I really don't see single payer happening in the US anytime within the next 10-20 years. 20+ years who knows, but for now I don't see it happening.
Do you mind expanding just a tiny bit more? I feel like a lot of people whose job markets went downwards unexpectedly say this line. I imagine 20 years ago people who worked in malls or blockbuster couldn't see a lot of the changes happening this fast. Not trying to challenge you but I get anxious thinking that my hard work will be for nothing. I like learning the subject, I feel I would like patient care, but it would be a little bit sad to think I will make like 200k+ and then make 120k after 8 years of working harder than an average person. I know I'm not entitled to anything and that 120 will not make me poor, but it would just be sad to get walloped by some policy change after all of this..
Ya no problem. The US switching to a single payer system is absolutely something I myself and many of premed/med school friends have thought about. It would really suck, like you said, to go through all these years of training looking towards a 200k+ salary and then end up getting 100-120k. The reason I don't think it will happen in the next 10-20 years is for one, the government really sucks at agreeing over almost anything. I mean they have been arguing over a 20 billion dollar wall for the last few years, I don't think they could all come together and push through a multi trillion dollar healthcare plan though, at least not without years or decades of social and political support from the majority of players. Which plays into my second point that even if the Democratic Party had control of the house, senate, and president, there are still Dems that would vote against these bills, as they are not as left leaning as many of the most vocal Dems today. Not to mention that the supreme court will be controlled by conservatives for a while, whether they vote left or right can vary slightly, but this kind of system would be challenged in the supreme court. Another point is that there is, and will constantly be healthcare lobbying against this kind of system. The US spends over 3 trillion dollars a year on healthcare, thats a lot of money for a lot of people, and they are going to fight to keep all that money coming.
yea I know just prefaced my q with that since some people don't answer if they think you're antagonizing them lmao. "google it then" and all that. I feel people with >300k debt would be super ****ed if a change that drastic occurred and the chance is definitely unlikely so I guess I'll turn a blind eye towards it and continue studying. Thanks
Its universal healthcare funded by tax payers. The gov would have a monopoly on the system and would pay whatever they want for services, so they would pay less, and doctors make less. Pretty much the doctors with higher salaries now, would have a larger pay cut. Except maybe plastic surgeons that only do non-insurance cosmetic work (boob jobs for days)
I feel like this is as likely to pass as free tuition and full student loan debt cancellation
I would say that the match is more high stakes than getting into a school, cause at that point you will most likely have 200k-300k+ in loans, so getting a job is kinda important.
I agree, I think getting free tuition/loan forgiveness would come before single payer.
Agreed. I think there's a lot of undo fear over this. In the long run, medicare for all saves money. The only people that should be worrying are those that are in insurance or in thr pharmacutical business
Medicare for all has been show to cut down excessive healthcare costs. No one is taking away your salary.
Name one (1) thing that has gotten cheaper once the government has gotten involved
That is how other specialties look at us (FM, IM) in medicine... Look at the poor IM/FM guy... his house is only 3000 sqft and he driving just an Acura. They feel pity for us and I don't blame them
Only 3000 sqft!?!?? My garage better be at least 3000 sqft *sarcasm*
Nothing is safe regardless of whether or not this gets passed. With the stroke of a pen, any fields bread and butter could go away over night. Conversely, a new innovation could randomly increase the earning potential of another field. There’s no way to know and anyone who pretends that they do have some insight into the future of a field they’ve never practiced in is probably a fool. Practicing physicians get blindsided by random changes to the way they’re expected to make money so a forum full of premeds and med students definitely won’t know.
I honestly think you're over-reacting with medicare for all. Like other posters have stated, it saves money in the long run, cuts down on unnecessary paperwork. Not one single politician is advocating to cut physician salaries. Try different news sources every now and again.
Duh. Bc that’s not popular. But the government always reimburses lower than private. You think the government will take over all of it and start reimbursing at a higher rate overall to compensate for the loss we’d otherwise take? That’s a special kind of naïveté.
Super cool post. Your sdn cred is envied by all and everyone thinks you’re a big deal.
There's a very good interview online about this that touches on this particular topic. I suggest you look at it, I believe it was through the young turks.
