Yale Neurology?

[aggie57]

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Hi, I'm trying to finalize my rank list and looking to see if anyone has any info on Yale, relative strength of the program, chances of getting a good fellowship afterwards, anything would help...

If it helps the other programs I'm ranking highly are Penn and NYU. Obviously Penn has the best rep of these 3, but is Yale in the next broad tier?

Thanks for any help 🙂

 

[scm]

i wrote something in the post-interview impressions thread, check it out... i take it you visited yale? did you like it there? i dunno how prudent making you rank list by reputation really is...i would say nyu and yale are probably regarded similarly.. i guess from people ive talked to(or folks in the northeast/comparing to other programs in the northeast), i would say yale and nyu are both bottom 2nd tier/third tier..

 

[PhineasGage]

i would say yale and nyu are both bottom 2nd tier/third tier..

Hello all...longtime lurker, first-time poster here. The stress of the impending match has driven me to the keyboard, rather than just the mouse.

Prior posts suggest a lukewarm response to Yale from several here. While I am not ranking it at the top, I thought the program was strong, particularly for the academic/research-minded. There are plenty of MD/PhD-types in the faculty and among the residents. Research opportunities are great. As far as fellowships, if you look through the brochures in the packet the gave us (I know, you probably have a big dusty stack to rifle through), you'll see alums have gone to Harvard, Columbia for movement disorders, MGH, Cleveland Clinic, JHU, and of course, many stayed at Yale. I think the cachement area is pretty big, and you'll see interesting cases. But despite faculty denials, I'm sure some interesting cases are lost to Boston and NYC. As far as residents, they seemed like one of the happier bunches I've encountered, though I spent more time with the PGY3s, so I may be biased.

I liked Yale but didn't love it...still grappling with where to rank it myself. I'm trying to weigh it against UCLA, Stanford, and UW-Seattle (independent of location). Any thoughts?

- PhineasGage 😕

 

[scm]

i'll try not to be redundant from my other post about yale. agreed, strong place for research-minded, though I think i met/was interviewed mostly by folks doing bench/basic science(PD, Chair, Neuroimmuno guy). I suppose i'm more inclined toward clinical research. I was worried a little about clinical training there-i.e. the basic science guy coming out of the lab for his required month of wards scenerio. indeed, residents did seem very laid back and happy, and in terms of patient population/case mix and so forth, seemed pretty great. I think almost every place where i interviewed had sent people to strong fellowships. one of the programs I liked the least and thought was the weakest (Tufts), with not much in terms of movement disorders at all is sending a 4th yr to Mayo(great program) for MD next yr. Fellowships arent really very comptetitive at this point, unless you have one in mind already at a particular place, i wouldnt let this influence you much, or at least I didn't. and seeing where the fellows in MD and MS came from at a few very strong fellowships has me not worried so much at all(and they said they had their pick).. I suppose I was biased going into Yale, numerous well known faculty at my institution and others had told me it wasnt a very good program/hadn't been a good program for years, but I was never sure about their reasons...(and everyone always had worse things to say about NYU, but who knows...)

 

[cobra]

Yale has a superb neurology residency program. The faculty are very supportive and have fantastic connections. You basically have your choice of fellowships by graduating from this residency program. The name says it all.

 

[play274]

aggie57:

Perhaps my advice is coming a few days too late (although it's apparent that you still have time to change your mind), but - being on the East Coast - in terms of "relative strength of the program/chances of getting a good fellowship afterwards," I would rank those three as such (they each seem to be in separate tiers):

1. Penn - This program is strong from top to bottom; there are very few holes there. From what I have seen, a Penn resident should be able to find his/her choice of fellowship/job without any problem. Dr. Galetta is an all-star (http://www.uphs.upenn.edu/neuro/residents/text.html) and a true resident-advocate. Not that it matters, but - if you're interested - the residents appear to be from upper tier US schools and are all quite personable and sharp.

2. Yale - A well-respected, medium-sized program w/strong residents and - from their published weblist (http://info.med.yale.edu/neurol/residency/neurology alumni89-03.dwt) - opportunities to match in almost any fellowship that you desire. I have heard that Drs. Waxman and Richerson are very supportive of their residents and tend to go all-out in aiding their job/fellowship-search. Again, the residents appear to be from upper and mid-tier US schools (w/no FMGs) and seem to truly enjoy their residency and are collegiate.

3. NYU - An amazing location, but I have heard that attendings tend to absorb the brunt of the work at Tisch, and neurosurgery seems to dominate their program; also, the past "semi-merger" with Mt. Sinai greatly weakened NYU, while strengthening Mt. Sinai's department. Competitive fellowships at strong programs (ie. EMG, neurointerventional) may be a challenge. Nonetheless, Dr. Kolodny is a true gentleman. The stark contrast between hospitals such as Tisch and Bellevue may be intriguing to some future residents. And, for those who may find this important, there seem to be many FMGs and a couple DOs at NYU; access to residents seem limited during my interview date, but attendings seemed genuine. (http://www.med.nyu.edu/neurology/training/adult/residents.html)

I tried to be fair with the negatives and postives; I am not currently a resident/physician who is affiliated with any of these three programs. I simply hope that this helps build your knowledge of these programs. Best of luck to you all.

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