Would you report cheating?

[lalex]

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As I'm typing this there is a dude in my class with no shame cheating using his phone. He took a bunch of pictures off someone else's notes. I actually snapchatted him to a friend so I have the picture.

This quiz is so easy and it makes me sick that he would take such a huge risk to cheat on an easy quiz.

Should I email it to his TA or drop it?

*I'm not taking the quiz, I already took it, he was absent for two days.

 

[Lannister]

I'm sure you'll get a lot of comments saying "don't report him, it's none of your business". But in this case I would report him anonymously. He'll never figure out it was you.

 

[Affiche]

Mind your own business.

 

[Lawpy]

@efle and many others would argue that you should report it and that the snitch factor is exaggerated. I'd agree with that if we're discussing ethics in theory, but in practice, i'd probably mind my own business and move on.

 

[Cotterpin]

Eh . . . over a quiz?

 

[lalex]

I just stared at his phone and he looked around at me nervously. He would know it was me but idc.

 

[Affiche]

Ugh seriously do not be that pre-med kid who sits around policing other people's actions. Worry about yourself.

 

[ProspectiveKidd]

Personally I'd give no ****s. Lmao@ OP snapchatting this

 

[Lannister]

Even if it was just a quiz, it's never just one time. There's a good chance he's doing the same thing on exams.

 

[lalex]

I made him a nervous mess which is punishment enough. It's ridiculous, honestly. It's an ETHICS class full of PREMEDS (it's on medicine).

 

[Medschoolornah]

OP butthurt level is palpable... jokes on you it was me 😏

 

[lalex]

Honestly in my opinion, I think this shouldn't be your problem and that you should just mind your own business. Unless you're a TA or the person he cheated off was a friend that could get into significant trouble because of this then keep it pushing. Don't go ruining someone else's life just because you were disgusted with their actions.

I understand where you're coming from, but if he was posting, "help, I got caught cheating during a quiz", you guys would give him hell and say he deserved it.

 

[lalex]

LOLOL the TA came over to get the quiz. He said he was almost done, she sat next to me, he quickly said he's done.

 

[Affiche]

I understand where you're coming from, but if he was posting, "help, I got caught cheating during a quiz", you guys would give him hell and say he deserved it.

Yeah I mean I'm not going to tell him he did a good job or anything but I'm also not going to meddle in someone else's affairs (hint: that's a good policy to have in life).

 

[blackgirlmd]

WHO CARES LMAO

 

[lalex]

WHO CARES LMAO

me? I actually worked hard to get an A on the quiz.

speaking of which, maybe he took a picture of someone else's quiz and I don't want to get them in trouble.

 

[ProspectiveKidd]

Anyways you don't know why he was cheating OP. Could've been on a late night bender or something. U tell on him n I garentee he'd reck u m8.

I actually worked hard to get an A on the quiz

You got your A....this isn't elementary school. If he partakes in this sort of thing with regularity he will be caught and it will cost him.

 

[Affiche]

me? I actually worked hard to get an A on the quiz.

speaking of which, maybe he took a picture of someone else's quiz and I don't want to get them in trouble.

Him cheating and getting an A doesn't take away the A you've already earned.

Gosh this is like Mean Girls

 

[lalex]

Anyways you don't know why he was cheating OP. Could've been on a late night bender or something. U tell on him n I garentee he'd reck u m8.

Maybe, he was a nervous mess and twitching the entire time. Maybe I'll just say, " I know what you did " and walk away. HAHA

 

[Lawpy]

Anyways you don't know why he was cheating OP. Could've been on a late night bender or something. U tell on him n I garentee he'd reck u m8.

I'm sure you'll get a lot of comments saying "don't report him, it's none of your business". But in this case I would report him anonymously. He'll never figure out it was you.

😕😕

 

[lalex]

Him cheating and getting an A doesn't take away the A you've already earned.

Gosh this is like Mean Girls

Actually, if this was a science class where your grade is based on percentages, would you report it?

 

[Affiche]

Actually, if this was a science class where your grade is based on percentages, would you report it?

You mean a curve, right?
No, I wouldn't. Like I said, I don't like meddling in other people's affairs.

 

[lalex]

You mean a curve, right?
No, I wouldn't. Like I said, I don't like meddling in other people's affairs.

Yes, sorry. I meant percentages like 10% get A, etc.

Then you're a better person than me. Because this is just a 100 level ethics class, I'll just mess with him until class is over.

 

[Affiche]

Yes, sorry. I meant percentages like 10% get A, etc.

Then you're a better person than me. Because this is just a 100 level ethics class, I'll just mess with him until class is over.

The best part is that you're working yourself up over this and he doesn't give a ****. Like you said, he was pretty shameless. He's moved on. So should you.

 

[Medschoolornah]

bruh more important things in the world going on right now than worrying about some dude cheating on a baby quiz.... move on

 

[lalex]

I mean he was cheating with no shame until he saw me seeing him. Now I feel like he's about to approach me.

 

[AlfonsTheGuru]

No

 

[Goro]

“The true test of a man’s character is what he does when no one is watching.”
― John Wooden

"The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing"
attributed to Edmund Burke

As I'm typing this there is a dude in my class with no shame cheating using his phone. He took a bunch of pictures off someone else's notes. I actually snapchatted him to a friend so I have the picture.

This quiz is so easy and it makes me sick that he would take such a huge risk to cheat on an easy quiz.

Should I email it to his TA or drop it?

*I'm not taking the quiz, I already took it, he was absent for two days.

 

[Affiche]

"The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing"
attributed to Edmund Burke

Lol are you serious, @Goro?
While I agree that cheating on a quiz is unethical, it isn't exactly "evil" lmao

 

[Goro]

I trust you get the thrust of what I was trying to point out, rather than focussing on 100% literal meanings.

Look, lots of people bitch and moan about others who do wrong. Why question is: whaddya going to do about it?

I'll point out that many med schools have as part of their honor code the following: "A student will not cheat nor tolerate those who do"

Is cheating OK, or not OK?

To the OP, my advice is do the right thing

Lol are you serious, @Goro?
While I agree that cheating on a quiz is unethical, it isn't exactly "evil" lmao

 

[Affiche]

I trust you get the thrust of what I was trying to point out, rather than focussing on 100% literal meanings.

Look, lots of people bitch and moan about others who do wrong. Why question is: whaddya going to do about it?

I'll point out that many med schools have as part of their honor code the following: "A student will not cheat nor tolerate those who do"

Is cheating OK, or not OK?

To the OP, my advice is do the right thing

Of course I get it, I just disagree 🙂
I don't think someone is guilty of an honor code violation for not snitching on a cheater. Just keep your own nose clean.

 

[MerYangBey]

Honestly I feel like the people, that are so concerned about what other students are doing, are actually insecure about their own academic performance. If you study and do well in a class why would you care about fools trying to cheat? Let them be stupid while you're being smart. The end result is the same for you.

 

[AUnifiedScene]

In my experience as a TA and as a student, 95% of the time the people that are cheating are not doing well in the class regardless. The vast majority of the time, they won't negatively impact the curve, even with the boost from cheating. Forget about it; focus on yourself.

 

[thatwouldbeanarchy]

@AUnifiedScene I love your handle!!

 

[El-Rami]

Let me ask you this. Would you report a rape if you saw it happening, or would it be "none of your business?"

 

[blackgirlmd]

Let me ask you this. Would you report a rape if you saw it happening, or would it be "none of your business?"

Wow. Seriously. Reaching

 

[blackgirlmd]

Rape compared to a student cheating on a quiz. Lol what the hell. No one gets hurt if you mind your business when someone is cheating.

 

[MerYangBey]

Let me ask you this. Would you report a rape if you saw it happening, or would it be "none of your business?"

It's so offensive that you would compare rape to cheating. Like really???

 

[Poro]

In my experience as a TA and as a student, 95% of the time the people that are cheating are not doing well in the class regardless. The vast majority of the time, they won't negatively impact the curve, even with the boost from cheating. Forget about it; focus on yourself.

This is quite true. As a TA I have suspected several students in the past of cheating. Twitchy hands, surprise when I'm around etc. We are told to let them finish the test and they get a freebee the first time. I've looked up their test grade and it's usually under the curve by a standard deviation.

Only the really desperate will do these things.

 

[ProspectiveKidd]

Let me ask you this. Would you report a rape if you saw it happening, or would it be "none of your business?"

Are you having a laugh?

 

[Lannister]

This is so ironic. Right after commenting on this thread, I went and took an anatomy exam, and halfway through two people got busted for accessing the course website.

 

[efle]

Send the pic to the TA anonymously. It is then up to them to decide what a "small" breach in academic integrity merits. I know that here, it would be taken seriously.

Some of you people need an intro to logic class. It's not an analogy hinging on common severity for rape and cheating, it's an argument ad absurdum pointing out that "you should just mind your own business" is not a sound ethical approach. The entire point of it is to try and apply the approach to an extreme situation and see that it fails. It's the same thing that Goro was getting at - no, failing to report cheating is not literally the same as standing by and watching atrocities, but it's a dangerous game to draw arbitrary lines for what is bad enough to intervene.

 

[efle]

This is so ironic. Right after commenting on this thread, I went and took an anatomy exam, and halfway through two people got busted for accessing the course website.

Make sure to help ostracize whoever snitched

/s

 

[Lannister]

Actually no one snitched! They accessed the course website during the exam, and the professor can see a list of people who access it with the times they logged in.

 

[ProspectiveKidd]

Actually no one snitched! They accessed the course website during the exam, and the professor can see a list of people who access it with the times they logged in.

Exactly..things have a way of working themselves out.

Listen we know this is wrong, but OP is almost equally dumb for snapping pics during the quiz himself.

I mean FFS, the guy who is taking PICTURES of NOTES is going to have a hard ass time reading them inconspicuously during a quiz to get any benefit out of that anyways.

 

[lalex]

Actually no one snitched! They accessed the course website during the exam, and the professor can see a list of people who access it with the times they logged in.

That's so interesting. I always wondered how people who went to the bathroom during exams got caught cheating.

 

[Lannister]

Ethically we know this is wro



Exactly..things have a way or working themselves out.

Listen we know this is wrong, but OP is almost equally dumb for snapping pics during the quiz himself.

I mean FFS, the guy who is taking PICTURES of NOTES is going to have a hard ass time reading them inconspicuously during a quiz to get any benefit out of that anyways.

Read his post more carefully.

 

[swearonmemum]

this thread is full of lowkey cheaters tsk tsk

 

[lalex]

Ethically we know this is wro



Exactly..things have a way or working themselves out.

Listen we know this is wrong, but OP is almost equally dumb for snapping pics during the quiz himself.

I mean FFS, the guy who is taking PICTURES of NOTES is going to have a hard ass time reading them inconspicuously during a quiz to get any benefit out of that anyways.

Wait you're calling me dumb for snapping during CLASS? He was absent for a week, I already took the quiz.
No, with students all around him he was happily zooming in on pictures of notes he took before class. I got to class early so I know he was taking a quiz because the TA was talking to him, but others around him had no clue.

 

[efle]

Things have a way or working themselves out

Only in this type of instance...some of the more traditional methods of cheating, like passing around the nearly identical exam from last year that you aren't supposed to have access to, will really only be caught if someone that the exam is offered to comes forward and lets the prof know