-level employees at basically any corporation would make more than they do (especially in retail- think Walmart). The pay is more a function of supply and demand as well as liabilities and of course, politics.

 

[WVUPharm2007]

Its kind of amusing watching anyone making over $80,000 try to justify it. There is no justification. Healthcare professionals are all vastly overpaid. Pharmacists, dentists, physicians, podiatrists, optometrists...all of us. Vastly overpaid for what we do. Its the wonders of capitalism. Limit the market, improve your compensation. We are what we are because we cheat the invisible hand of the market.

I'm fine with just being honest about it. And what's the public going to do? Not use our services? We got a racket going. Its almost like being in a de facto union. Instead, there is no scab labor with which to temp those holding the purse. You either jump through the hoops and enter into the predetermined limited slots available to enter the industry or you go home. Hell, its better than a union.

 

[PharmEcon]

Its kind of amusing watching anyone making over $80,000 try to justify it. There is no justification. Healthcare professionals are all vastly overpaid. Pharmacists, dentists, physicians, podiatrists, optometrists...all of us. Vastly overpaid for what we do. Its the wonders of capitalism. Limit the market, improve your compensation. We are what we are because we cheat the invisible hand of the market.

I'm fine with just being honest about it. And what's the public going to do? Not use our services? We got a racket going. Its almost like being in a de facto union. Instead, there is no scab labor with which to temp those holding the purse. You either jump through the hoops and enter into the predetermined limited slots available to enter the industry or you go home. Hell, its better than a union.

This is a function of supply, demand, and the political institutions we have set up. But you can still justify even those high salaries if you analyze the costs v. benefits. We might be overpaid compared to what a real free market might produce, but a real free market might also worsen systemic outcomes. In some cases the barriers might be justified if you consider overall systemic costs and outcomes.

 

[MountainPharmD]

Workers don't get paid a lot because the companies they work for make a lot. If that were the case, low-level employees at basically any corporation would make more than they do (especially in retail- think Walmart). The pay is more a function of supply and demand as well as liabilities and of course, politics.

That is where supply and demand comes in. A company will pay their workers as little as they can. Wal-Mart has an endless supply of labor therefore they can pay them peanuts. It doesn't take 6 years of college to be a Wal-Mart cashier.

My point is pay is not tied to responsibility, liability or personal danger.

 

[farmadiazepine]

I feel very stupid after my previous post. I'm almost 100% sure I was drinking while writing it. I am drinking while writing this one too lol. I don't think we have to justify to people on a student forum why we get paid what we do. We have to justify it to our bosses and those who pay us, not "futuredoc'16".

On a side note, if I ever met that kid I would love to punch him in the face, over and over and over again.

By the way I did pharmacy because I am smart, and I did it for the money. Helping people is great, and its rewarding helping people face to face in retail, but I could of helped people even more as a social worker, or as a missionary, or whatever else, for a fraction of the pay. Anyone who says they want to help people, I challenge them to drop whatever they are doing and do social work as a career for 40k a year. I want to see who actually does.

 

[PharmEcon]

My point is pay is not tied to responsibility, liability or personal danger.

Of course it is. Liability and danger are factored into the price because they drive supply and demand too. There is a risk premium for risky jobs just as there are risk premiums for risky investments- it just gets factored into the price (salary) as it would into the interest rates in bonds. In the same way, responsibility also drives supply and demand and thereby, price.

 

[FutureDO2016]

I feel very stupid after my previous post. I'm almost 100% sure I was drinking while writing it. I am drinking while writing this one too lol. I don't think we have to justify to people on a student forum why we get paid what we do. We have to justify it to our bosses and those who pay us, not "futuredoc'16".

On a side note, if I ever met that kid I would love to punch him in the face, over and over and over again.

By the way I did pharmacy because I am smart, and I did it for the money. Helping people is great, and its rewarding helping people face to face in retail, but I could of helped people even more as a social worker, or as a missionary, or whatever else, for a fraction of the pay. Anyone who says they want to help people, I challenge them to drop whatever they are doing and do social work as a career for 40k a year. I want to see who actually does.

wow my thread gets closed because pharmacists get mad at my opinions while "punching him in the face" and essentially the same thread I made gets restarted...

 

[WVUPharm2007]

Once our mods sober up, this one will be closed , too.

 

[notafraid87]

wow my thread gets closed because pharmacists get mad at my opinions while "punching him in the face" and essentially the same thread I made gets restarted...

Actually, this thread was responding to your thread before it was closed.

I agree, closed down this thread as well and stop encouraging more idiots posting useless topics.

 

[FutureDO2016]

Did anyone of you grow up dreaming to be a pharmacist or enjoy your job?

 

[BMBiology]

....says the DO student. I am sure you have been dreaming to be a DO all of your life.

 

[BMBiology]

Hey recent grads, I'm a MS1 at a DO school.

I have mostly C's and a few B's and I'm probably ranked in the lower 25% of the class....should I even bother pursuing anesthesia: shadowing, rotating getting LOR...

I had a family emergency this past fall and my grades suffered as a result.

I just don't want to get my hopes up and shoot for something I'm not smart enough for...

Any advice or input?

Either you are trying to be someone you are not or just need special attention. I hope an internet forum is giving you what you need.

 

[FutureDO2016]

Instead of snooping through my old posts why don't you answer my question.

Also I chose DO because I love OMT and it was most affordable school for me. Plus most patients don't even know the difference between MD and DO.

 

[BMBiology]

Instead of snooping through my old posts why don't you answer my question.

Also I chose DO because I love OMT and it was most affordable school for me. Plus most patients don't even know the difference between MD and DO.

Right, you love OMT so much. Maybe you should get better grades so you can actually make a difference.

 

[PeachyOrange]

I feel very stupid after my previous post. I'm almost 100% sure I was drinking while writing it. I am drinking while writing this one too lol. I don't think we have to justify to people on a student forum why we get paid what we do. We have to justify it to our bosses and those who pay us, not "futuredoc'16".

On a side note, if I ever met that kid I would love to punch him in the face, over and over and over again.

By the way I did pharmacy because I am smart, and I did it for the money. Helping people is great, and its rewarding helping people face to face in retail, but I could of helped people even more as a social worker, or as a missionary, or whatever else, for a fraction of the pay. Anyone who says they want to help people, I challenge them to drop whatever they are doing and do social work as a career for 40k a year. I want to see who actually does.

A drunk Pharmacist who has anger issues, very nice! Go to AA and seek help farmadiazepan. I'll make it to psych rotations pretty soon and can make good recommendations. We all know how you love the finer things in life

 

[FutureDO2016]

You don't know my grades and how are you making a difference.

 

[PeachyOrange]

....says the DO student. I am sure you have been dreaming to be a DO all of your life.

Really BMSBiology?! There's plenty of us students who actually believe in holistic approach to medicine. Seems like you are just threatened by us DOs as we don't encourage prescribing drugs as much, putting your jobs in jeopardy.

 

[BMBiology]

Really BMSBiology?! There's plenty of us students who actually believe in holistic approach to medicine. Seems like you are just threatened by us DOs as we don't encourage prescribing drugs as much, putting your jobs in jeopardy.

Yes, there are plenty of people who believe in ghosts too

 

[BMBiology]

You don't know my grades and how are you making a difference.

I have mostly C's and a few B's and I'm probably ranked in the lower 25% of the class

you got the right stuffs

 

[FutureDO2016]

Whatever I'd rather be a DOctor than a lame pharmacist. If you ask 100 girls, do you want to marry a doctor or pharmacist, hands down the doc will go home with the girl.

 

[FutureDO2016]

That's the thing you don't know anything about me and you don't know if I'm writing made up scenarios or talking about real stuff. I'm finding it pretty entertaining though how you guys are getting defensive and trying to think of comebacks for me. Haha

 

[BMBiology]

Whatever I'd rather be a DOctor than a lame pharmacist. If you ask 100 girls, do you want to marry a doctor or pharmacist, hands down the doc will go home with the girl.

yes, some people need to be a prestigious DO to get girls.

 

[BMBiology]

That's the thing you don't know anything about me and you don't know if I'm writing made up scenarios or talking about real stuff. I'm finding it pretty entertaining though how you guys are getting defensive and trying to think of comebacks for me. Haha

and i find it rather sad that someone needs to feel important on an internet forum. Just be yourself. We won't judge you

 

[PeachyOrange]

I'm pretty sure Aznfarmerboi restarted this thread to get his facts out. Not for a place to take out your suppresed anger.

 

[BMBiology]

I'm pretty sure Aznfarmerboi restarted this thread to get his facts out. Not for a place to take out your suppresed anger.

Yes and Peachy felt an urgent need to register on SDN just so he can comment on this important topic.

Seriously, where do you guys come from? Is pharmacy that important to you? Did a pharmacist hurt your feelings or something? Broke your heart? What happened?

 

[PeachyOrange]

Yes and Peachy felt an urgent need to register on SDN just so he can comment on this important topic.

Seriously, where do you guys come from? Is pharmacy that important to you? Did a pharmacist hurt your feelings or something? Broke your heart? What happened?

A purple unicorn dropped us off on top of a rainbow and we slid down it like on a slip and slide to land at the pot of gold, which is this thread on pharmacists salaries

 

[BMBiology]

A purple unicorn dropped us off on top of a rainbow and we slid down it like on a slip and slide to land at the pot of gold, which is this thread on pharmacists salaries

😕

 

[psychoandy]

what is wrong with you people?

http://www.bls.gov/ooh/healthcare/physicians-and-surgeons.htm
mean annual salary for primary care: $202k

http://www.bls.gov/ooh/healthcare/pharmacists.htm
mean annual salary for pharmacists (all settings): $111k

so a primary care physician makes almost double. that's 100% appropriate to me based on harder job, residency requirement, and cost of med school.

to answer futureDO seriously: retail pays so much because on top of clinical knowledge and the law requiring a pharmacist to dispense medications, you have to deal with a tremendous amount of granular BS nonsense that a computer or tech can't automatically do. some examples for a retail pharmacist would be PAs, refill requests, insurance coverage issues, dealing with patients who want their medications but are not willing to pay for them (even though they drive a mercedes, a fresh pack of marlboros, and are better dressed than you), and controlled substances (outright diversion, early refills, fakes, etc).

for hospital pharmacists, the complexity of medications is greater and requires dedicated staff. not only that, but drug budgets must be controlled; if drug budget came out of, say, the neurosurgery cost center or the ID cost center, physicians would be doing the same thing.

the real question is why good techs don't get paid more!

 

[Dr Wario]

Whatever I'd rather be a DOctor than a lame pharmacist. If you ask 100 girls, do you want to marry a doctor or pharmacist, hands down the doc will go home with the girl.

LOL that is simply because the public generally doesn't know how much we actually make. If you look at the average physician and average pharmacist in the 25-30 age bracket, you will see that the pharmacists have a massive advantage in terms of finances and lifestyle, had the girl actually known that I believe the situation would be quite reversed. I mean seriously, what girl would want to marry a resident working 60-70 hours per week while still living like a freshman is college, all the while having 250k of debt?

I think it is pretty humorous that physicians think pharmacists are the students too stupid/lazy to get into med school, most pharmacists I know made a very calculated decision to pursue the career with a generally better lifestyle over the one with more prestige. To give you some perspective, I scored in the 99 percentile on the pcat and a 142/150 on the naplex with a 3.8 undergrad and 3.7 graduate gpa. I could have easily gotten into med school (actual MD not DO) but knew that my main goal was to have to ability to retire early as I value my time much more than stuff. Making this decision, I calculated the expected age that I would likely achieve a $1M net worth. I tried to account for as many variables as I could in my spreadsheet including cost of education, expected salary and time value of money. I found that I would achieve the goal at about 34 y/o as a pharmacist and about 41 as a physician (adjusting amounts for inflation). I then projected the net worth of a pharmacist to age 41, and found that I would expect to have about 2.2M. Now I have no interest in having to work in traditional employment past age 40, but I thought it would be interesting to determine the breakeven point between the two careers. What I found is that it would not be until age 50 that the average physician would overtake the average pharmacist in net worth.

Now I'm not saying my calculations were exactly perfect and they most certainly will not pertain to all cases. Many people like to make the argument that a doctor can specialize, achieving annual income closer to 300-350k vs the 200k average. Here is the thing though, specializing takes a lot of extra effort and talent, had a person chosen pharmacy having the same talent and putting in the same effort, he/she will very likely see a similar rise in income. At the end of the day, if you want to work a full career (25+ years) and value prestige over QoL, become a physician...otherwise the pharmacist wins hands down.

 

[BMBiology]

LOL that is simply because the public generally doesn't know how much we actually make. If you look at the average physician and average pharmacist in the 25-30 age bracket, you will see that the pharmacists have a massive advantage in terms of finances and lifestyle, had the girl actually known that I believe the situation would be quite reversed. I mean seriously, what girl would want to marry a resident working 60-70 hours per week while still living like a freshman is college, all the while having 250k of debt?

Come on Wario! Girls are not into money. Money is just extra cheese on a already good pizza. It's about having the personality (and not having much student loans)

 

[notafraid87]

Instead of snooping through my old posts why don't you answer my question.

Also I chose DO because I love OMT and it was most affordable school for me. Plus most patients don't even know the difference between MD and DO.

Yeah, right uh huh...and not many DO docs actually use OMT. Just be honest, if you had the grades to go to MD schools (which obviously you didn't), then you would've bashed DO students instead of messing around at the pharmacy forum 🙄

And can someone please close down this thread?

 

[PeachyOrange]

Yeah, right uh huh...and not many DO docs actually use OMT. Just be honest, if you had the grades to go to MD schools (which obviously you didn't), then you would've bashed DO students instead of messing around at the pharmacy forum 🙄

And can someone please close down this thread?

Unlike your high pay, for some of us students affordability really does play a factor in deciding paths and schools. We're not going to be banking 2.2M net worth by the time we hit 40, our pay scale to years of intern salary is just average.
Besides, what are you FutureDO's OMT prof to know his likes and class grades?!

 

[BMBiology]

Unlike your high pay, for some of us students affordability really does play a factor in deciding paths and schools. We're not going to be banking 2.2M net worth by the time we hit 40, our pay scale to years of intern salary is just average.
Besides, what are you FutureDO's OMT prof to know his likes and class grades?!

It is already 1:30 am in Florida right now. Your first post on SDN is about this topic and now you are up way pass your bedtime so you can again post about this topic.

You must love us 😍

Where's your DO buddy? Why is he not posting?

 

[PeachyOrange]

It is already 1:30 am in Florida right now. Your first post on SDN is about this topic and now you are up way pass your bedtime so you can again post about this topic.

You must love us 😍

Where's your DO buddy? Why is he not posting?

Well clearly someone's trying to snoop and find dirt on me like you did to FutureDO. My previous acct login credentials weren't the focus of my neurons while I was in school, since you've been very curious to know why my first post is on this. So have fun trying to dig dirt on me BMSBiology while I'm vacationing in Sanfran sipping Maitais.

 

[BMBiology]

Well clearly someone's trying to snoop and find dirt on me like you did to FutureDO. My previous acct login credentials weren't the focus of my neurons while I was in school, since you've been very curious to know why my first post is on this. So have fun trying to dig dirt on me BMSBiology while I'm vacationing in Sanfran sipping Maitais.

damn, even when you are vacationing you need to voice your opinion on this important topic. I sense some bitterness from you and your DO buddy. Maybe a drink would help to ease your pain

 

[FutureDO2016]

Most specialists make 350-550 per year so a pharmacist salary of 100-150 isn't going to really matter after docs finish their training. Yes primary care docs make about 200 but at least they actually have a rewarding career. Most docs will catch up to pharmD after about 5-10 years of working as an attending or in private practice.

Ask a bunch of docs and pharmacists if they enjoy what they do and you will get more positive responses from docs. All the pharmacists I talk to hate their job with a passion.

And someone should close this thread. This topic has brought enough amusement for a week🙂

 

[PeachyOrange]

It takes one to know one. Cheers BMSBiology

 

[Temperature101]

LOL that is simply because the public generally doesn't know how much we actually make. If you look at the average physician and average pharmacist in the 25-30 age bracket, you will see that the pharmacists have a massive advantage in terms of finances and lifestyle, had the girl actually known that I believe the situation would be quite reversed. I mean seriously, what girl would want to marry a resident working 60-70 hours per week while still living like a freshman is college, all the while having 250k of debt?

I think it is pretty humorous that physicians think pharmacists are the students too stupid/lazy to get into med school, most pharmacists I know made a very calculated decision to pursue the career with a generally better lifestyle over the one with more prestige. To give you some perspective, I scored in the 99 percentile on the pcat and a 142/150 on the naplex with a 3.8 undergrad and 3.7 graduate gpa. I could have easily gotten into med school (actual MD not DO) but knew that my main goal was to have to ability to retire early as I value my time much more than stuff. Making this decision, I calculated the expected age that I would likely achieve a $1M net worth. I tried to account for as many variables as I could in my spreadsheet including cost of education, expected salary and time value of money. I found that I would achieve the goal at about 34 y/o as a pharmacist and about 41 as a physician (adjusting amounts for inflation). I then projected the net worth of a pharmacist to age 41, and found that I would expect to have about 2.2M. Now I have no interest in having to work in traditional employment past age 40, but I thought it would be interesting to determine the breakeven point between the two careers. What I found is that it would not be until age 50 that the average physician would overtake the average pharmacist in net worth.

Now I'm not saying my calculations were exactly perfect and they most certainly will not pertain to all cases. Many people like to make the argument that a doctor can specialize, achieving annual income closer to 300-350k vs the 200k average. Here is the thing though, specializing takes a lot of extra effort and talent, had a person chosen pharmacy having the same talent and putting in the same effort, he/she will very likely see a similar rise in income. At the end of the day, if you want to work a full career (25+ years) and value prestige over QoL, become a physician...otherwise the pharmacist wins hands down.

Did you actually make that calculation?

 

[PeachyOrange]

Did you actually make that calculation?

If you actually open this thread, you will see most of these pharmacists complaining about living frugally while they boast/pose here as enjoying their luxurious lifestyles. My fav is Farmadiazepan, who boasted to be buying his 3rd house a year from now, but really is just living with his parents as he can't afford to live by himself. Reality bites. Don't worry, we are going to be on the same boat as you guys in a few years, so its okay to be yourselves and combine forces rather than bash us DO students.

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=881673

Farmadiazepan's words "I made more money at the age of 23 with zero debt than any doctor I know the age of 30 with massive student loans.

Who knows why pharmacists get paid so much money? Who the hell cares because we don't care at all! I'm just glad I'm not the idiot who went to medical school and paid a fortune for an education in which I only to start getting paid adult money at the age of 35. I made adult money at 23 years old, serious adult money.

There is no medical student or doctor I know who was able to buy a $1.2 million dollar house when they were only 25 years old. No medical student or doctor I know who bought their second house at the age of 26.

Pharmacists are the s*** man. For as long as people need medicine, we will always be here. For as long as there are medical students and residents and doctors, we will always be here to fix your mistakes and give second opinions, most of which are more trusted than yours because I just keep hearing that all day long from patients.

Don't get me wrong, there are some great doctors out there, those who really care. But medical students like you who make these comments, your the kind of person who I don't care about, who I laugh about when you are driving your expensive car, one which you can barely afford.

But anyways, you know what's awesome? I went to school for only 6 years, right after high school.

Nowadays, "doctor" is just a title which people associate wealth with. The reality is much different.

Good luck in everything you do! I'll be buying my 3rd house in a year from now. I'll also be retiring at 35. That's probably when you begin your own private practice."

 

[BelowTheMean]

Whatever I'd rather be a DOctor than a lame pharmacist. If you ask 100 girls, do you want to marry a doctor or pharmacist, hands down the doc will go home with the girl.

LOL...wow...and if you ask 100 girls what a DO is, none would know. You should first start by trying to prove yourself to people in your own profession (MDs) before coming into another profession and bash them. All my MD friends think DOs are a joke and are not equivalent to them and definitely should not get high paying specialties.. You're going to be in the same field as them, I'd try to study as much as i can and match a high paying specialty but considering youre wasting time in a pharmacy forum i think youve given up and just going to live with the primary care route so therefore youre pissed youre not going to make that much more than the "lame" pharmacist.

P.S. most of my class had stats to make MD schools so youre not that special.🙂

 

[WVUPharm2007]

Did anyone of you grow up dreaming to be a pharmacist or enjoy your job?

Yes. I thought the idea of being paid a ton to be the dork at the back of CVS sounded like a great racket. I was correct, it truly is.

 

[WVUPharm2007]

Whatever I'd rather be a DOctor than a lame pharmacist. If you ask 100 girls, do you want to marry a doctor or pharmacist, hands down the doc will go home with the girl.

Being rich helps, but rich ugly dorks just get gold diggers that plop out a kid then divorce them for alimony ASAP, anyway. I've seen it over and over.

 

[BMBiology]

Most specialists make 350-550 per year)

But aren't you a C student?

 

[BMBiology]

It takes one to know one. Cheers BMSBiology

That is it? I hope you didn't register another SN just so you can comment on this topic. That is rather sad...

 

[MountainPharmD]

Whatever I'd rather be a DOctor than a lame pharmacist. If you ask 100 girls, do you want to marry a doctor or pharmacist, hands down the doc will go home with the girl.

Isn't a DO for those not smart enough to get into a real Medical school? Kind of one step above going to a Caribbean Medical School.

Sure it says MD after your name but we all know what that DO means. Not smart enough.