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upon further researching, the character's name is meatwad--he is a meatball and not a roll of turd.
Meatwad. Meatwad. I like that name.
MeaTwad!!!!
I can just picture him saying depressing things in a squeaky sort of voice.
"Oh Meatwad you're wet!"
"Well Piglet, that's what happens when you've been in a river a long time."
MeaTwad!!!!
I can just picture him saying depressing things in a squeaky sort of voice.
"Oh Meatwad you're wet!"
"Well Piglet, that's what happens when you've been in a river a long time."
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deschutes said:Meatwad. Meatwad. I like that name.
MeaTwad!!!!
I can just picture him saying depressing things in a squeaky sort of voice.
"Oh Meatwad you're wet!"
"Well Piglet, that's what happens when you've been in a river a long time."
Indeed, meatwad does have a soft squeaky timid kind of voice.
I like the meatwad.
The meatwad is my hero.
Meatwad is the pimp.
deschutes said:
Nice to see everyone starting to refer to themselves in the third person. That is the first sign of insanity in some cultures, Yaah believes.
You know another reason path is great? I have now completed 5 weeks of residency and have had all of my weekends. Next weekend that ends because I have autopsy call, but still, autopsy call is much more preferable to any kind of medicine on call. Have to go in early, check the morgue, see if anyone is signed up to be my patient, call everyone else who cares, then go home, unless of course someone is signed up.
deschutes doesn't suffer from insanity; deschutes enjoys every minute of it. 😛yaah said:
I realize that you are posting to be informative. But I warn you that I may not be able to stop myself from wrestling all 6'5" of you to the ground and sitting on your stomach should you choose to do this in the eternity that I am on inpatient Teams.yaah said:
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deschutes said:
Fight! Fight! Fight!
Andy is well rested from his 16 hours of sleep post-call.
Andy is angry that work starts again in an hour.
Andy must preround on 3 patients. DOH!
deschutes said:
Well, I suffered through inpatient, so everyone else has to as well. I do feel bad for you, but realize that there is a light at the end of the tunnel. Ad astra per aspera, as my former Latin teacher who we called "Bubbles" would say. Why did we call her Bubbles? To this day, I am not totally sure, except it was passed down through the classes.
And since I'm tall though, you could just trip me and I'd probably topple right over.
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Ad aspira who?
Anyways, you'll get through it deschutes...I do feel sorry for you though because of what you have to go through. Doing medicine rotations as a senior medical student is much better I must say...and you'll get there shortly. Perhaps we should start a new thread called, "What we hate most about Internal Medicine rotations."
Oh wait, we see enough of that in the other threads 🙂
Anyways, you'll get through it deschutes...I do feel sorry for you though because of what you have to go through. Doing medicine rotations as a senior medical student is much better I must say...and you'll get there shortly. Perhaps we should start a new thread called, "What we hate most about Internal Medicine rotations."
Oh wait, we see enough of that in the other threads 🙂
Andy - 2 more threads about distaste for all things clinical.
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=119946
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=116738
Ad astra per aspera - To the stars through rough places, or, through struggle and conflict comes triumph. The way to renown is with a bit of suffering.
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=119946
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=116738
Ad astra per aspera - To the stars through rough places, or, through struggle and conflict comes triumph. The way to renown is with a bit of suffering.
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yaah said:
thanks yaah, reading through the posts on both threads was quite therapeutic.
Andy feels much better now.
Oh yeah. I was just being facetious. One occasionally gets the odd urge to wrestle people to the ground for no apparent reason. Don't you? 😀yaah said:
Rheumatology is quite the light! But it is coming too early to be the True End Of The Tunnel.
Who knows. The fulfillment of Teams may yet convert me to Internal. 🙄
Wasn't that phrase in "To Kill A Mockingbird"?yaah said:
"Mrs. Grace Merriweather had composed an original pageant entitled Maycomb County: Ad Astra Per Aspera, and I was to be a ham."
And since I'm short though, you'd probably fall over me without seeing me. It's been known to happen.yaah said:
But wrestling, in my experience, tends to be more fun. 😎
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deschutes said:
Consider it an out of body experience. You see the light, you meet god, god tells you it ain't time yet, and you return to life.
I'm watching Jeff Foxworthy now and he compared out of body experiences to fish who are caught by ice fishers (or whatever you call those hillbillies who sit on a frozen lake, poke a hole and go fishing) and thrown back into the lake...Fish is minding it's own business when suddenly it is caught and drawn towards the light. When it passes through the hole, it sees all its dead friends lying around and meets God who is wearing a flannel shirt and a budweiser cap. God tells the fish that it's not time yet and gets thrown in the lake.
deschutes said:
NO!!! FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!!! DON'T DO IT!
Na-ah. yaah is too much of a gentleman. 🙂 I need to pick on someone my own size.AndyMilonakis said:
SIXTEEN hours! Congratulations!!! You abso-totally deserve it!AndyMilonakis said:
Andy - from an MS4 to an MS3, when do you get your so-called "reading around your cases" done?
deschutes said:Wasn't that phrase in "To Kill A Mockingbird"?
"Mrs. Grace Merriweather had composed an original pageant entitled Maycomb County: Ad Astra Per Aspera, and I was to be a ham."
One of my favorite books AND movies (how often can you say that?).
What a great story. Stand up Miss Jean Louise, your father's passin' by.
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AndyMilonakis said:
If directions to your house include the phrase, "Turn off the paved road,"
If your mobile home is permanently fixed to the ground but your car is up on blocks,
If you've been to a funeral and there were more pickups than cars...
You might be a redneck.
Whoa. I know I've been here too long when I'm tempted to yell - "there's nothing wrong with pick-ups!"yaah said:
It's like best friends, I guess. I don't know if guys refer to "best friends", but I found the phrase "one of my best friends" to be an oxymoron.yaah said:
Oops I'm wibbling. Didn't mean to imply there was anything wrong with your sentence construction 😉
Loved the book. I don't have a copy now. I remember when I first read it, I didn't get half of the references ("having your tail in a crack" was doubly lost on me at the time)!
Always a little hesitant to watch a screen adaptation - although Girl With A Pearl Earring was quite quite stunning.
Don't be hesitant to watch Mockingbird as a movie. Gregory Peck plays Atticus. The girl playing Scout is annoying but then again, Scout is an annoying character. Go rent it now!!
And go rent Inherit the Wind while you're at it! And once you get that have a Stanley Kramer double feature and get Judgment at Nuremberg as well - Maximilian Schell is fantastic as the defense attorney.
And go rent Inherit the Wind while you're at it! And once you get that have a Stanley Kramer double feature and get Judgment at Nuremberg as well - Maximilian Schell is fantastic as the defense attorney.
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yaah said:
i'm downloading that movie now...it better be good 🙂
3 court cases, back-to-back! If this weekend is going to be as miserable as the last, I think I will run the movie marathon.yaah said:
One of the older movies I saw recently was Sliding Doors (Gwyneth Paltrow). Brilliant premise, if we forgive the movie-makers for doing that stereotypic run-down-the-hospital-corridor-with-a-bed-and-IV scene.
You know what other "old" film I was curious to watch? Last Tango In Paris. No butter jokes now.
Anyone watch HP3: Prisoner of Azkaban?
Count me in.AndyMilonakis said:
Gawd WHEN I AM A RESIDENT!!! I will no longer think twice about renting a movie.
yaah said:
FANTASTIC book AND movie!!
Scout is a bit of a pill, isn't she?
deschutes said:
Watching Last Tango in Paris was like having searing hot pokers placed ever so gently into my eyelids for two hours. It was enough to sour me on 1) movies and 2) Marlon Brando for a couple of weeks. They showed it in college at one of the weekly film series and my roommate dragged me. I nearly slipped on my own vomit on the way out. Some people claim to like it as a beautiful piece of art, one man's journey, etc, blah blah. Whatever. Just because some director is "daring" enough to show lots of naked people and have one of those naked people eat a rat doesn't mean it's art. Even if it is shot in Paris. Some people will claim a home video of a shirtless fat man sitting on a park bench feeding moldy bread to pigeons is art, so long as it is shot in Paris. Art freaks. Sheesh.
No butter jokes. And no rat jokes either (he eats ****ing rats in the movie).
At the end of the movie, the "movie rating" screen comes up, "This movie has been rated X"
No ****. I rated it SUCKED.
Inherit the wind, however. Glorious. The opening of Inherit the Wind ("Old time religion" with the religious folk marching on the school) is a wonderful scene. There's a bit of overacting but I forgive them all. Wanna know another great courtroom drama? 12 Angry Men. That was a classic.
Whoa! I can feel the bile from over here... 😀 Funnily enough, while I don't doubt your artistic sense, all that just makes me want to watch it even more.yaah said:
Wonder if I can get my roommate to watch it with me
Why is he eating rats. I thought he was reasonably well-off in the film.
yaah has my courtroom drama film education been lacking, or is it an ongoing point of enthusiasm on your part? I've never even heard of any of those films!
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I've never heard of those films either. Maybe they're like pornos or something. 🙂
Seriously speaking I wouldn't know anyway. I usually go for the action flicks or stupid comedies.
Seriously speaking I wouldn't know anyway. I usually go for the action flicks or stupid comedies.
That's correct. Quincy (aka Jack Klugman) is indeed one of the 12 angry men. He plays a sort of average joe.
Other cast:
Henry Fonda as the main character who ends up convincing everyone else.
Lee Cobb as the last holdout, a very angry bigot.
E.G. Marshall as the cool, smart, skeptical one.
Jack Warden as the guy who just wants to go to the ballgame.
Ed Begley Sr as the really bigoted guy.
I don't know, I guess I like courtroom dramas. Strange. Because I've been on two real juries and I came very close to falling asleep several times. Stultifyingly dull.
Other cast:
Henry Fonda as the main character who ends up convincing everyone else.
Lee Cobb as the last holdout, a very angry bigot.
E.G. Marshall as the cool, smart, skeptical one.
Jack Warden as the guy who just wants to go to the ballgame.
Ed Begley Sr as the really bigoted guy.
I don't know, I guess I like courtroom dramas. Strange. Because I've been on two real juries and I came very close to falling asleep several times. Stultifyingly dull.
My parents are lawyers. Unfortunately you won't get much money if you kidnap and ransom me - they do mostly (to my mind) boring things like loans and property. My point: if you thought clinicals = paperwork, hoo boy.yaah said:
Paper is wood. Wood is heavy. I've moved some mountains.
They have this strange habit of writing a half-page paragraph with no punctuation save a period at the end.
bente said:
Bente you sound like my kind of guy. That's why I used to watch love boat. Plus, I really liked the theme song.
I actually don't watch any tv courtroom dramas. The last one I watched was Picket Fences and that wasn't limited to courtrooms. Of course, I watched Picket Fences primarily for the girl who played the Sheriff's daughter. I don't really like courtroom dramas on tv, although if I do happen to catch one I usually am drawn in.
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yaah said:
Dude I'm with ya there. Should we add her onto the list that currently consists of Elizabeth Shue, Jennie Finch, etc?
O damn, what IS her name? I know she plays one of the 3 witches on that WB show "Charmed." Do you watch that show too by any chance?
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AndyMilonakis said:
Her name is Holly Marie Combs (not sure if I spelled it right - maybe Coombs?) and she is a goddess.
I have only seen charmed a couple of times, but IMHO she makes Allysa Milano and Shannen Doherty look common.
p.s.
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yaah said:Her name is Holly Marie Combs (not sure if I spelled it right - maybe Coombs?) and she is a goddess.
I have only seen charmed a couple of times, but IMHO she makes Allysa Milano and Shannen Doherty look common.
p.s.Guess which one is Jennie?
That's right! Seriously not being able to recall her name annoyed me to no end this morning. You spelled it right and yes she is a goddess.
Which one is Jennie? The one that's smiling right at you yaah!
Jennie is the absolutely totally freaking gorgeous one. 3rd from the right, 5th from the left. Note that also she is the one who is totally in focus. The camera man knows where the money is.
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yaah said:
She is hot. But I remember seeing her a few years ago when she was pitching in college. That's what I'm talking about...hot damn!
Here is Holly for the uninitiated.
Unfortunately Jennie is engaged to some loser pro baseball player, or so I have heard.
Unfortunately Jennie is engaged to some loser pro baseball player, or so I have heard.
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engaged? just engaged?
and you're giving up already?
strong work on the holly combs pic.
and you're giving up already?
strong work on the holly combs pic.
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I entered medical school not knowing F--- all (damn you LADoc00, you're making me spit out the F-bomb) what I wanted to do in terms of medical career. I only knew that I wanted to pursue full-time research eventually.
I guess I had a hunch that pathology COULD be for me when I was developing a list of potential PhD mentors with whom I would do a research rotation. I had two people in biochem and 5 people in pathology on my list. So I thought about pathology.
Soon thereafter, I found that I loved my first year pathology course. The teaching was most excellent and quite dynamic. This was the material which really clicked with me for some reason. I would go to the pathology lectures but skipped all others...another indirect sign.
Then there was second year...I never went to class but I would go to the pathology lab sessions in the afternoon where we would look at gross specimens and slides. Loved that stuff. Again, pathology was the bomb in my world.
Now M1 and M2 years for me was back in 1998-2000. Back then, people were telling me left and right about how the job market sucked and why physician-scientists should go into fields such as internal medicine and pediatrics. But at that point, I just took it all in, didn't care since I wouldn't have to make a final decision until several years later.
During grad school, my boss was a nephrologist. He would tell me over and over again, "You need to do a short-track internal medicine residency. The key for you is to do the shortest residency possible and then do a kickass postdoc." I blindly went along with that line of reasoning until I did my internal medicine rotation during 3rd year. I wanted to a gun to my head every single morning during that rotation...found out IM did not cater to my interests. During surgical rotations later during 3rd year such as Gen Surg and Gyn, I was lucky to have some good exposure to pathology. I would take specimens down to the frozen room and review slides with pathologists at tumor board meetings. This being a stark contrast to medicine and seeing how cool these pathology folks were, I found my home...I felt that I was destined to be a pathologist. My path rotation early in 4th year was just simply reaffirmation and icing on the cake.
If you like looking at slides and find that the life of a pathologist is something you like a lot, then perhaps pathology is for you 😀 👍
I guess I had a hunch that pathology COULD be for me when I was developing a list of potential PhD mentors with whom I would do a research rotation. I had two people in biochem and 5 people in pathology on my list. So I thought about pathology.
Soon thereafter, I found that I loved my first year pathology course. The teaching was most excellent and quite dynamic. This was the material which really clicked with me for some reason. I would go to the pathology lectures but skipped all others...another indirect sign.
Then there was second year...I never went to class but I would go to the pathology lab sessions in the afternoon where we would look at gross specimens and slides. Loved that stuff. Again, pathology was the bomb in my world.
Now M1 and M2 years for me was back in 1998-2000. Back then, people were telling me left and right about how the job market sucked and why physician-scientists should go into fields such as internal medicine and pediatrics. But at that point, I just took it all in, didn't care since I wouldn't have to make a final decision until several years later.
During grad school, my boss was a nephrologist. He would tell me over and over again, "You need to do a short-track internal medicine residency. The key for you is to do the shortest residency possible and then do a kickass postdoc." I blindly went along with that line of reasoning until I did my internal medicine rotation during 3rd year. I wanted to a gun to my head every single morning during that rotation...found out IM did not cater to my interests. During surgical rotations later during 3rd year such as Gen Surg and Gyn, I was lucky to have some good exposure to pathology. I would take specimens down to the frozen room and review slides with pathologists at tumor board meetings. This being a stark contrast to medicine and seeing how cool these pathology folks were, I found my home...I felt that I was destined to be a pathologist. My path rotation early in 4th year was just simply reaffirmation and icing on the cake.
If you like looking at slides and find that the life of a pathologist is something you like a lot, then perhaps pathology is for you 😀 👍
whispers said:
Loving slides helps - a lot of how you can tell is when you start doing your third year rotations and finding out where your interests lie. Are you more interested in the physical exam? The patient history? Morning Report? Following the biopsy to the lab? I always liked patients but truth be told it wasn't that intellectually stimulating to take care of them. I did a year of path (post soph fellowship) and found that was where I belong. It was a gradual realization though, not sudden. After a couple of months when things started to make more sense I realized that was the life for me.
i'm only a second year but everytime i think of doing something else, i go through the pros and cons and then find myself saying well what could i do where abc doesn't happen? and it ends up being path. i was torn about not getting to deal with patients especially since i have had fun at my peds precptorship but already patients are starting to get on my nerves and i haven't even staretd rotations! and then the number of residents that meet who moving from another specialty into path makes me think, yup- path. i am still going to explore other things that i have somewhere on my list but i bet it will be the same thing all over- back to path.
sapience8x said:
You're lucky--I didn't even consider path until the end of third year. But I think you're right to keep an open mind. I thought about probably almost every specialty before coming to the conclusion that path is the only field for me. And I'm glad I did--no wondering "what if I would have been better off as an X" later. BTW, have you noticed that a good deal of the folks who switch specialties into path come from surgery and OB?
whispers said:
That's a sign...a little twisted, but a sign....just kidding. The first autopsy I saw was at the Medical Examiner's Office in college as an undergrad...the people there were cool as sh#!....I've known for years that was my calling. Forensics is usually a love/hate relationship, but I guess it could go that way with slides also. Best of luck to ya!! 😀
FindingMyself said:
actualy internal medicine/ primary care and i met one from psych.
I always enjoyed using the microscope (was one of a few of the med tech students who actually enjoyed performing a manual WBC differential), but it wasn't until cytology training that I seriously considered medical school to go into pathology. I liked the fact that the fellow was running the tumor board conference, and explaining the microscopic findings to everyone. She was actively involved in teaching, and I love that aspect of pathology, too.
So far, I haven't found anything that I enjoy half as much, and I couldn't imagine waking up each day doing anything else.
So far, I haven't found anything that I enjoy half as much, and I couldn't imagine waking up each day doing anything else.
Brian Pavlovitz said:
I predict that, "So far" will continue! You can pretty much tell from your first clinical rotation, as although they are somewhat different, they're all still clinical and thus similar enough. Even radiology still has the environment and atmosphere of being too clinical. Of course, some people like this. 😕
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Havarti666 said:
What are you, like 47?
I still can't properly explain when I knew Path was for me. Even now, it's not as if Path is the absolutely only specialty that could make me happy. I think there are others that would make a good career for me too, but I had to pick just one, and that was Path. Radiology, OB/GYN and ER are other fields that I have strongly considered, but Path comes out a little ahead of them all, so that's where I am now.
That's not to say that I don't believe Path is a very special field; I do. It combines a lot of interesting aspects (intellectual, inquisitive, hands-on, consultative) into one field. But there are other cool fields too.
And I quote LADoc00 😉 "What are you doing a fellowship for, retirement??"Havarti666 said:
Some of us were still, indeed, in our jammies.
Has no one has linked this thread to the Eureka! thread yet??
deschutes said:
Good idea. Now the two are one! We can peruse at our leisure.
yaah has mad linkin' skillz.
Hey, let's play link the salary threads!
Hey, let's play link the salary threads!
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