Will medical schools still recognize these level 100 and 200 courses as "High Level" courses?

[jrooks13]

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I am trying to reinvent myself due to a lower GPA. I am not able to complete DIY post bacc at University (I have only taken about 12 credits of DIY post bacc courses at university, level 300 and 400 with A's), and now I can't pay my bills. So I will have to finish taking some science courses at community college because it's less expensive. Unfortunately, community colleges don't have that many "high-level" courses. All they have is the pre-requisites courses. It's very hard to find high-level courses in a community

Per checking multiple community colleges, I found one offering a 200-level immunology and 100-level "basic pathophysiology"

Course description:
BIO250: Immunology: This one-semester course provides a comprehensive overview of the basic principles of immunology. It examines the tissues, cells, and molecules of the immune system; innate and acquired immunity; and the structure and function of immunoglobulins and the nature of their interactions with antigens. Topics of altered immune function, like autoimmunity, immunodeficiencies, tumor immunology, and transplantation immunology are discussed.
Pre-requisite(s): BIOL 151 General Biology II or BIOL 191 Biology II.

BIO160: Basic Pathophysiology:
Pathophysiology introduces the student to the functional changes that occur in the body in response to injury or disease, including the physical and clinical manifestations, laboratory findings, diagnostic tests, and treatment strategies. The course covers the pathophysiology of all body systems with emphasis on inflammatory and infectious disease, neoplasia, congenital and genetic disorders, immunologic and endocrine dysfunction, fluid and electrolyte imbalances.
Prerequisites: BIOL 109 - Basic Anatomy and Physiology Lecture and Lab OR BIOL 121 - Anatomy and Physiology 1 (and Lab) and BIOL 123 - Anatomy and Physiology 2 (and Lab) AND HCTAL 101 - Medical Terminology

Are these still technically high-level courses or is it all about the Course Number and won't look good since they are not 300 or 400-level?

 

[KnightDoc]

I am trying to reinvent myself due to a lower GPA. I am not able to complete DIY post bacc at University (I have only taken about 12 credits of DIY post bacc courses at university, level 300 and 400 with A's), and now I can't pay my bills. So I will have to finish taking some science courses at community college because it's less expensive. Unfortunately, community colleges don't have that many "high-level" courses. All they have is the pre-requisites courses. It's very hard to find high-level courses in a community

Per checking multiple community colleges, I found one offering a 200-level immunology and 100-level "basic pathophysiology"

Course description:
BIO250: Immunology: This one-semester course provides a comprehensive overview of the basic principles of immunology. It examines the tissues, cells, and molecules of the immune system; innate and acquired immunity; and the structure and function of immunoglobulins and the nature of their interactions with antigens. Topics of altered immune function, like autoimmunity, immunodeficiencies, tumor immunology, and transplantation immunology are discussed.
Pre-requisite(s): BIOL 151 General Biology II or BIOL 191 Biology II.

BIO160: Basic Pathophysiology:
Pathophysiology introduces the student to the functional changes that occur in the body in response to injury or disease, including the physical and clinical manifestations, laboratory findings, diagnostic tests, and treatment strategies. The course covers the pathophysiology of all body systems with emphasis on inflammatory and infectious disease, neoplasia, congenital and genetic disorders, immunologic and endocrine dysfunction, fluid and electrolyte imbalances.
Prerequisites: BIOL 109 - Basic Anatomy and Physiology Lecture and Lab OR BIOL 121 - Anatomy and Physiology 1 (and Lab) and BIOL 123 - Anatomy and Physiology 2 (and Lab) AND HCTAL 101 - Medical Terminology

Are these still technically high-level courses or is it all about the Course Number and won't look good since they are not 300 or 400-level?

You asked the basically the same question a few months ago. Unfortunately, the answer hasn't changed.

Doing well in community college post-bacc classes, regardless of the course number, is not going to allow you to rehabilitate a sub par college GPA. If you cannot afford to take challenging post-bacc classes in a 4 year school to prove to adcoms that you can handle med school level coursework, you are going to have to be patient and wait until you have the funds to properly revinent yourself.

Otherwise, you are simply unlikely to be competitive when compared to people who either did a lot better in UG, or did just as well post-bacc, but in a far more challenging environment. Good luck!!

I spent 7-8 years in undergrad because I change my major like 7 times and was part-time some of those semesters. I only graduated with a 2.7GPA, and this includes lots of retakes and several W's. This is not a good representation of my ability. I know because I didn't take college seriously, partied a lot, and never realized I needed good grades when I first decided I wanted to do medicine.

During my time at university, I did take all my pre-med classes. I got C's and B's in all my pre-med work except physics 2, which I got an A-.
So I decided to do a post-bacc. After calculating my medical school GPA, I need 90 credits of post-back to reach exactly 3.0 GPA in both cumulative and the science GPA.
So this is what I am working on right now.

I took 20 credits last semester and got all A's. I am going to take another 20 credits this semester, and then finish off in the spring. MCAT is in 5-6 months which I am trying to study for but kind of hard taking 20 credits AND having a full-time job.

Another thing is that I can not take any classes at university because they are too expensive. So I am taking all 90 credits at different community colleges. I know that I have to take advanced courses, but community colleges only have 100-200 level classes. Since I am a non-trad student, I get last priority picking classes, so I have to go to multiple community colleges to get into available classes.

Classes i have taken so at community colleges
-Anatomy and Physiology 1: A
-Anatomy and Physiology 2: A-
-Basic Pathophysiology: A
-Human Biology: A
-Human Biology and Nutrition: A
-Zoology: A
-Botany: A
-Technical Physics: A
-Microbiology and infectious diseases: B+
-Immunology: A
-Pathology: A
-Cellular neurobiology: A
-Genetics/Biotechnology/Human Affairs: A
-Human Genetics: A
-Evolution and behavior: A
-Human Ecology: A

Post-bacc GPA: 3.9

So doing this do you think I have a chance or not since all of these classes are at community college?

 

[cj_cregg]

I am trying to reinvent myself due to a lower GPA. I am not able to complete DIY post bacc at University (I have only taken about 12 credits of DIY post bacc courses at university, level 300 and 400 with A's), and now I can't pay my bills. So I will have to finish taking some science courses at community college because it's less expensive. Unfortunately, community colleges don't have that many "high-level" courses. All they have is the pre-requisites courses. It's very hard to find high-level courses in a community

Per checking multiple community colleges, I found one offering a 200-level immunology and 100-level "basic pathophysiology"

Course description:
BIO250: Immunology: This one-semester course provides a comprehensive overview of the basic principles of immunology. It examines the tissues, cells, and molecules of the immune system; innate and acquired immunity; and the structure and function of immunoglobulins and the nature of their interactions with antigens. Topics of altered immune function, like autoimmunity, immunodeficiencies, tumor immunology, and transplantation immunology are discussed.
Pre-requisite(s): BIOL 151 General Biology II or BIOL 191 Biology II.

BIO160: Basic Pathophysiology:
Pathophysiology introduces the student to the functional changes that occur in the body in response to injury or disease, including the physical and clinical manifestations, laboratory findings, diagnostic tests, and treatment strategies. The course covers the pathophysiology of all body systems with emphasis on inflammatory and infectious disease, neoplasia, congenital and genetic disorders, immunologic and endocrine dysfunction, fluid and electrolyte imbalances.
Prerequisites: BIOL 109 - Basic Anatomy and Physiology Lecture and Lab OR BIOL 121 - Anatomy and Physiology 1 (and Lab) and BIOL 123 - Anatomy and Physiology 2 (and Lab) AND HCTAL 101 - Medical Terminology

Are these still technically high-level courses or is it all about the Course Number and won't look good since they are not 300 or 400-level?

I would not call these high level courses even aside from the course number because of the bolded in the course descriptions - they are pretty clearly designed to be intro level

 

[LunaOri]

Time to take some online courses!

 

[candbgirl]

There is really no hurry in any of this. Stop taking classes and get a job to help you get on a better financial footing. Save some money, pay your bills and when you can financially handle it, enroll at a 4 year college. When you are ready Med Schools will be there. Spend time researching DO schools.

I noticed you posted this “I spent 7-8 years in undergrad because I change my major like 7 times and was part-time some of those semesters. I only graduated with a 2.7GPA, and this includes lots of retakes”. Does the GPA you posted include all grades you have earned in college/university/CC/dual enrollment classes? There is no grade replacement for MD orvDO.

 

[jrooks13]

I would not call these high level courses even aside from the course number because of the bolded in the course descriptions - they are pretty clearly designed to be intro level

I see

Anything with a prereq of Intro Biology 2 should make them advanced since intro bio 2 is a required med school course

But I guess it just depends on the school:

Rosalind franklin medical school
Recommended Courses:

• One course in Statistics
• One course in Advanced Biology (200 level or above)
• English composition
• Other coursework in the Humanities and Social Sciences

 

[eigen]

What is described for pre-requisites is different from what you need to show yourself capable of medical school coursework.

For a post-bac to remediate a low GPA you aren't looking to show that you can do OK in pre-requisite coursework, you're looking to show you can do well in the coursework you'll need during medical school.

One step above intro biology is not a challenging upper-division course showing you can handle medical school coursework.