Worst Schools of Optometry

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All right, everyone's always going on about "What's the best [this]?" and "Which is the top [that]?" so I thought I'd ask, which are among the worst colleges of optometry in the United States (feel free to include the one in Puerto Rico, if you wish)? Of course, this is a subjectively-answered question — and I do expect the discussion will incorporate the comments of a few "disgruntled students" — but, if nothing else, we should unearth what some schools lack that others do not.

Oh, let's try to keep from flaming this thread into absurdity...

Thanks much.
 
Nothing good will come of this thread-- it should be closed.
 
Nothing good will come of this thread-- it should be closed.

Is this the breadth of the confidence we have in people's ability to interact? Not one post — let alone a hostile one — and advocacy of altogether closing the thread.

The "point" is maybe to bring up some concerns about what particular schools lack. Very often, people ask about "best this" and "best that," and nothing ever really comes out. Perhaps, by indicating a few negative points (so-and-so has a mediocre clinic, poor pass-rates, etc.) people will be better able to decide which schools are right for them. If it doesn't work, fine, but preemption to shut down the discussion before it's even begun to take place, in my view, is uncalled for.
 
I do see the potential of chaos happening in this thread, but I too, am curious about what each school lacks. 😳 I'd admit, "Worst Schools of Optometry" as a subject title is rather provocative, perhaps you should change it to something milder, and less likely to cause hostile "shut this thread" responses.

Since you are the OP, why don't you give us an example of a few negative points?
 
I do see the potential of chaos happening in this thread, but I too, am curious about what each school lacks. 😳 I'd admit, "Worst Schools of Optometry" as a subject title is rather provocative, perhaps you should change it to something milder, and less likely to cause hostile "shut this thread" responses.

Since you are the OP, why don't you give us an example of a few negative points?

I think I already gave an example, but, again, I'd consider an appropriate response something along the lines, "I've found the clinic at [this school] to lack patient diversity," or, "It seems [this one] has a low board–pass-rate of first-time examinees," or, "The atmosphere at [the school I went to] was too [whatever] for my liking." We're talking about colleges of optometry; I don't see (ha) anyone naturally becoming hostile or rude as if we were debating football teams.
 
I think I already gave an example, but, again, I'd consider an appropriate response something along the lines, "I've found the clinic at [this school] to lack patient diversity," or, "It seems [this one] has a low board–pass-rate of first-time examinees," or, "The atmosphere at [the school I went to] was too [whatever] for my liking." We're talking about colleges of optometry; I don't see (ha) anyone naturally becoming hostile or rude as if we were debating football teams.

Are you kidding? You think that people have more loyalties towards sports teams than schools that they have poured thousands of dollars and countless hours into? That is ludicrous.

The reason I suggested the thread being closed is that MOST people are not going to bash their own schools or alma maters publicly, knowing that administrators and many other people read these forums. With that said, if the opinions are coming from people who have never attended the school they are claiming is the "worst" in some aspect, how valid are those opinions? Not at all.

Unless the statements are completely objective (which would be based on numbers that are pretty easily accessible), anything said would be debatable-- just like the threads asking for the best schools.
 
Are you kidding? You think that people have more loyalties towards sports teams than schools that they have poured thousands of dollars and countless hours into? That is ludicrous.

The reason I suggested the thread being closed is that MOST people are not going to bash their own schools or alma maters publicly, knowing that administrators and many other people read these forums. With that said, if the opinions are coming from people who have never attended the school they are claiming is the "worst" in some aspect, how valid are those opinions? Not at all.

Unless the statements are completely objective (which would be based on numbers that are pretty easily accessible), anything said would be debatable-- just like the threads asking for the best schools.

Yes, I do. Of course, it depends on the person, but, in my experience, people can be fanatical about sports teams, yet rather rational about their alma maters: Opinions tend to be "I paid them, and they gave me an education." Of course, there are those who fit the stereotype of walking around in school sweatshirts and rooting for the college football team (back to sports), but, by and large, people seem willing to be honest about their experiences.

Regarding administrators' frequenting this forum, I'm not sure how often it happens. As well, I'm not sure, if one were to read a thread, of the length to which he or she would go to uncover the identity of a poster. I'm even less confident any concrete repercussion would be delivered unto an offending party, were he or she named.

As I implied, "negative" opinions probably wouldn't come from people not personally acquainted with a school.

Of course, anything said would be debatable. We're not trying to write an encyclopaedia, here, though — just to engage in conversation.

Anyway, it's been a couple of days, now, and no one's replied to the thread (other than to comment on its very existence); so, I'll go ahead and consider my attempt to be a lukewarm failure.
 
Are you kidding? You think that people have more loyalties towards sports teams than schools that they have poured thousands of dollars and countless hours into? That is ludicrous.

The reason I suggested the thread being closed is that MOST people are not going to bash their own schools or alma maters publicly, knowing that administrators and many other people read these forums. With that said, if the opinions are coming from people who have never attended the school they are claiming is the "worst" in some aspect, how valid are those opinions? Not at all.

Unless the statements are completely objective (which would be based on numbers that are pretty easily accessible), anything said would be debatable-- just like the threads asking for the best schools.

I for one am more fanatical about my sports teams than my optometry school or even my undergraduate and I am NOT a fanatical sports fan. (at least, I've never painted my face with my team colors and I don't have any memorabilia hanging on the walls of my house or office.)

But as to the intent of this thread, I don't think that there is any "worst" or "best" optometry school. The schools affiliated with state universities SEEM to have better established research departments and graduate programs but in terms of a clinical experience, every school will prepare you adequately to pass board exams and to enter practice. There is no "Harvard" school of optometry.

So when considering which school to attend, you have to determine which school is best FOR YOU. Let's pretend for a second that SUNY IS in fact the "Harvard" of optometry schools. (I went to SUNY, so there. I"m using SUNY as the example)

But let's say that you as a student hate big cities. Well, then SUNY may not be the best choice for you even if it is the Harvard of optometry schools.
 
My subjective opinion:

I've had 4th year doing rotations from UHCO, SCCO, PCO, UAB, SCO, UMSL, UCB, & NSUCO. Saw 8-10 from each school.

In general, I found SCO & UAB were most knowledgable on arrival.
UMSL & SCCO seemed to have the best chiarside manner.
NSUCO had the best clinical skills/worked more idenpendently
UCB students came off as smart, but trouble applying it to patient care (eggheads)

The majority did fine by the end of the rotation, but there were definite trends.

I still strongly believe that the 3 new schools will replace Puerto Rico as the fall-back choice for those not accepted anywhere else.

Just like NOVA initially, I'd avoid any of the 3 new schools until they've graduated a few classes. Let someone else be the guinea pig. You will be viewed by a big % of your peers as someone who shouldn't have bee accepted anywhere.
 
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Berkley is by far the worst.. Would any of you want to be treated by a nerdy optometrist with no communication skills or personality? I kid I kid!!
 
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