worth a GRE retake?

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My application was recently verified, but my 3rd letter writer has been ill and won't have his letter in for another week or so. Since this buys me some time before my apps are reviewed, I have been contemplating a GRE retake.

I didn't take any timed practice tests beforehand and ended up running out of time on every section. If I took it again, I think I'd score at least fifty to a hundred points better on both Q & V and around 4.5 on AW.


Current #'s:
V 560
Q 630
AW 3.5

SOPHAS GPA: 3.35 overall, with 3.5 at my undergrad institution

I'm applying to Emory, Yale, BU, Tulane, UW, and GW for Global/International Health... and want/need as much funding as possible.


Worth a retake?
 
My application was recently verified, but my 3rd letter writer has been ill and won't have his letter in for another week or so. Since this buys me some time before my apps are reviewed, I have been contemplating a GRE retake.

I didn't take any timed practice tests beforehand and ended up running out of time on every section. If I took it again, I think I'd score at least fifty to a hundred points better on both Q & V and around 4.5 on AW.


Current #'s:
V 560
Q 630
AW 3.5

SOPHAS GPA: 3.35 overall, with 3.5 at my undergrad institution

I'm applying to Emory, Yale, BU, Tulane, UW, and GW for Global/International Health... and want/need as much funding as possible.


Worth a retake?

A re-take can't hurt but the ETS takes about a month to report the GRE score, which means that it'll reach the colleges around the end of February/early March if you take the test ASAP. By that time, your chance of getting any sort of non-loan funding is very very low, I'd think.

You should definitely read through the Fall 2010 Acceptances thread to see what your chances are with the stats you have right now. Hopefully you have some experiences and volunteering to strengthen your app.
 
Thanks for the insight, swaffles. I hadn't realized that it could take up to a month for the scores to reach the schools. I do have great rec letters, a strong personal statement, a fair number of leadership experiences, interesting public health experience, and lots of academic honors to buoy the low GPA. Having the GRE score affect my funding chances is what worries me, especially since my apps are going out late.

I am assuming that some funding will be redistributed around Feb/March when the first wave of accepted students start declining spots. Has anyone gotten additional funding or a late notice of acceptance after a GRE retake? For those that received scholarships, what score range did you need?
 
I agree with swaffles...it's too late in the game to retake the GRE. I also don't feel your GRE scores are particularly bad or will restrict you in any way from gaining admission.

Ideally you should have submitted your applications earlier to give yourself the best chance for funding, but I still think you have a chance at receiving funding from some schools.

In the instance that you gain admittance to schools, but do not receive any funding...are you prepared to reapply (early) next cycle, or will you still attend this fall?

-waystinthyme
 
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I agree with swaffles...it's too late in the game to retake the GRE. I also don't feel your GRE scores are particularly bad or will restrict you in any way from gaining admission.

Ideally you should have submitted your applications earlier to give yourself the best chance for funding, but I still think you have a chance at receiving funding from some schools.

In the instance that you gain admittance to schools, but do not receive any funding...are you prepared to reapply (early) next cycle, or will you still attend this fall?

-waystinthyme


I agree with what has been said. Unless your main goal is to retake the GRE to use this (potentially...albeit uncertainly) 'better' score in your future endeavors, and do not want to deal w/ the god-awful new version of the exam that will come out in August, then I would agree w/ your reasoning; and would advise you to study a few months for it prior to retaking....since time constraints are things you typically can't work-out in a matter of a week....I mean...unless you are good at timed exams to begin w/ and you simply had a bad experience on test day the first time around. Otherwise, you're GRE score is only ONE part of your app which will be equally considered to your purportedly excellent RECs, extensive experience, and a panoply of honors--in combination w/ a decent GPA (not the best GPA in the universe, but perfectly acceptable for most competitive MPH /PhD programs).

I'm also pretty certain that by the time your new GRE scores, not only reach the schools, but also reach SOPHAS-- by the time they are validated, uploaded, sent, and compiled w/ your original application, most of your schools will have already reviewed your app, probably won't see your scores, probably won't even consider them as part of their eval for funding...and frankly you probably aren't certain how they will use your re-take GRE scores in the first place. Do they average them out? Do they take your best sections? Do they consider only your most recent scores? You won't really know. And, if you achieve only a modicum of improvement, in such a case, your GRE score probably will do little to affect their decision in the first place.

My advice: Send a 'Get-Well' card to your REF, open up a good bottle of brew, down the hatch, and just chilllllll. You'll be good to go. Also, unless you live in the boonies, finding a test-taking center w/ available seats will be difficult in a weeks time. I think they advise people to register no later than a month prior to your intended exam date. So, good luck w/ this if you find a testing center that can accommodate you in a weeks time. If I was in your shoes, I wouldn't be able to pull off such a feat, given where I live.

Good luck!
 
You are right in some places it it difficult to register for the GRE so late. But where I live in the South, there are always empty seats. I registered for my exam about a week before I took it.
 
You are right in some places it it difficult to register for the GRE so late. But where I live in the South, there are always empty seats. I registered for my exam about a week before I took it.


Yup, thats right. Thats why I said that if he lived where I do (a city), hell would freeze over before he would be able to secure a seat in a weeks time lol.
 
yes, it will take several weeks to send an official score report. But, you could take a screen print of your instant results and fax it in with a cover letter to update your file.

I would guess that your current numbers are not very compelling for grant aid. Higher is always better.
 
yes, it will take several weeks to send an official score report. But, you could take a screen print of your instant results and fax it in with a cover letter to update your file.

I would guess that your current numbers are not very compelling for grant aid. Higher is always better.

it's very unlikely that the OP will be able to take a printscreen and fax instant score results at the testing center...

-waystinthyme
 
it's very unlikely that the OP will be able to take a printscreen and fax instant score results at the testing center...

-waystinthyme

Lol, yeah I was confused about that. My testing center was very strict about what you can do. The computer is programmed in a way that will allow you to perform only certain functions using your mouse / keyboard. Printing a screen shot is not one of them lol. Not to mention the fact that most schools will not accept anything faxed, since the score screen is a blank white screen with two numbers on it (your v schore and q score).
 
I took the GRE over at the advice of an admissions director. I am so glad that I did. It took ETS 10 days to send out my scores. I actually didn't get my scores in the mail or online until after they were sent out.

In my case, all the schools I applied to but one just held my application for review until the new scores came in. However, my GRE scores were actually bad, yours are not. I realize you may not be happy with them, but my point is the admission's officers may not be as sympathetic as they were to me. My applications were also complete before the deadlines so I think makes it easier.
 
Thanks for the feedback, everyone! SOPHAS mailed my application 2/2, the 3rd letter was submitted 2/4, and almost all of the schools have sent an "app received" e-mail.

I called a few schools and was told not to bother with a GRE retake. They said my scores are right around average for their admits... which was surprising, since most people that post on this forum seem to have scores that are higher than mine. The consensus seemed to be that applicants should aim for 1100+ if they desire funding and that allocations are heavily dependent on perceived potential to contribute to the field. As you guys have mentioned, there's also a chance that a decision will be made before my updated scores filter down to the individual departments.

@waystinthyme: I don't think it'd be worth it to delay graduate school for another year unless the loans are truly unmanageable. My timing mistakes that will probably limit my funding, so I'll just need to be resourceful.

@ToxMan1: I'm hopeful that my app will be good enough for at least one admit, but I didn't mean to make it sound like my application was earth-shattering or anything. I'll post more details about my app on the "Admitted" thread if I start receiving acceptances. I'm surprised that it's so difficult to get a seat for the GRE in your city, though - there are seats available almost every day for the next 3 months where I live (also in a city).
 
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