Would you agree with this in regards to Waitlist movement?

[GoWiththeFlo]

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Would you agree with this statement?

The 2010-2011 Waitlists have "overall" moved very little. Sure, some waitlists have moved some but others have not moved at all. Of the one's that have moved, seems less than in years past.

So if you agree, why is the WL movement this year less than in years past? (no specific schools in mind, but overall)

 

[flatearth22]

The reason for the majority of waitlists moving is because applicants hold multiple acceptances but can only matriculate at one place. When they withdraw their acceptance from their other schools those spots get filled up from the waitlist.

If waitlists appear to be moving less this year it could be that applicants who have at least one acceptance aren't getting many more acceptances. This leads to less withdrawals and less movement.

Why are applicants who do get in at least one place getting fewer acceptances overall than before? Could be that schools are more aggressive doing yield protect by only trying to admit students that they are pretty sure will matriculate there (ie - safety schools rejecting students "too good" for them).

 

[Maxwell7301]

I would mostly agree with that. Most schools seem to have minimal waitlist movement, and it looks like this past cycle hasn't been kind to a lot of people.

That said, the SUNY Buffalo waitlist is great, as always. This might be the best year ever, as far as acceptances for SDN users go.

Check out the first page or two, then go to the end.🙂

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=786024

 

[Supisak]

Again, is the assumption that SDN represents a LARGE percent of applicants to medical school. One of the things I dislike about this community is the arrogance that it can sometimes put forward....

that being said, I would venture that only about 10% of all applicants are members of SDN and even less actually post what is going on with their app cycles, so DO NOT judge over all waitlist movement by what is reported on SDN, your n value is not high enough to note any thing of significant value.

And for the love of all that is HOLY please stop saying "in regards to", it is grammatically incorrect and if you want to sound learned please stop murdering the language!

cheers!

 

[RogueUnicorn]

Would you agree with this statement?

The 2010-2011 Waitlists have "overall" moved very little. Sure, some waitlists have moved some but others have not moved at all. Of the one's that have moved, seems less than in years past.

So if you agree, why is the WL movement this year less than in years past? (no specific schools in mind, but overall)

sounds like an mcat vr question

 

[Narmerguy]

Again, is the assumption that SDN represents a LARGE percent of applicants to medical school. One of the things I dislike about this community is the arrogance that it can sometimes put forward....

that being said, I would venture that only about 10% of all applicants are members of SDN and even less actually post what is going on with their app cycles, so DO NOT judge over all waitlist movement by what is reported on SDN, your n value is not high enough to note any thing of significant value.

And for the love of all that is HOLY please stop saying "in regards to", it is grammatically incorrect and if you want to sound learned please stop murdering the language!

cheers!

Odd of you to complain about arrogance and then rant about people's grammar on an online forum.

Anyway, remembering that there are over 40,000 applicants every year, I highly doubt SDN even represents 10% of applicants. I somewhat agree that there is an unfortunate level of arrogance on this forum, but, I'm not sure if expecting us to be able to comment on waitlist movement is really arrogance? You can reasonably assume that here we have a unique collection of applicants to many schools and entire threads devoted to each school where they discuss WL movement, etc. Not only that, but we have archived previous cycles movements as well. Thus, if any applicant group has knowledge of the differences in WL movement, this is probably the best save a specific group with inside information on a school (which many of our posters have).

That said, WL movement is hard to quantify because though we may feel as though we are a representative sample of applicants at various schools, we most likely aren't and thus there is probably an uneven distribution of members that are even on the waitlist for these schools to begin with. Plus, even if you're on the waitlist, we usually don't have a clue what our relative "position" on the waitlist is so even if it seems like a bunch of us are "moving through", we don't know if we're just the first few or if the school is already deep within the list.

 

[Ursa]

Again, is the assumption that SDN represents a LARGE percent of applicants to medical school. One of the things I dislike about this community is the arrogance that it can sometimes put forward....

that being said, I would venture that only about 10% of all applicants are members of SDN and even less actually post what is going on with their app cycles, so DO NOT judge over all waitlist movement by what is reported on SDN, your n value is not high enough to note any thing of significant value.

And for the love of all that is HOLY please stop saying "in regards to", it is grammatically incorrect and if you want to sound learned please stop murdering the language!

cheers!

chill out brah, you don't have to be a d***

 

[Tapepsi]

Well in regards to the application cycle, you have to also remember that not everyone who gets off the waitlist posts it on SDN even if they are a member.

 

[Supisak]

It's not arrogance to wish people used proper grammar, is it? Its more like a dream of mine,

and I am chill, brah....(not really comfortable with that term, its well after my generation...more like dude for me, and does using "brah" imply a "poke in the chest" type gesture? eveytime I hear it I think of a 20 something getting tazed....funny)

just killin time at the office......stirring the pot, waiting for school to start!

and thanks to Tapepsi for the italics.....also duly noted......

 

[RookTookIt]

Its not arrogance to wish people used proper grammar, its more like a dream of mine,
and I am chill, bro....(not really comfortable with that term, its well after my generation...more like dude for me) just killin time at the office......stirring the pot waiting for school to start!

Figure out the difference between its and it's before commenting on other people's grammar.

 

[NickNaylor]

Its not arrogance to wish people used proper grammar, its more like a dream of mine,
and I am chill, bro....(not really comfortable with that term, its well after my generation...more like dude for me) just killin time at the office......stirring the pot waiting for school to start!

Y u mad tho?????

 

[RogueUnicorn]

Figure out the difference between its and it's before commenting on other people's grammar.

gramps got pwnd

 

[Narmerguy]

Y u mad tho?????

You forgot .jpg

 

[Supisak]

How exciting, my first SDN doneybrook!
and my idol NickNaylor showed, Nick I needed you in a flatearth post, where were you???

I edited my post to late, did catch that its, and there are more there if you look (its called irony : )

and I am not mad, like I said, just stirring the pot a bit on a borish Friday afternoon.

and I can accept a shot at "gramps", I am bit old for medical school.

 

[RogueUnicorn]

How exciting, my first SDN doneybrook!
and my idol NickNaylor showed, Nick I needed you in a flatearth post, where were you???

I edited my post to late, did catch that its, and there are more there if you look (its called irony : )

and I am not mad, like I said, just stirring the pot a bit on a borish Friday afternoon.

and I can accept a shot at "gramps", I am bit old for medical school.

if it's meant to be ironic, why did you fix it daddy-o

 

[Supisak]

the irony was in the signature,
nice reference on the daddy-o - guess i should get used to that?

 

[Narmerguy]

Probably not the thread the OP will expect when he reads this again...

 

[Ursa]

And to the OP (attempting to stay on topic), I was on 3 WL's, and have been accepted off of 2 of them. But, as I said in another post, n=1.

 

[RogueUnicorn]

the irony was in the signature,
nice reference on the daddy-o - guess i should get used to that?

😉

 

[iniquus]

How exciting, my first SDN doneybrook!
and my idol NickNaylor showed, Nick I needed you in a flatearth post, where were you???

I edited my post to late, did catch that its, and there are more there if you look (its called irony : )

and I am not mad, like I said, just stirring the pot a bit on a borish Friday afternoon.

and I can accept a shot at "gramps", I am bit old for medical school.

Want me to build a statue of Nick for you to worship instead of vacuum sucking up to him in every thread?

 

[Longshanks]

It's not arrogance to wish people used proper grammar, is it? Its more like a dream of mine,

and I am chill, brah....(not really comfortable with that term, its well after my generation...more like dude for me, and does using "brah" imply a "poke in the chest" type gesture? eveytime I hear it I think of a 20 something getting tazed....funny)

just killin time at the office......stirring the pot, waiting for school to start!

and thanks to Tapepsi for the italics.....also duly noted......

Before pouncing on people for their grammar and being holier-than-thou, you may first need to learn how to:
-spell correctly
-how to properly use an ellipsis (and understanding what an ellipsis is)
-understanding "it's" versus "its"
-how to use exclamation points without sounding schizophrenic

 

[ucfknight407]

Well one of the schools I was hoping to get into used to move around 20 people. When I called recently, they said they have moved 0 so far.

The only other school I'm still on waitlist at would only say they have had minimal movement. These are two schools I have really wanted from the get go. So it's been a bad year for me personally.

That said, one school I was waitlisted at did accept me but that school is known for lots of movement.

 

[GoWiththeFlo]

I would appreciate it very much if we could stay on topic, thank you.

 

[Narmerguy]

I would appreciate it very much if we could stay on topic, thank you.

Ah comeon man, can't you just go with the flow a bit? 😀

 

[GoWiththeFlo]

Just wanted to stay on topic, not interested in hearing "personal" attacks, perhaps you could just send that person a PM rather than post on this thread

Anyway.......my thought was that there are more applicants this year than ever before (just a guess, no facts) and people are applying to more schools than in previous years.

 

[RookTookIt]

Anyway.......my thought was that there are more applicants this year than ever before (just a guess, no facts) and people are applying to more schools than in previous years.

Don't know about the number of schools that each applicant applied to, but the total number of applicants has been pretty steady for the past few years.

I think it's more likely that people applied to fewer schools (due to the bad economy) which led to fewer multiple acceptances and therefore less waitlist movement.

 

[RogueUnicorn]

i've heard from a couple of adcoms that mcat scores of applicants are apparently higher than ever. perhaps this contributed to this apparent phenomenon.

 

[Longshanks]

Just wanted to stay on topic, not interested in hearing "personal" attacks, perhaps you could just send that person a PM rather than post on this thread

Anyway.......my thought was that there are more applicants this year than ever before (just a guess, no facts) and people are applying to more schools than in previous years.

Welcome to SDN, you must be new here. Cafeteria is on the second floor, and I have a ticket to the swimming pool on the fourth floor you can buy.

 

[alwaysaangel]

Just wanted to stay on topic, not interested in hearing "personal" attacks, perhaps you could just send that person a PM rather than post on this thread

Anyway.......my thought was that there are more applicants this year than ever before (just a guess, no facts) and people are applying to more schools than in previous years.

I doubt there was a significant jump in applicants this year. And applying to more schools would yield more multiple acceptances and MORE wait list movement. Not less.

I was enjoying the grammar Nazis.

 

[NickNaylor]

Welcome to SDN, you must be new here. Cafeteria is on the second floor, and I have a ticket to the swimming pool on the fourth floor you can buy.

How much for the ticket?

 

[Narmerguy]

Just wanted to stay on topic, not interested in hearing "personal" attacks, perhaps you could just send that person a PM rather than post on this thread

Anyway.......my thought was that there are more applicants this year than ever before (just a guess, no facts) and people are applying to more schools than in previous years.

Well there was more this year than ever before but that represents 500 more this year than 5 years ago. I don't think the answer is really an uptick in the # of applicants. It's important to remember that you're asking for an entirely subjective analysis and none of us really have a view point that justifies an answer that will be useful for you. If you could get an adcom to respond perhaps that might help.

I suppose we may have better applicants than ever before, but since the spots at schools are relatively static that should still produce the same number getting waitlisted, rejected, etc.

Schools received 580,000 applications this past cycle vs. 563,000 applications the year before. So, it seems like there are certainly more total applications being filed with only a couple hundred more being accepted between the two years. I think this is really all just subjective and hard to tell. If I had to make a decision, I would say it is similar movement to the year before.

 

[patel2]

Would you agree with this statement?

The 2010-2011 Waitlists have "overall" moved very little. Sure, some waitlists have moved some but others have not moved at all. Of the one's that have moved, seems less than in years past.

So if you agree, why is the WL movement this year less than in years past? (no specific schools in mind, but overall)

I feel it is less WL movement this year than in the past...acceptances are harder to come by, less people have as many choices and the average number of acceptances a person had pre-May 15 is perhaps less than in the past year.

But then again who knows if any of this is true? SDN is like <5% of applicants, and I've seen some people get off WLs at schools where SDN has not noted any movement from.