Yet again... discouraged.

[WatchMeRise]

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In this thread: http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=701746 the OP has a 3.5 and a lot of you guys make it sound terrible. This is depressing. All I can think of right now is PASSING my pre-requisite classes. Acing basic pre-req classes seems impossible. I mean, it's just lower division gen chem right? Why in the world is it so hard to get an A? Is it easier to get A's in upper-division science classes because they aren't weeder classes anymore? Or does this tunnel just get much more long and difficult?

 

[Morsetlis]

If it's hard to you, then you're dumb and gotta work harder. That's life.

Work hard enough and you get A's in all your undergrad classes, except the essay ones graded by racist TA's.

But I digress.

 

[Buzz Me]

Is it easier to get A's in upper-division science classes because they aren't weeder classes anymore? Or does this tunnel just get much more long and difficult?

Maybe it's just me, but I would argue that o-chem is more of a weeder class than g-chem.

 

[WatchMeRise]

It's just different from what I'm used to. In college, Effort = Worthless. It's all about results. You're right though, I'm dumb. I keep telling myself to suck it up and perform, but I'm not. I'm just doing something wrong, and I just can't figure it out.

At least someone tell me... if you received good grades, or A's in your classes, did you work hard for it? Was it a struggle? I spend a lot of time studying but it seems fruitless... like I'm wasting my time, because when that midterm comes around, it just seems like I didn't study well enough. Learning to study smart, and figuring out what works for me is taking too long. Jesus, why can't I figure this out already!?

 

[Morsetlis]

Did I work hard for it? No. I barely passed my own standards, and I played WoW about 40 hours a week. If I worked hard for it, I'd have a 3.9 (hello racist TA's) instead of a 3.6.

You're wrong, though. The materials covered in college is so few and so easy that effort is GREATLY REWARDED. Just doing the reading alone will probably boost your grade in all your classes by a letter point. Doing the homework, going to discussion sections, and doing practice quizzes will raise it by another letter point. It's all about the work, and not much about the brain. How hard is anti-markovnikov addition?

If you're wasting time studying, I suggest talking to counselors / tutors of some sort ASAP. You're clearly not understanding how to study for college, and it's really easy.

 

[anonymousername]

give 100% expect 40% get 90%

 

[thesauce]

Did I work hard for it? No. I barely passed my own standards, and I played WoW about 40 hours a week. If I worked hard for it, I'd have a 3.9 (hello racist TA's) instead of a 3.6.

You're wrong, though. The materials covered in college is so few and so easy that effort is GREATLY REWARDED. Just doing the reading alone will probably boost your grade in all your classes by a letter point. Doing the homework, going to discussion sections, and doing practice quizzes will raise it by another letter point. It's all about the work, and not much about the brain. How hard is anti-markovnikov addition?

If you're wasting time studying, I suggest talking to counselors / tutors of some sort ASAP. You're clearly not understanding how to study for college, and it's really easy.

This depends on the major. I'll agree with much of this for bio courses.

OP: you really should be able to make A's. Yes, it gets harder. If not in undergrad, then in med school.

 

[WatchMeRise]

Did I work hard for it? No. I barely passed my own standards, and I played WoW about 40 hours a week. If I worked hard for it, I'd have a 3.9 (hello racist TA's) instead of a 3.6.

You're wrong, though. The materials covered in college is so few and so easy that effort is GREATLY REWARDED. Just doing the reading alone will probably boost your grade in all your classes by a letter point. Doing the homework, going to discussion sections, and doing practice quizzes will raise it by another letter point. It's all about the work, and not much about the brain. How hard is anti-markovnikov addition?

If you're wasting time studying, I suggest talking to counselors / tutors of some sort ASAP. You're clearly not understanding how to study for college, and it's really easy.

Thanks for your suggestion. I haven't taken many classes yet, but it's clear to me that reading the text for non-science classes works very well. However in chem, I can read the text, but sometimes it takes me a long time to grasp a concept. I spend time reading it over and over, until I finally understand it. The sad thing is, in the end, I've only understood the basic concept! When the questions are asked on the midterms, they require you to know the subject 100% to get the answer correct, and each question is usually a different "Animal," from the previous. It just seems like they can spit the same question or concept at you in so many different formats, and you just have to analyze it a certain way, and that's difficult for me at times. In classes you have to read in, the reading usually does the trick. But in science and math, it's the practice questions that you have to master. You have to do so many questions, and each one seems entirely different for me. I know I'm whining... maybe I should just, "Suck it up".

 

[RogueUnicorn]

In this thread: http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=701746 the OP has a 3.5 and a lot of you guys make it sound terrible. This is depressing. All I can think of right now is PASSING my pre-requisite classes. Acing basic pre-req classes seems impossible. I mean, it's just lower division gen chem right? Why in the world is it so hard to get an A? Is it easier to get A's in upper-division science classes because they aren't weeder classes anymore? Or does this tunnel just get much more long and difficult?

watchin you sink...

 

[drizzt3117]

Do you think med school will be easier? At a lot of schools you essentially redo everything you learned in all of the undergrad science courses in one semester...

 

[rockaction]

watchin you sink...

OP, you have to figure out how to study. you're a freshman and hopefully by now you've realized that college isn't like high school at all. once you figure out how study well, you'll probably do better.

 

[URHere]

In this thread: http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=701746 the OP has a 3.5 and a lot of you guys make it sound terrible. This is depressing. All I can think of right now is PASSING my pre-requisite classes. Acing basic pre-req classes seems impossible. I mean, it's just lower division gen chem right? Why in the world is it so hard to get an A? Is it easier to get A's in upper-division science classes because they aren't weeder classes anymore? Or does this tunnel just get much more long and difficult?

Although it sounds harsh, I don't think any of the advice from the other thread was unwarranted. Becoming a physician is a very desirable career choice these days, and many people applying to medical school have such amazing numbers that they have raised the bar for everyone else. If schools have hoards of well-rounded, enthusiastic applicants with good numbers, the person with lower stats will need something special to earn them a second glance.

As for your situation, no two college students have the same experience. Many people here will tell you that college is cake and that you must be dumb if things don't come easily to you. I would just argue that you will just need to work harder, or find and major in something that does come easily to you.

When it comes to prereqs, there will also be a range in which class is easier for which people. Personally, gen chem was the bane of my existence because I just didn't care about those stupid graphs and waveform equations (and my grade reflected that). Years later, I'm in medical school and pursuing a PhD in chemistry, so it wasn't terribly reflective of my skill or chemistry potential, now was it? Don't get discouraged quite yet. If you follow the pre-med route and find that physiology, molecular biology, microbiology, etc are all very difficult and unpleasant for you, then you should start to think about things a bit more. Medical school is much more similar to those classes than it is to gen chem, and the pace is notably faster.

 

[apoptosis123]

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[Drrrrrr. Celty]

watchin you sink...

I think he's got the pre-med complex of pass/fail
A-/A/A+ = pass
B+ = bearly pass
B/B-/C+ fail.

I know personally I'm horrible at chem and along with my schools policy of no B+'s. I'm basically ending up with B's in both of those classes. So Personally getting a B in chem makes me feel like I failed.

However if this guy is one of those who's getting below a C and trying really hard. Then figure out how to study better/ figure out whats getting in the way.

 

[MB333999]

If it's hard to you, then you're dumb and gotta work harder. That's life.

Work hard enough and you get A's in all your undergrad classes, except the essay ones graded by racist TA's.

But I digress.

i couldnt of said it better myself