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I've been shadowing a dentist periodically for a few months, and during a procedure today he arbitrarily mentions, "whenever you want to get your letter in the mail, just write something up and have me sign it." This doesn't sound particularly ethical to me, but I don't want to force him into writing one with a negative attitude about me if he thinks I should just handle it myself. He's a great teacher, but doesn't allow himself very much free time, so it's not that surprising.


Anyone else come across this? If so, what did you write? What are the typical points, and length of a lor from the hand of a dentist?

 

[jay228]

very common. Just write yourself a not-too-long one and heap praises shamelessly upon yourself. LORs factors in minisculely with the Adcoms.

 

[I AM SARA]

I've been shadowing a dentist periodically for a few months, and during a procedure today he arbitrarily mentions, "whenever you want to get your letter in the mail, just write something up and have me sign it." This doesn't sound particularly ethical to me, but I don't want to force him into writing one with a negative attitude about me if he thinks I should just handle it myself. He's a great teacher, but doesn't allow himself very much free time, so it's not that surprising.


Anyone else come across this? If so, what did you write? What are the typical points, and length of a lor from the hand of a dentist?

Just write,

Blah shadowed me on blah days. I found him/her to be very intelligent and perceptive, however when I asked him to write his own recommendation letter he did not possess the ambition to do so and instead questioned my integrety and asked strangers what he should do on a public web site. This bothers me. What would he do if he were in a procedure that didnt go by the book. Would he be able to step to the plate and swing, refer the patient, or would he log onto a web site full of strangers and ask for help once again? Please think twice about this candidates admission.



Sorry to be rude, but thats how you come accross with your question.

Many write their own recommendation letters.

Is it unethical? Please, its not a matter of ethics, its a matter of you not being worth 20 minutes of this guys time.

 

[RaiderNation]

I've been shadowing a dentist periodically for a few months, and during a procedure today he arbitrarily mentions, "whenever you want to get your letter in the mail, just write something up and have me sign it." This doesn't sound particularly ethical to me, but I don't want to force him into writing one with a negative attitude about me if he thinks I should just handle it myself. He's a great teacher, but doesn't allow himself very much free time, so it's not that surprising.


Anyone else come across this? If so, what did you write? What are the typical points, and length of a lor from the hand of a dentist?

Why not do it? Just write how great you are and that you have so many intangibles that make for a great dentist, etc. Then have the dentist sign it.

 

[I AM SARA]

very common. Just write yourself a not-too-long one and heap praises shamelessly upon yourself. LORs factors in minisculely with the Adcoms.

Yea I agree. My father is on an adcom committee (hes a Doc) at the med school in my state and he has told me lots of times that they only scan these right before the interview to get familiar with the candidate.

 

[natroncb]

Just write,

Blah shadowed me on blah days. I found him/her to be very intelligent and perceptive, however when I asked him to write his own recommendation letter he did not possess the ambition to do so and instead questioned my integrety and asked strangers what he should do on a public web site. This bothers me. What would he do if he were in a procedure that didnt go by the book. Would he be able to step to the plate and swing, refer the patient, or would he log onto a web site full of strangers and ask for help once again? Please think twice about this candidates admission.



Sorry to be rude, but thats how you come accross with your question.

Many write their own recommendation letters.

Is it unethical? Please, its not a matter of ethics, its a matter of you not being worth 20 minutes of this guys time.

OH....please kick I AM SARA off. i.e. trolling!!!!!!

 

[RaiderNation]

OH....please kick I AM SARA off. i.e. trolling!!!!!!

I second that. I am so sick of reading her posts. 90% of what she says is complete trash.

 

[I AM SARA]

I second that. I am so sick of reading her posts. 90% of what she says is complete trash.

Why are you personally attacking my comments?

I am not a troll. I have been helping people here.

 

[natroncb]

Why are you personally attacking my comments?

I am not a troll. I have been helping people here.

ignore 👎

 

[I AM SARA]

ignore 👎

This guy harassed me. Kick him off immediately.

 

[natroncb]

This guy harassed me. Kick him off immediately.

I have not communicated with "I am sara" in any way other than on these open threads. And for the future will not respond to any of her threads... and for that fact I hope none of you respond to her threads unless they contain useful information.

Sara, I am sorry for hurting your feelings in previous posts. It will not happen again. Good luck with UoP 😎

 

[Comet208]

I second that. I am so sick of reading her posts. 90% of what she says is complete trash.

I'm the third!

 

[Comet208]

Is it unethical? Please, its not a matter of ethics, its a matter of you not being worth 20 minutes of this guys time.

Not true at all. If the OP wasnt worth 20 min of the Doc's time, he would not be shadowing in his office for MONTHS and earn the kind of TRUST that whatever he writes, the doc will sign in off. A decent LOR will take a lot more than 20 min.

 

[WhoooaaaBUNDY]

Thanks all, I didn't realize it was a common request. And in thinking over the ethics aspect ... he would always have the option to not sign if he wasn't comfortable with it.