Will my criminal record effectt me??

[BeBe01]

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I have a couple of misdemeanors conviction and a felony arrest but it got dismissed and I have since got the felony expunged and my misdemeanors non-disclosed. I sent my application in already. I wonder if individual schools will ask me about my record because I didnt say anything about it on my AADSAS or TMDSAS app. Can schools see my misdemeanors if I got it non-dislcosed. Should I admit to it? What should i do?

 

[StayinNCali]

I have a couple of misdemeanors conviction and a felony arrest but it got dismissed and I have since got the felony expunged and my misdemeanors non-disclosed. I sent my application in already. I wonder if individual schools will ask me about my record because I didnt say anything about it on my AADSAS or TMDSAS app. Can schools see my misdemeanors if I got it non-dislcosed. Should I admit to it? What should i do?

I was going to put a bunch of s as a reply for the great laugh that your post gave me- then I realized you may be seriously asking and if that were the case- I don't want to be rude, one of these is much more appropriate:

 

[funktion]

This was from an AAMC news item (http://www.aamc.org/newsroom/reporter/july08/background.htm) about the criminal background checks being done by medical schools:

"The fact of the matter is that these checks are very thorough," Sondheimer said. "What we have found is that the checks were finding events where the applicant had gotten into trouble, but paid their fine or did their community service, and the case had been closed. So the applicant thought the case had been expunged, but in fact these checks are picking up those events, many of which were youthful indiscretions. Just because the case was closed doesn't mean it cannot be found. Schools need to have a committee to evaluate these kinds of hits, along with all the other eventualities."

I am sure dental schools that do check may use a similar system which could pick up things that were dismissed or expunged. That being said, legally I do not believe you have to disclose on applications things that were expunged or dismissed unless it specifies so, but you should definitely ask a lawyer or admissions person to be sure. In the end, honesty may be the best policy because if they find out you lied they will not be happy.

 

[doc toothache]

I have a couple of misdemeanors conviction and a felony arrest but it got dismissed and I have since got the felony expunged and my misdemeanors non-disclosed. I sent my application in already. I wonder if individual schools will ask me about my record because I didnt say anything about it on my AADSAS or TMDSAS app. Can schools see my misdemeanors if I got it non-dislcosed. Should I admit to it? What should i do?

Sound like to a "couple of misdemeanor convictions and a felony arrest" you want to add withholding crucial info on your background.

 

[Jim Halpert]

Im not sure about all the details but i know my friend had to fill out a form and apply for a dismissed charge to be erased from his record. Each person in the US only has one opportunity to use this "get out of jail free" card so if I were you I would look into this specifically for the felony charge.

 

[amalgamgrillz]

I have a couple of misdemeanors conviction and a felony arrest but it got dismissed and I have since got the felony expunged and my misdemeanors non-disclosed. I sent my application in already. I wonder if individual schools will ask me about my record because I didnt say anything about it on my AADSAS or TMDSAS app. Can schools see my misdemeanors if I got it non-dislcosed. Should I admit to it? What should i do?

Yes, you should admit to it. Dentistry, and the health-care field in general, is about honesty and integrity.

Plus, you could probably spin it to your advantage by telling them about "how you learned for the situation and have become a better person." If you get in, let us know..then i'll definitely go on a criminal rampage to increase my chances of admission.

 

[trixie2126]

Do they even ask on the AADSAS if you have been convicted of a felony or misdemeanor? I know midwestern's supplemental asked, but I don't rem if any of my other supplementals did or if the AADSAS did.

If they ask you about it directly, then tell the truth, but add in that it has been expunged. Better be safe than sorry!

Also, How long ago were these convictions? If it's been a while, and you have really proven yourself since then, I think it may be okay. It could also depend on what type of things you were convicted for though.

 

[BeBe01]

Well for one thing, I didnt withhold any information. I dont think AADSAS app said anything about misdemeanor conviction or anything in that nature. Plus, I did talk to a lawyer and paid him 3 g's to nondisclosed my file and expunge my arrest just for the reason of myself applying for dental school. In fact, I went in front of the judge when I got the expunction and asked him if the schools can see it and what should I tell them. The judge says by LAW, I can rightfully say that I never had a misdemeanor conviction after this nondisclosure and the expunction meant that the felony arrest never happened. So I am not being unethical if chose to withhold anything from the dental schools with my record. This all happened before I was 19 and now I am 25. All I am worried about is that the schools might find out my past. Even though I have the right to legally admit to no guilt, the d schools probably still look down on this as a bad first impression.

 

[slick90210]

To be completely honest I wouldn't say anything.
I dont think its worth risking it espicially since you already went to a judge and asked him/her about it.

 

[reapply2007]

some applications ask if you have ever been arrested or accused of criminal whatever. some applications ask if you have a criminal record. read the question-usually on a secondary application. answer honestly.

 

[BeBe01]

If I were to be "honest", than what would be the point in getting an expunction. Isnt that the reason why people get an expunction, is to not admit to what you have done, and a judge bascially pardons you for it, giving you the right to say you didnt? It just seems like either way is being "honest" but I can still be punished for it also.

 

[Lopyswine]

this is all silly talk.

just go to a service that does background checks. pay them the 50 bucks it takes, and have them run a background check on you. see what comes up.

if its all clean, then you you dont have to worry about mentioning anything. if stuff comes up, then you better begin drafting a letter to the dental explaining how you misunderstood the aadsas question.

believe me, a background check will be run on you once you get accepted, and if not now, then definitely before you'll ever get a dea number.

 

[slick90210]

this is all silly talk.

just go to a service that does background checks. pay them the 50 bucks it takes, and have them run a background check on you. see what comes up.

if its all clean, then you you dont have to worry about mentioning anything. if stuff comes up, then you better begin drafting a letter to the dental explaining how you misunderstood the aadsas question.

believe me, a background check will be run on you once you get accepted, and if not now, then definitely before you'll ever get a dea number.

I like this idea hahaha you are a smart man.

 

[atlanta213]

what about speeding ticket?

 

[Andrew324]

this is all silly talk.

just go to a service that does background checks. pay them the 50 bucks it takes, and have them run a background check on you. see what comes up.

if its all clean, then you you dont have to worry about mentioning anything. if stuff comes up, then you better begin drafting a letter to the dental explaining how you misunderstood the aadsas question.

I agree, this is the best thing to do

 

[JMJRDH1]

Well for one thing, I didnt withhold any information. I dont think AADSAS app said anything about misdemeanor conviction or anything in that nature. Plus, I did talk to a lawyer and paid him 3 g's to nondisclosed my file and expunge my arrest just for the reason of myself applying for dental school. In fact, I went in front of the judge when I got the expunction and asked him if the schools can see it and what should I tell them. The judge says by LAW, I can rightfully say that I never had a misdemeanor conviction after this nondisclosure and the expunction meant that the felony arrest never happened. So I am not being unethical if chose to withhold anything from the dental schools with my record. This all happened before I was 19 and now I am 25. All I am worried about is that the schools might find out my past. Even though I have the right to legally admit to no guilt, the d schools probably still look down on this as a bad first impression.

After reading this post, I do not think you should reveal anything.

 

[BeBe01]

When you get accepted, and the d schools ask for a background check, can you check see the actual background check before you send it off to the schools??? Because sometimes even if you get your record expunged, some independent vendors are slow to take it off your file and it still might show up. Basically, can I see the background record from that particular school's independent vendor so I can dispute whats on there before sending it off to the d schools???

 

[Dan3223]

You wouldnt be involved in the school's background check on you.... they do it on their own. If you were to actively try to get involved, I can only see that raising a big red flag and causing them to dig even deeper on you.

 

[BeBe01]

"An independent vendor will be identified by the Dental Branch to provide the criminal background screening. Students conditionally accepted for admission are responsible for requesting the report and paying the appropriate fee. Copies of the report shall be provided to UTDB and to the student conditionally accepted for admission. Students will be informed 1) of how to contact the independent vendor and notify UTDB of any challenge the accuracy or completeness of the report and 2) that the independent vendor was not involved in any decision that may adversely affect the student. All information will be separately maintained in a confidential file. The background check document will be destroyed upon graduation/separation from the institution. A validated background report found to be in conflict with responses by an applicant on the application may constitute grounds for withdrawal of an offer of admission."

It sounds like this school lets you know the vendor before you grant permission but I could be worng

 

[slick90210]

You know what, call a random school that you don't plan on applying to and ask them what they think about the situation.

 

[Fonz]

what about speeding ticket?

its an infraction not a misdemeanor. You dont need to mention it.

 

[BeBe01]

Thanks I really appreciate this negativity. I dont think every person here is a straight arrow like yourself, ever didnt anything wrong and stayed home and read books on friday and sat nights. This is a genuine concern of mine and many others. Otherwise there wouldnt be background checks. People like you have nothing positive to say but to try to assume like they know everyone and their situation.

 

[dentalalltheway]

Thanks I really appreciate this negativity. I dont think every person here is a straight arrow like yourself, ever didnt anything wrong and stayed home and read books on friday and sat nights. This is a genuine concern of mine and many others. Otherwise there wouldnt be background checks. People like you have nothing positive to say but to try to assume like they know everyone and their situation.

On the other hand most of us did make an early decision in life to resist those teenage urges which restrict your future and limit your potential. We kept ourselves from fighting with or following those peers who had nothing to lose because we were always mindful of our future.

 

[BeBe01]

who said i was a tough guy, thats just one of your assumptions again. I never admit to anything bad or SOOOO wrong. I said MISDEMEANORS. This forum is for advice and to encourage fellow predents to make it into dental school. I dont see why if this thread is BORING you than dont reply on this thread. Obviously its keepin your attention. haters. thanks to the others that gave me some good advice

 

[BeBe01]

thats what this country is all about. People that comes from all walks of life and not to be prejudice. Saying that means that one cant every screw up in life and have anther chance. Whoever here that can say they never committed a sin can cast the first stone.

 

[StayinNCali]

thats what this country is all about. People that comes from all walks of life and not to be prejudice. Saying that means that one cant every screw up in life and have anther chance. Whoever here that can say they never committed a sin can cast the first stone.

I totally agree with you until you make the huge leap from "a sin" to "misdemeanors and felony conviction". Everybody makes mistakes as you say- but that's where self control pays off: keeping those mistakes small and easily reversible.

 

[BeBe01]

I never said anything about felony conviction. Felony arrest but dismiss because wrong identity. If I said that I got caught stealing a shirt from banana republic when I was as a junior high school, should that restict me from being a dentist 8 years later because stealing is a misdemeanor and is not reversible. It stays on your record

 

[DrReo]

I never said anything about felony conviction. Felony arrest but dismiss because wrong identity. If I said that I got caught stealing a shirt from banana republic when I was as a junior high school, should that restict me from being a dentist 8 years later because stealing is a misdemeanor and is not reversible. It stays on your record

Juvy offense, <18

Man up to your crimes. Try and balance the equilibrum.

 

[BeBe01]

I dont know where you are from but over here 17 is considered adults=adult record. I mean yall with the negative comments, keep them. I wanted advice about my situation, not a bashing for my past. I am not the same person anymore. Obviously, one cant gang banging and try to balance a course load of science class and apply to dental school.

 

[DrReo]

I dont know where you are from but over here 17 is considered adults=adult record. I mean yall with the negative comments, keep them. I wanted advice about my situation, not a bashing for my past. I am not the same person anymore. Obviously, one cant gang banging and try to balance a course load of science class and apply to dental school.

Huh?

 

[OMFSWanna]

I actually agreee with sugar. I dont think you would brag bout it so much if this all were true 😳😳😳😳

 

[BeBe01]

Mr Pokemon, what i am trying to say is that I am a changed person and not in need of negativity for something that I did a long time ago. One cannot be a "tough guy" and go to school and get the grades to apply to dental school. thats what im saying

 

[blankguy]

To the OP,
talk to a lawyer.
But to keep things simple. If it has been expunged or erased don't mention it since legally speaking it is like nothing happened. If it is case closed mention it.
Also when did this transgressions occur? If it has been a while and nothing else has happened since schools may not put much weigh on these incidents.

 

[BeBe01]

nevermind, I wasnt bragging. i didnt tell details, only my situation. sorry if I seemed concerned about my application to dental. I thought this was a place to ask for help, but i guess my situation is so unbelievable. its not like I robbed a bank or kill someone.

 

[blankguy]

nevermind, I wasnt bragging. i didnt tell details, only my situation. sorry if I seemed concerned about my application to dental. I thought this was a place to ask for help, but i guess my situation is so unbelievable. its not like I robbed a bank or kill someone.

If it is a minor incident that you got sighted for and you mention it, you will be fine.

 

[DrReo]

Mr Pokemon, what i am trying to say is that I am a changed person and not in need of negativity for something that I did a long time ago. One cannot be a "tough guy" and go to school and get the grades to apply to dental school. thats what im saying

You should know before posting your situation on a public board that people will you/situation into pieces.

You've never met that one person who was extremely gifted and got away with too much?

 

[Lopyswine]

dude, i've already given you the answer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

go pay for a background check. see what it will say!!

 

[blankguy]

dude, i've already given you the answer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

go pay for a background check. see what it will say!!

I agree with this. Do a background check and then check with a lawyer if something serious does pop up.

 

[SugarNaCl]

BeBe... sorry about my previous posts. It is none of my business if you are telling the truth or lying, but I shouldn't have let my emotions get the best of me. We have all made mistakes... Lord knows I have made my share, so if I offended you with my remarks, I apologize. Your thread aggravated me because of the whole getting your convictions expunged so you didn't have to "be honest" I probably read too far into that and I think ethics is huge in dentistry and any health profession.

Just do what you need to do. Personally at this point I would wait until you get an interview and take it from there. If they ask you tell them (and don't act caught off guard). It is too late to change the app without making a big fuss. If you don't get in due to the record, put it on next years application. If they are off of your record, it really doesn't matter. The schools shouldn't find out. Godspeed. 😉

Someone pointed out to me that my posts previously in this thread could be seen as rude and antagonizing. Never my intent.

 

[whoispittsnogle]

Right on tough guy... LOL

If you did something so bad, you would be too ashamed to admit it in a forum... but the fact that you are defensive about it shows that likely I am right.

Either way, I'm done with this thread of yours. It is bordering on pathetic

I think some on here have committed crimes ... or are tough guys... I just don't buy that you are either. 🙁 Sorry.

why are you such a sporty little b--- made punk? i've never seen a troll like you with over 1k posts in ANY message boards...

and to the OP, aren't you a girl?

 

[SugarNaCl]

why are you such a sporty little b--- made punk? i've never seen a troll like you with over 1k posts in ANY message boards...

and to the OP, aren't you a girl?

See the post above yours, I apologized. Sorry if I offended you as well.

 

[armorshell]

why are you such a sporty little b--- made punk? i've never seen a troll like you with over 1k posts in ANY message boards...

and to the OP, aren't you a girl?

In the future, I would recommend not accusing the moderator staff of trolling, especially while using, albeit cloaked, foul language.