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Hey guys,
I am in my freshman year and am just planning ahead and had a few questions on what you would regard as good ECs.
I am going to be volunteering at a hospital in the ER in a few days. I plan to stay there for my full undergrad.
I calculated that I will have around 500 - 800 hours of volunteering and most likely a leadership position by that time.
I also want to shadow a variety of physicians soon. Do you think that it is unnecessary to shadow for a lot hours (i.e. 300 - 400 hours)
I am also planning to take part in an executive position in a university organization called the Biology & Chemistry Student Association. I will be the technical guy who will take care of the website, make sure emails are sent out to other club members about upcoming events. Since I will be an executive I will also have to be a part of the many meeting and events that the BCSA decides to put on. This will hopefully also go on until I finish my undergrad.
I will probably also tutor for a little bit in between classes sometime in the next year.
So while I may not have a lot of ECs, I think I have quality in some aspects. Can you guys tell me what I am missing or if I made any poor choices picking out my ECs.
Thanks,
Lunasly.
Thanks for the reply, guys!
About shadowing: If anywhere from 60 - 100 hours is a good amount, would that mean I should split it up over say 5 different physicians, shadowing each one for ~20 hours?
Good point I am definitely going to want to do some non-medical community work.
I am sort of at a loss with research. While I am at a university, lab professors are not required to produce publications from there research. Would it still be worth taking the opportunity to research, but not receive a publication because it is not required by the university?
Splitting the shadowing as you described is fine. Be sure one of the docs is office-based primary care.About shadowing: If anywhere from 60 - 100 hours is a good amount, would that mean I should split it up over say 5 different physicians, shadowing each one for ~20 hours?
I am sort of at a loss with research. While I am at a university, lab professors are not required to produce publications from there research. Would it still be worth taking the opportunity to research, but not receive a publication because it is not required by the university?
You would also be able to list and describe your research activity on the AMCAS application. There are separate categories for Research, Presentations and Posters, and Publications. Filling out any of the three reflects well on you.I contacted the heads of both the chemistry and biology department and they both said that lab instructors are not required to produce publications from their research. So even if I did something at my university, I would at best get a LOR.
Thanks for the tips, guys.
Regarding Research: I contacted the heads of both the chemistry and biology department and they both said that lab instructors are not required to produce publications from their research. So even if I did something at my university, I would at best get a LOR.
I am from Canada by the way. If I am going to do research it would have to be this upcoming summer. I tried searching around but did not have too much luck. Can someone direct me to some research programs offered in B.C. mainly in the lower mainland?
Thank you,
Lunasly.
Hi, I was not referring to your lab instructors or your "teaching labs", but to PhD faculty researchers who run their own research labs. Perhaps your university doesn't have any research scientists? I don't know anything about Canadian schools.
If you have a dept of chemistry, biology, physics, etc that is offering masters or Doctoral degrees, there are research labs somewhere. If your university is affiliated with a hospital, there is medical research going on somewhere.
FYI, many (most?) university hospitals take on summer research students to help facilitate projects. You would have to contact the faculty in charge of research in each individual department. There is probably no central source of info. Call individual departments and ask to speak to/ leave a message for the department research director. He/she can help you find something, if they need a student.
Thanks for the reply, guys!
About shadowing: If anywhere from 60 - 100 hours is a good amount, would that mean I should split it up over say 5 different physicians, shadowing each one for ~20 hours?
Good point I am definitely going to want to do some non-medical community work.
I am sort of at a loss with research. While I am at a university, lab professors are not required to produce publications from there research. Would it still be worth taking the opportunity to research, but not receive a publication because it is not required by the university?
Might I suggest lowering that 100 hrs by quite a bit still and focusing some of that energy into your volunteering and/or get a job. Keep in mind that 20 hrs is a lot of time w/ 1 physician. I'd estimate you won't get much beyond about 8-12 hrs w/ one specialty. The fact is that you're really not going to learn that much from shadowing. You get a small idea of what the daily life of a physician is like but, at least for me, it took less than an hr to pick up 90% of what I got from each physician I shadowed. The rest of the time was interesting of course but the procedures don't take long and most of the time learning occurred in small chunks. I also learned FAR more from actually working on a floor and interacting w/ pts myself. Having RNs mentor me as a "future doc" has been invaluable -- far beyond anything shadowing could have offered.
Ah so like 8 hours per specialty should be good enough then.
Thanks for the advice.