You think finding one job on the East Coast is hard?

[WVUPharm2007]

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...try being married to a new grad and trying to find *2* jobs in the same town. 😱

If I had envisioned this back in 2004, I would have encouraged my wife to go become a forensic pathologist like she originally wanted to.

I'm about to go on a resume-submitting spree spray-and-pray style to every hospital in a 500 mile radius near a major metro and see what I come up with. I was *this* close to getting on at a hospital in Canada. Stupid ass Ontario government foiling all of my plans...

 

[Ackj]

...try being married.

Fixed

 

[glory4england]

come to Texas, there are always jobs in West TX and East TX (middle of desert and no where close to Dallas, Houston, Austin of course) =D

Good luck on your search though ^^

 

[jinga]

The rural Midwest is pretty decent too but you might have to join the NRA, buy a Chevy, and learn to live with random stray dogs that show up on your doorstep. I'm serious PETA people DO NOT do well here...it's our lifeline. PM me if you're interested in becoming a hick...seriously lol I can help.

 

[Praziquantel86]

What happened to the current job?

 

[type b pharmD]

is WV really considered east coast?? LOL


also jinga, im pretty sure WVU already knows about rural living 😛

 

[type b pharmD]

What happened to the current job?

obviously he is hoping for his wife to have one, and there are no current openings in morgantown

 

[WVUPharm2007]

The rural Midwest is pretty decent too but you might have to join the NRA, buy a Chevy, and learn to live with random stray dogs that show up on your doorstep. I'm serious PETA people DO NOT do well here...it's our lifeline. PM me if you're interested in becoming a hick...seriously lol I can help.

I'm holding out for a city. If all else fails, there are jobs in Indianapolis. And if that fails, I'll move to Texas and live amongst the drug wars. I'd just like to stay in the East.

 

[Praziquantel86]

Buffalo (or Rochester)! Close enough to Toronto for your enjoyment.

 

[Pharmavixen]

I was *this* close to getting on at a hospital in Canada. Stupid ass Ontario government foiling all of my plans...

Bill isn't passed yet! (Granted, it doesn't look great....)

 

[WVUPharm2007]

Buffalo (or Rochester)! Close enough to Toronto for your enjoyment.

Are there jobs in Buffalo?

 

[jinga]

Right on, WV. Good luck in your search. Cities do have a lot more to offer. Wow, Morgantown is even rural by my standards.

 

[WVUPharm2007]

Right on, WV. Good luck in your search. Cities do have a lot more to offer. Wow, Morgantown is even rural by my standards.

It is? I'm like an hour from Pittsburgh...and there are like 120,000 people that live in the area. There are no jobs here because there is a school here.

 

[jinga]

Hmm, should have looked closer. Not so rural. I grew up in a town of 1000 and the nearest city was an hour away...45,000 people. A true metropolis. Lol.

 

[Momus]

Check this WV
http://www.pharmacymanpower.com/state.html

 

[WVUPharm2007]

Check this WV
http://www.pharmacymanpower.com/state.html

Oh, there are jobs in every state. But I don't want to work in Muncy, Pa...but I would take a job in Philly or Yinzer.

 

[Praziquantel86]

Are there jobs in Buffalo?

With a few years of prior experience, you could probably find a few.

 

[PharmDstudent]

Have you thought about Louisiana? It's eastern enough.

Just don't expect to do anything with a residency here.

Based on my rotations, the mixed clinical/staff jobs are cool! ...with no residency necessary.

 

[SpirivaSunrise]

Ummm. Baltimore?

 

[jinga]

Have you thought about Louisiana? It's eastern enough.

Just don't expect to do anything with a residency here.

Based on my rotations, the mixed clinical/staff jobs are cool! ...with no residency necessary.

Mixed clinical/staff jobs are bonus, dude! Probably the happiest pharmacists I know do these jobs. I would get burnt out doing one of these full time, but doing both would be JUST the right balance. Looks so cool!

 

[bacillus1]

How about Southern Delaware? There are still jobs there. In the summer you can chill at the DE beaches or in Ocean City, MD. In the winter if you're bored just take a 2hr drive to Philly or Baltimore. And it's not that rural, there are cities/towns of 20-30k people all around that area. No pharmacy schools in DE, which means not too many new grads there aside from the ones that graduate from neighboring states. But most of them try to work in northern DE, so Southern DE is still open.

Only problem is that there are only like 2 hospitals in the area, but they hire sometimes.

 

[WVUPharm2007]

Ummm. Baltimore?

Hell yeah...I've got some apps in...

I'ma be in Martinsburg from May 31st to July 2nd. Hurrah.

 

[WVUPharm2007]

Have you thought about Louisiana? It's eastern enough.

Just don't expect to do anything with a residency here.

Based on my rotations, the mixed clinical/staff jobs are cool! ...with no residency necessary.

Anything near a populated area?

 

[IrishHammer]

With a few years of prior experience, you could probably find a few.

I concur. A friend of mine who has been around the Buffalo market for quite some time (graduated the year before UB switched to the 2+4 PharmD) switched jobs about a year ago, is getting ready to do so again because the DOP at her current hospital is a ****ing *****, and she's had a pretty good deal of success switching jobs. She had five different offers land in her lap last year and she has several on the table now.

There's also the possibility of taking a job at a smaller hospital about 30-60 minutes outside of Buffalo, at a place like Brooks Memorial or Lake Shore.

 

[thedrunkenpharm]

Have you thought about opening your own Pharmacy School? It looks pretty profitable these days.

 

[Caverject]

Anything near a populated area?

The VA has multiple positions available in the NE right now

 

[jinga]

The VA has multiple positions available in the NE right now

I hope to work for the VA someday...sounds like a pretty cool gig!

 

[ucrx]

The VA has multiple positions available in the NE right now

West Haven, CT is in a pretty nice area (I don't think the area by the VA hospital is the nicest but surrounding towns definitely are). I think its about an hour from NYC and many people in the area commute to the city for work. I don't know about other places hiring, but Yale-New Haven Hospital and St. Raphael might be and those are pretty close too.

 

[rxlea]

Have you thought about opening your own Pharmacy School? It looks pretty profitable these days.

🤣 I think this is an excellent idea. I will teach for you by distance while I am a P2 or P3.

 

[WVUPharm2007]

I concur. A friend of mine who has been around the Buffalo market for quite some time (graduated the year before UB switched to the 2+4 PharmD) switched jobs about a year ago, is getting ready to do so again because the DOP at her current hospital is a ****ing *****, and she's had a pretty good deal of success switching jobs. She had five different offers land in her lap last year and she has several on the table now.

There's also the possibility of taking a job at a smaller hospital about 30-60 minutes outside of Buffalo, at a place like Brooks Memorial or Lake Shore.

And more importantly...its an hour and change away from Toronto...

 

[IrishHammer]

And more importantly...its an hour and change away from Toronto...

We have a Dave & Buster's as well up in Williamsville. Plus, you've talked several times before about how WVU sports teams are cursed. You'll feel right at home cheering for the Bills, Sabres, and as of last Saturday, the Bandits.

 

[PharmDstudent]

Anything near a populated area?

Watcha mean by populated? People? Or the likes thereof? LOL!


If I were to move to Louisiana from anywhere else, except southern Arkansas, I would move to southern Louisiana. (Central and northern Louisiana are more like southern Arkansas than Louisiana. Hence, Shreveport sucks!)

I've worked in 3 different locales- Baton Rouge, New Orleans, and the Northshore (on opposite ends of the Northshore), and it seems like all of these areas would be more than happy to move a PRN employee up to full-time. So, if you can swing PRN for a little while until a position turns over, which happens quite a bit in hospital pharmacy around here, then you'll most likely get a full-time position as a staff or mixed clinical/staff pharmacist.

And add this to boot- I've never come across a residency-trained DOP. So, if you're still considering DOP, then you may be able to get a DOP job around here after you do some time (a few or more years) without having to do a residency.

 

[WVUPharm2007]

We have a Dave & Buster's as well up in Williamsville. Plus, you've talked several times before about how WVU sports teams are cursed. You'll feel right at home cheering for the Bills, Sabres, and as of last Saturday, the Bandits.

The Bills are going to move to Toronto within the next 10 years, I hate hockey, and I have no idea what sport these alleged "bandits" play for. Though I will take the Dave n' Buster's.

 

[WVUPharm2007]

Watcha mean by populated? People? Or the likes thereof? LOL!


If I were to move to Louisiana from anywhere else, except southern Arkansas, I would move to southern Louisiana. (Central and northern Louisiana are more like southern Arkansas than Louisiana. Hence, Shreveport sucks!)

I've worked in 3 different locales- Baton Rouge, New Orleans, and the Northshore (on opposite ends of the Northshore), and it seems like all of these areas would be more than happy to move a PRN employee up to full-time. So, if you can swing PRN for a little while until a position turns over, which happens quite a bit in hospital pharmacy around here, then you'll most likely get a full-time position as a staff or mixed clinical/staff pharmacist.

And add this to boot- I've never come across a residency-trained DOP. So, if you're still considering DOP, then you may be able to get a DOP job around here after you do some time (a few or more years) without having to do a residency.

Welll, David Simon did a show about Baltimore...and now he's doing one about New Orleans...maybe...

 

[Praziquantel86]

The Bills are going to move to Toronto within the next 10 years, I hate hockey, and I have no idea what sport these alleged "bandits" play for. Though I will take the Dave n' Buster's.

It's a fake sport - box lacrosse. Games are awesome, though.

 

[WVUPharm2007]

The VA makes you mail them your application? Really? Lame.

 

[aboveliquidice]

The VA makes you mail them your application? Really? Lame.

the VA is a haven for inept employees... I worked inpatient with 4 techs per shift. We serviced a ward with less than 15 patients at any given time. The ability of the VA to be inefficient will drive you mad mike.

 

[genesis09]

The Dave and Buster's in Milwaukee is right next to Walgreens Milwaukee Market Corporate headquarters. They are having issues with them because Dave and Buster's clientele is taking over the Walgreens/Discount Shoe Warehouse's parking lot. The corporate headquarters is on top of a 24 hr Walgreens Pharmacy.

 

[TemSirolimus]

Imagine waking up and finding out there was a leak and your floor is flooded, then you realize that your alarm didnt go off and you are late for work as it is. You dress up quick, hastily jump into the car and rush for work, only to spill the entire contents of the coffee cup on your lap half way to work.

you then decide to make a quick mobile-phone call to alert your boss of your tardiness while on the wheel... just in time for that state trooper to spot you and hand you a $200 ticket

now, you just lived in BUFFALO.

Stay away.

 

[IndustryPharmD]

Just happened to receive an e-mail from someone looking for a DOP in Newark. Wanna call them? They must be desperate if they contacted me, considering that I have never willingly set a foot in a hospital since I graduated. 😀

 

[Caverject]

the VA is a haven for inept employees... I worked inpatient with 4 techs per shift. We serviced a ward with less than 15 patients at any given time. The ability of the VA to be inefficient will drive you mad mike.

And you chose to come work for the military???

 

[WVUPharm2007]

...I ain't gettin' no phone calls...

Dammit, I'm going to wind up having to work at Medco or some ****...

...or I could snail mail an application to the VA. (lmao...internet...what internet...)

 

[WVUPharm2007]

Just happened to receive an e-mail from someone looking for a DOP in Newark. Wanna call them? They must be desperate if they contacted me, considering that I have never willingly set a foot in a hospital since I graduated. 😀

Don't look old enough. If they see me and are told I'm the DOP, they'd laugh heartily. Hell, I get strange looks when I tell people I'm a pharmacist...and that I've been one for a few years. My body forgot to start aging when I turned about 19 years old.

Oh, and that lack of experience thing...

How's industry going? I've always had that Rutgers fellowship in the back of my mind.

 

[aboveliquidice]

And you chose to come work for the military???

Yeah - Wait - you don't have techs rolling around in "hoverrounds" do ya?

I **** you not, she had a horn and a basket on the front. She made / delivered 2 IVs per hour.

Slow techs I can deal with - 4 techs to do the job of one was mind numbing.

 

[IndustryPharmD]

Don't look old enough. If they see me and are told I'm the DOP, they'd laugh heartily. Hell, I get strange looks when I tell people I'm a pharmacist...and that I've been one for a few years. My body forgot to start aging when I turned about 19 years old.

Eh, just imagine what its like being a young (at least, significantly younger than average age for people in my field at my level), tall, pretty (if I do say so myself) female and be taken seriously at first approach. Some of the medical conferences were the worst... when I would start talking, it would only take people a moment to realize that I do, in fact, know what I am talking about, but just walking around the poster session I would get all kinds of looks and all kinds of questions. 🙄 😀

Oh, and that lack of experience thing...

I am telling you they must be desperate. I have never even done institutional rotation, let alone worked in a hospital. I did only the two advanced clinical - critical care and solid organ transplantation - rotations. 😀 And haven't stepped inside a hospital pharmacy proper since my first year of pharmacy school when I had to do two weeks of shadowing to get a sense of what it is about. And will happily live out the rest of my working life without repeating that experience. 😀 There are few things in this life more boring than being in the IV room.

How's industry going? I've always had that Rutgers fellowship in the back of my mind.

Industry? Big pharma is shrinking, biotech is anywhere between failing and prospering. It's all about finding your niche. 🙂 You could always switch to industry, but the jobs they would offer you without business or industry experience would be all medical information-type jobs, and I don't know of a job more boring. Unless, I suppose, it was the IV room... 😀

 

[Ackj]

Imagine waking up and finding out there was a leak and your floor is flooded, then you realize that your alarm didnt go off and you are late for work as it is. You dress up quick, hastily jump into the car and rush for work, only to spill the entire contents of the coffee cup on your lap half way to work.

you then decide to make a quick mobile-phone call to alert your boss of your tardiness while on the wheel... just in time for that state trooper to spot you and hand you a $200 ticket

now, you just lived in BUFFALO.

Stay away.

I believe every city in the nation, and possibly Canada as well, has leaky roofs and malfunctioning alarm clocks. Moving away won't make you more able to hold on to your cup either.

If you're going to complain about Buffalo, at least mention realistic problems like Erie county taxes, disappointing sports teams, 6' snowstorms, etc. Besides, its Buffalo, its not like its Rochester or anything.

 

[TemSirolimus]

I believe every city in the nation, and possibly Canada as well, has leaky roofs and malfunctioning alarm clocks. Moving away won't make you more able to hold on to your cup either.

If you're going to complain about Buffalo, at least mention realistic problems like Erie county taxes, disappointing sports teams, 6' snowstorms, etc. Besides, its Buffalo, its not like its Rochester or anything.

I like the way you just missed the whole point behind the aggravating scenarios I posed. The events are imagined, not real.

I go to school in Buffalo and I just hate the place. There is nothing here, which explains why people around here adore their always losing teams. I am sure the fans would love to divorce the teams, but...there is nothing else here. Just a dying economy. On the upside, it is a perfect place to attend school, you have to look really hard for distractions.

 

[Ackj]

I like the way you just missed the whole point behind the aggravating scenarios I posed. The events are imagined, not real.

I go to school in Buffalo and I just hate the place. There is nothing here, which explains why people around here adore their always losing teams. I am sure the fans would love to divorce the teams, but...there is nothing else here. Just a dying economy. On the upside, it is a perfect place to attend school, you have to look really hard for distractions.

I think you also are missing something, either in my post, or somewhere in your life. No city is perfect; if you're not a happy person, its unlikely that moving will cheer you up. I made it 20 years without being bored, I've never had a hard time finding these distractions. You're 15 minutes from Niagara Falls and all that touristy stuff, we've got casinos, several bars are open 2 hours later than most cities, local bands playing just about every night of the week, several malls and restaurants, professional sports teams, 30-60 minutes from several ski resorts, two amusement parks, etc. I'll admit, we don't have much in the way of surfing, but come on, if you can manage to get more than a minute off of Millersport, you're bound to find something to do. If you can't manage, there's always Burrito Bay.

 

[Filler]

Just happened to receive an e-mail from someone looking for a DOP in Newark. Wanna call them? They must be desperate if they contacted me, considering that I have never willingly set a foot in a hospital since I graduated. 😀

LOL I work for a hospital pharmacy in Newark...wonder which one it is..

 

[WVUPharm2007]

I think you also are missing something, either in my post, or somewhere in your life. No city is perfect; if you're not a happy person, its unlikely that moving will cheer you up. I made it 20 years without being bored, I've never had a hard time finding these distractions. You're 15 minutes from Niagara Falls and all that touristy stuff, we've got casinos, several bars are open 2 hours later than most cities, local bands playing just about every night of the week, several malls and restaurants, professional sports teams, 30-60 minutes from several ski resorts, two amusement parks, etc. I'll admit, we don't have much in the way of surfing, but come on, if you can manage to get more than a minute off of Millersport, you're bound to find something to do. If you can't manage, there's always Burrito Bay.

...and you're right down the street from Toronto. Which is the most important thing.