WSJ: UnitedHealthcare CEO Fatally Shot

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JoeLores said:
So back to the shooter…..seems like he had L5-S1 fusion and was “totally changed” after surgery. He had a book called gaming the back pain system or something like that. He could have been one of our patients.
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JoeLores said:
So back to the shooter…..seems like he had L5-S1 fusion and was “totally changed” after surgery. He had a book called gaming the back pain system or something like that. He could have been one of our patients.
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Hence my first post few days ago. Everyone here yucking it up over a murder of an insurance exec. Not as funny when this nutcase decides to take it out on the medical community (neurosurgeon, pain doctor, whatever) instead of who he did.

This losers life is worth nothing so he doesn’t care. They don’t see the difference between an insurance who gets paid to deny care vs us, who gets paid to provide care. To them, it’s all the same. “We” are all overpaid, arrogant, take advantage of the little guy, and can be blamed for the reason their life is total crap.

Karma is a b!tch
 
bedrock said:
That every single vet gets disability now makes me sick. And honestly makes me respect modern veterans far far less than 20th century vets.

We previously had an early 50s military trained spine surgeon in our practice. It came out one day to me that he was given 100% disability as he finished his 20 years. Yet he still did 5 mile hikes, skied black diamond, and did 8 hr OR days.

Can baron, epidural guy, or other previous military personnel comment on how everyone gets disability in the military these days?

Who grants all the disability?

Why does the government not try to limit the amount of disability given?

I agree with cowboydoc that all of this disability BS dramatically increases the DOD budget beyond what they state to congress, and wastes hundreds of millions of dollars.

Meanwhile, Tricare pays less than Medicaid and we’re expected to smile and be grateful to see Tricare patients, instead of those who actually make a profit for our practice.
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Well, I am sure it is a complicated story -

BUT - the VA farms out the job of that disability evaluation to community. These PCM's get paid to do the evaluation...and I suspect, they think they are helping the vets out a lot to pad the "application". They are doing you a favor. How nice of them. But it is bankrupting the system.

Also, there are lawyer shops that will look at your file and work with you to get it up as high as possible. I don't know how they do it, but I know several people that have gone to them to try and get the sweet "100%"

Let me give you an example of the evaluation. I had in my chart a single visit to the doctor for back pain once when I was active duty. We got an x-ray, and that was it. I never complained about it again. I never missed work. I was totally honest during the disability evaluation. However, when she did the physical exam, she asked me to bend over - and because I am extremely unflexible, I can really only go to about 60 deg (no making fun of me...), and she was like - oh WOW. I can see you are injured - or something like that.

Anyway, my first year out I sent a letter to the VA and told them not to send me any money. They promptly ignored it and started sending checks.

Of course, now, I use them to pay for my Tesla - so no way I am giving them back now.

I owe the VA about $4,500 now because you aren't supposed to get paid for Reserve pay and disability pay on the same day - and they don't figure that out until years later when they send you a nasty letter saying "HEY. YOU WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO DO THAT!"
 
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epidural man said:
The comments on this interesting video are crazy.



So crazy we think murder is okay (as a nation).
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We've been thinking murder is ok for decades now as nothing gets done one mass shooting after another. Heck we are the only “developed” country with capital punishment.
 
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allantois said:
We've been thinking murder is ok for decades now as nothing gets done one mass shooting after another. Heck we are the only “developed” country with capital punishment.
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Sure they do…..they get prosecuted and go to jail. Crossing the border is also illegal, but they get ebt cards and hotel rooms in sanctuary cities. There’s no 2nd amendment for illegals…..just the desire for crop picking and “humane treatment of criminals”….unless they get shipped to Martha’s Vineyard.
 
allantois said:
We've been thinking murder is ok for decades now as nothing gets done one mass shooting after another. Heck we are the only “developed” country with capital punishment.
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It’s a spiritual problem. Our culture is becoming more and more depraved and morally bankrupt. No real value for human life
 
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clubdeac said:
It’s a spiritual problem. Our culture is becoming more and more derived and spiritually bankrupt. No real value for human life
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im pretty certain Jesus would not call out and mass deport immigrants, nor castigate those who are unlike him.

Leviticus 19:33-34

When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. 34 The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the Lord your God.
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Matthew 25:34-36

“Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’
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Deuteronomy 10:18-19

18 He defends the cause of the fatherless and the widow, and loves the foreigner residing among you, giving them food and clothing. 19 And you are to love those who are foreigners, for you yourselves were foreigners in Egypt.
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Ducttape said:
im pretty certain Jesus would not call out and mass deport immigrants, nor castigate those who are unlike him.

Leviticus 19:33-34



Matthew 25:34-36



Deuteronomy 10:18-19
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Jesus not saying anything does not mean he agrees with it. More than 60% of the country wants to deport those who broke the law to get here. Because we’re a nation of laws, right?
 
hyperalgesia said:
The scariest part is "healthcare costs continue to skyrocket" and some people think the solution is to create a monopoly aka "single payer".
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What's the solution?

I have a couple of thoughts.

#1. Insurance is the problem. They ruin everything.

#2: The things in place to protect our health seem to work really well in a socialistic program, except the final step (doctor/health care). Fire departments and police departments - i'm sure have issues - but I think having a single payer system for those protectors of our health works pretty well. Why wouldn't it work in medicine?
 
epidural man said:
What's the solution?

I have a couple of thoughts.

#1. Insurance is the problem. They ruin everything.

#2: The things in place to protect our health seem to work really well in a socialistic program, except the final step (doctor/health care). Fire departments and police departments - i'm sure have issues - but I think having a single payer system for those protectors of our health works pretty well. Why wouldn't it work in medicine?
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I would totally use the examples of fire and police departments. Local municipal or state employees providing healthcare is an excellent idea.

But this is very different than "single payer" as it is proposed in healthcare.

We wouldn't want to use a federal agency to reimburse private contractors to put out fires, like Medicare does for healthcare. It would work as expected...
 
hyperalgesia said:
I would totally use the examples of fire and police departments. Local municipal or state employees providing healthcare is an excellent idea.

But this is very different than "single payer" as it is proposed in healthcare.

We wouldn't want to use a federal agency to reimburse private contractors to put out fires, like Medicare does for healthcare. It would work as expected...
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This is a veiled, racist trope to deny basic care to the marginalized.

…or a logical way to deliver reasonable care to a community.
 
I don’t want healthcare to change. I enjoy my income. Woops, did I say that out loud?
 
hyperalgesia said:
That's the employee mentality that has captured everyone, including solo practice owners.

Your services are worth 5x what the AMA has allocated to you.
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or you may be buying in to the mentality that you think you are worth more than what others think you are.

the same system that you feel limits your salary - from your perspective - also limits noctors from doing the same procedures and injections and getting paid by Medicare and private insurances.
 
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