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Hello,
I'm studying to be a CPhT and I'll be able to graduate/work before I enter college in September to help pay for tuition and other expenses.

I was wondering if working as a CPhT is manageable while being a full time student at university. There's plenty of CVS and private pharmacies near my school, I've already checked out one that has a pharmacy.

also, will this be beneficial towards the long-run? How big of a factor do Pharmacy schools put into having experience in the pharmacy field?


edit: I'm unclear about this whole pharmacy school situation, are people getting their B.S. in a four-year AND then applying out to pharmacy school? Or is it 2 years, then apply to a pre-pharm program?

thanks--
 
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"Jerking"...really now?
 
The name could be a reference to a type of dance...
 
Hello,
I'm studying to be a CPhT and I'll be able to graduate/work before I enter college in September to help pay for tuition and other expenses.

I was wondering if working as a CPhT is manageable while being a full time student at university. There's plenty of CVS and private pharmacies near my school, I've already checked out one that has a pharmacy.

also, will this be beneficial towards the long-run? How big of a factor do Pharmacy schools put into having experience in the pharmacy field?


edit: I'm unclear about this whole pharmacy school situation, are people getting their B.S. in a four-year AND then applying out to pharmacy school? Or is it 2 years, then apply to a pre-pharm program?

thanks--

Schools are slowly moving to requiring the B.S. then applying to pharmacy school. Others are just requiring the pre-requisites, then apply to pharmacy school.

I'm hoping that pharmacy schools are moving towards having experience in a pharmacy as a requirement for admission. I'm getting sick of this stuff of people first setting foot in a pharmacy during their IPEs. Shouldn't even need to have a portion of a class devoted to SIG codes, and teaspoon/ml conversions, ounce/gram conversions.
 
Hello,
I'm studying to be a CPhT and I'll be able to graduate/work before I enter college in September to help pay for tuition and other expenses.

I was wondering if working as a CPhT is manageable while being a full time student at university. There's plenty of CVS and private pharmacies near my school, I've already checked out one that has a pharmacy.

also, will this be beneficial towards the long-run? How big of a factor do Pharmacy schools put into having experience in the pharmacy field?


edit: I'm unclear about this whole pharmacy school situation, are people getting their B.S. in a four-year AND then applying out to pharmacy school? Or is it 2 years, then apply to a pre-pharm program?

thanks--

Many schools are moving into the 2+4 mode (2 pre-reqs, 4 years of pharm). You can get a Bachelors and then apply to pharmacy school, but the Bachelors is not necessary if you do well in pre-reqs. Bachelors does help.
 
Hello,
I'm studying to be a CPhT and I'll be able to graduate/work before I enter college in September to help pay for tuition and other expenses.

I was wondering if working as a CPhT is manageable while being a full time student at university. There's plenty of CVS and private pharmacies near my school, I've already checked out one that has a pharmacy.

also, will this be beneficial towards the long-run? How big of a factor do Pharmacy schools put into having experience in the pharmacy field?


edit: I'm unclear about this whole pharmacy school situation, are people getting their B.S. in a four-year AND then applying out to pharmacy school? Or is it 2 years, then apply to a pre-pharm program?

thanks--

also, will this be beneficial towards the long-run? How big of a factor do Pharmacy schools put into having experience in the pharmacy field?
Depends on the school, but many schools would like you to have experience in the field before applying. Look at it this way: Person A has no experience in the field of pharmacy, Person B has some experience in the field of pharmacy by working as a pharm tech or volunteer. Which person do YOU think the SCHOOL will think is more serious about becoming a pharmacist. In addition, a lot of schools require a letter of recommendation from a pharmacist as part of the application process.

In addition, I think gaining experience in the field would be great because it gives you an idea of the type of pharmacy you want to go into. Maybe you'll love retail, or maybe you'll hate it and want to do something else.

Edit: also try not to overstress yourself, if you feel you can't handle the workload then DO NOT work during the school year, save that for summer or something instead. There are also many places that accept volunteer positions that only need to volunteer a few hours a week

edit: I'm unclear about this whole pharmacy school situation, are people getting their B.S. in a four-year AND then applying out to pharmacy school? Or is it 2 years, then apply to a pre-pharm program?
A pre-pharmacy program typically means that you enroll from HS and enter the college program. You complete a list of courses as pre-requisites and as long as you meet GPA and complete their application/interview process correctly you'll continue through to pharm school without needing to get a degree in undergrad. However, the caveat to this is that if you do poorly in undergrad and don't meet your requirements, you are either forced to get a degree you may not want or to drop out of the program. The advantage of the program is to get you out of grad school earlier.

On the other hand, getting a BS first then applying to pharmacy school gives you more flexibility. You will be able to, in my opinion, find work more easily with a BS under your belt and can work while applying to pharm school n such. Getting a BS means that you dont have to choose your pharm school right then and there, it means you can ultimately 'decide' (depending on your grades) what pharm school you want to go to. Downfall? More time spent in undergrad and grad and more money spent.

Be very careful if you decide to go through with the pre-pharm program. Look at your flexibility to get out of the program, if your school's credits will be easily transferable to another institution or will fit the pre-reqs of another institution. Going off what I've seen from my pre-pharm program, the people who applied to other pharm schools out of the program had a much harder time and ended up doing more work.

Edit: There are a lot of Pharm Schools that require a BS...so don't enter a pre-pharm program and just drop halfway through because you want to go to another pharm school. You'll either need to get the BS or complete the program.
 
Schools are slowly moving to requiring the B.S. then applying to pharmacy school. Others are just requiring the pre-requisites, then apply to pharmacy school.

I'm hoping that pharmacy schools are moving towards having experience in a pharmacy as a requirement for admission. I'm getting sick of this stuff of people first setting foot in a pharmacy during their IPEs. Shouldn't even need to have a portion of a class devoted to SIG codes, and teaspoon/ml conversions, ounce/gram conversions.

Going on that same line of logic, everyone graduating from pharmacy school should be required to do a PGY1 residency. Oh, but like jobs in a pharmacy, there aren't enough for everyone. Not everyone has the opportunity to get any experience in a pharmacy where they would be learning SIG codes, which are different for each pharmacy, and conversions. This is why you also have other mundane courses like anatomy, biochem, etc. They need to know everyone is on the same level after your first year of pharmacy school. I doubt you will find a program out there that doesn't have a class that covers that in some small way.
 
While it is difficult to work and go to school full time, I have found it manageable if you have the drive and desire.

I've been able to get in 30 hours per week in at CVS while taking a full course-load for my full four years of college.

Don't expect to be a part of the party scene though, you'll quickly find that something has to give.
 
Thank you all for your inputs!
although I'm not sure who to believe about the whole B.S./Undergrad then applying to pharm school... two people said completely different things.

To DASicari: What did you consider "full course-load"?
I plan to have 14 units, but I feel that I should add one more course. I'll be taking Calculus, Microeconomics, and Psychology. No english/science courses yet as the university isn't offering any 1b courses during fall, but only during winter.

edit: How competitive are CA pharm schools compared to out-of-state schools that require the PCAT?

and yes, my name is referring to the dance.
Sorry, i wasn't able to create a more creative name...
 
I was able to handle a course load of 16 credits. Are you starting out as a freshman in college? If so, I would start off by only working during the weekends, maybe just one day, and increase from there if you feel you can get in enough time for studying.

After all, your grades will be much more important and you can also work more during the summer or holiday breaks.
 
Going on that same line of logic, everyone graduating from pharmacy school should be required to do a PGY1 residency. Oh, but like jobs in a pharmacy, there aren't enough for everyone. Not everyone has the opportunity to get any experience in a pharmacy where they would be learning SIG codes, which are different for each pharmacy, and conversions. This is why you also have other mundane courses like anatomy, biochem, etc. They need to know everyone is on the same level after your first year of pharmacy school. I doubt you will find a program out there that doesn't have a class that covers that in some small way.

I know, but SIG codes don't seem like something necessary to have a lecture on. They could just upload the information onto something like Blackboard, or for a primitive school give out packets, and then test them on it.
 
I know, but SIG codes don't seem like something necessary to have a lecture on. They could just upload the information onto something like Blackboard, or for a primitive school give out packets, and then test them on it.

I completely agree that SIG codes are a waste of time. I had plenty of lectures that I wish I didn't have to sit through because they were either repeating something already lectured on and/or it was a waste of time. I think sometimes if they can't come up with anything better, they just fill the time with something because your butt has to be in a seat for a specified amount of hours.

And yes, to the OP, don't get caught up in working too much. See if you can borrow from family or take out a little extra to help fill the gaps until you know you can handle working and school. Your grades are way more important than whatever job you may get. The brass ring is graduating as a PharmD and you don't want to jeopardize that future.
 
Don't expect to be a part of the party scene though, you'll quickly find that something has to give.

Like sleep and social functions! :meanie:

For two semesters, I did 17 hours and 30 hours at work (Physics, Gen Chem, and Calculus, plus a humanities of some kind). I found it's doable -- but I don't like doing it.

I do like my 40 hour job, but about 8-10 credit hours is about all I can handle (depending on the classes themselves) on top of it. I don't really have the choice of borrowing from family, and I think it's worth it (for many reasons - mostly introspective) to not go into debt for the prereqs - YMMV. This is what I'm doing currently.

However, when I started, I had somewhere between 14 and 16 credit hours, plus about 20 hours a week. I would suggest at least one year of classes where you gauge what YOU can handle and take it a little easier than you think you need to. Keep in mind, this is a long-term goal, not a 100 m dash, so pick a schedule you can sustain.
 
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