Advanced EKG books?

[EMApplicant]

Any suggestions for a good resident level EKG book? Thanks!

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[DrQuinn]

The Art of 12 Lead EKG Interpretation, by Garcia. By far the best EKG book ever, and it has full 12 lead EKGs. I read it before residency and was far better than any of my colleagues in EKG readings. Highly recommended. Do a search on Amazon for it.

Make sure you buy the more expensive version, not the intro.

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[EctopicFetus]

The Art of 12 Lead EKG Interpretation, by Garcia. By far the best EKG book ever, and it has full 12 lead EKGs. I read it before residency and was far better than any of my colleagues in EKG readings. Highly recommended. Do a search on Amazon for it.

Make sure you buy the more expensive version, not the intro.

Q

I bought this and have read some of it. It is real real good.

 

[BKN]

The Art of 12 Lead EKG Interpretation, by Garcia. By far the best EKG book ever, and it has full 12 lead EKGs. I read it before residency and was far better than any of my colleagues in EKG readings. Highly recommended. Do a search on Amazon for it.

Make sure you buy the more expensive version, not the intro.

Well, it's actually a pretty difficult subject made more so by how often the electrocardiographers themselves can't agree on an interpretation and pick something out of context. Further, younger cardiologists don't care about the subject that much having gone on to images, wires, etc.

For us there are two issues, rhythm, conduction and muscle. (Nobody expects the spanish . . .) I haven't found a good beginning level book for all three. For conduction and muscle, everyone starts with Dubin's. For rhythm start with the ACLS text. Be at this level when you arrive at your residency or get the hairy eyeball from your faculty.

Then the intermediate level: The classic was Practical Electrocardiography by Marriott, all IM residents and savvy EM residents read it. Unfortunately, when Dr Marriott died and a new author took it on, the quality went way down. However, there are many copies of the earlier editions, which should be cheap on Ebay. In fact I just looked at ebay and there are several for very low prices. I would look for the editions in the 80s and early 90s. Look for the exact title above, editions titled Marriott's Practical Electrocardiography are from after his death.

I have glanced at Garcia and agree it's a excellent book with great ECGs. It's written by a EP and attempts to teach to all levels which can be unwieldy. EMTs, nurses and med students may get sidetracked by the advanced stuff. More advanced readers may be a little annoyed trying to get to the difficult stuff. Overall though, I'd give it 4.5 stars.

Speaking of the advanced stuff, I read an early edition of Chou's Electrocardiography in Clinical Practice to prepare for the ACC ECG certification exam. This was after I had already been practicing for 20 years, had read Marriott"s and thought I knew how to read an ecg. I learned tons. Particularly nice was that each and every one of those many weird little ecg diagnoses had an exact set of requirements for the diagnosis. for example, the chapter on LVH went through all 11 sets of criteria that have been proposed and dealt with the sens (low) and spec (better) of each.

For advanced rhythms, the only way to get good at them is to read hundreds of ecgs. Often your school's cardiology department will have a teaching file. Edward Chung had both a good book on it and a CD with lots of very difficult and interesting ones. Don't know if he's still offering it, the version I got was kind of a cross between DOS and GUI, It took some working to get to the images, but it was really worth it.

 

[margaritaboy]

The Art of 12 Lead EKG Interpretation, by Garcia. By far the best EKG book ever, and it has full 12 lead EKGs. I read it before residency and was far better than any of my colleagues in EKG readings. Highly recommended. Do a search on Amazon for it.

Make sure you buy the more expensive version, not the intro.

Q

Blah blah blah. Quinn always answers this question by saying how great Garcia's book is. I had thought all EKG books were more or less the same, until I actually purchased the same EKG book Quinn has. What can I say, Garcia's Art of EKG interpretation is the shiznit. It is definitly better than what I had before, and I think it has appropriate focus for the EM physician.

 

[Apollyon]

I have glanced at Garcia and agree it's a excellent book with great ECGs. It's written by a EP and attempts to teach to all levels which can be unwieldy. EMTs, nurses and med students may get sidetracked by the advanced stuff. More advanced readers may be a little annoyed trying to get to the difficult stuff. Overall though, I'd give it 4.5 stars.

For that same reason, though, the Garcia book says to go through it 3 times, as basic, intermediate, and advanced. I think that this format is helpful because you can indeed get sidetracked. I think the book is THE BOMB!

 

[12R34Y]

The Art of 12 Lead EKG Interpretation, by Garcia. By far the best EKG book ever, and it has full 12 lead EKGs. I read it before residency and was far better than any of my colleagues in EKG readings. Highly recommended. Do a search on Amazon for it.

Make sure you buy the more expensive version, not the intro.

Q

I cannnot TELL you HOW MUCH I LOVE THAT BOOK! I was a paramedic for year and had been reading 12-leads and knew a little bit but this book takes you all the way to sweet king of EKG's.

can't recommend it enough!

later

 

[JackBauERfan]

I cannnot TELL you HOW MUCH I LOVE THAT BOOK! I was a paramedic for year and had been reading 12-leads and knew a little bit but this book takes you all the way to sweet king of EKG's.

can't recommend it enough!

later

Just bought this one and the one by Marriot BKN recommended, thanks! Now all I have to do is learn the stuff!

 

[DrMom]

I cannnot TELL you HOW MUCH I LOVE THAT BOOK! I was a paramedic for year and had been reading 12-leads and knew a little bit but this book takes you all the way to sweet king of EKG's.

can't recommend it enough!

later

I agree!

 

[nuke laloosh]

let me throw in a plug for "ECGs for the Emergency Physician: by Mattu and Brady.

Very focused, high yield, and practical.

 

[DrQuinn]

Blah blah blah. Quinn always answers this question by saying how great Garcia's book is. I had thought all EKG books were more or less the same, until I actually purchased the same EKG book Quinn has. What can I say, Garcia's Art of EKG interpretation is the shiznit. It is definitly better than what I had before, and I think it has appropriate focus for the EM physician.

If you read the fine print on the cover, it says "Published by Quinn Enterprises." Its just one of the many small ways I am trying to take over the world and become Emporer. <- (my bid on "independently wealthy).

Q

 

[Apollyon]

If you read the fine print on the cover, it says "Published by Quinn Enterprises." Its just one of the many small ways I am trying to take over the world and become Emporer. <- (my bid on "independently wealthy).

Q

Good thing you haven't hit up the literacy market yet.

Unless you have....hmm....

 

[kbrown]

The Art of 12 Lead EKG Interpretation, by Garcia. By far the best EKG book ever, and it has full 12 lead EKGs. I read it before residency and was far better than any of my colleagues in EKG readings. Highly recommended. Do a search on Amazon for it.

Make sure you buy the more expensive version, not the intro.

Q

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0763712841/103-8749609-4043000?v=glance&n=283155

is this the correct one Quinn, or anyone else???

 

[DrMom]

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0763712841/103-8749609-4043000?v=glance&n=283155

is this the correct one Quinn, or anyone else???

That's the one

 

[southerndoc]

I also highly recommend Chou's book. It's definitely the best EKG book I've read.

 

[kbrown]

That's the one

thanks mom

 

[roja]

The Art of 12 Lead EKG Interpretation, by Garcia. By far the best EKG book ever, and it has full 12 lead EKGs. I read it before residency and was far better than any of my colleagues in EKG readings. Highly recommended. Do a search on Amazon for it.

Make sure you buy the more expensive version, not the intro.

Q

I can't say enougha bout this book. I also bought the dysrythmia book but ended up never using it because this one is so amazing. truly gave me a good and deep understanding of EKG's. I love it. LOVE it.

 

[Febrifuge]

So the growing consensus seems to be, if my Dubin has somehow gone missing, I should just replace it with the Garcia? Yes? Ya think?

 

[SoCuteMD]

So the growing consensus seems to be, if my Dubin has somehow gone missing, I should just replace it with the Garcia? Yes? Ya think?

I Dubin. But I s'pose that once I'm not a med student I will have to abandon it for another book. For now, however, knowledge of what that Dubin has to say appears to impress any physician who knows that I'm an MS1.

 

[Hercules]

So the growing consensus seems to be, if my Dubin has somehow gone missing, I should just replace it with the Garcia? Yes? Ya think?

That and I have to admit that picking up a copy of Dubin just kind of creeps me out with what he did. I'm sure there are plenty other examples of bad people who put out good texts, but I don't know about those so they don't bother me.

 

[BKN]

That and I have to admit that picking up a copy of Dubin just kind of creeps me out with what he did. I'm sure there are plenty other examples of bad people who put out good texts, but I don't know about those so they don't bother me.

OK, give it up. What's the back story?

 

[SoCuteMD]

OK, give it up. What's the back story?

He apparently had quite the collection of kiddie porn.

I only found out after I bought the book.

 

[BKN]

He apparently had quite the collection of kiddie porn.

I only found out after I bought the book.

Ugh. Garcia it is.

 

[SoCuteMD]

Ugh. Garcia it is.

I haven't looked at Garcia, but I would guess that Dubin is not exactly up to resident/attending level. A good intro book, though. I encourage people I know to buy it...used.

 

[tkim]

http://www.nostatusquo.com/ACLU/NudistHallofShame/Dubin.html

Doctor's arrest upsets his nudist neighbors
ST. PETER5BURG TIMES, 1986
By ADAM NOSSITER, St. Petersburg Times Staff Writer

LAND O'LAKES-Resident of a Pasco nudist resort are "extremely upset' about the jailing of one of their neighbors, Dr. Dale Dubin, on child pornography charges, a resort official said Monday.
Dubin, a well-known plastic surgeon in Tampa, bought a $104,000 condominium in the Paradise Lakes resort in 1984 but rarely used it, vice president Chuck Foster said. The luxuriously furnished condominium was searched by postal authorities last Mondav but they found no pornography, the official said.
But in a search of Dubin's $310,000 house in Lutz, police found more than 200 explicit films and videotapes, including videos of preteens in sexual acts. Dubin, 46 was arrested and jailed last Monday night in Tampa. On Friday, he surprised his lawyers by opting not to seek bail, and is now in the custody of U.S. Marshals at a secret location.
He was charged with two counts of receiving child pornography through the mail and one count of using the mail to distribute obscene material.
Although few at the resort knew him, the residents are "very upset, extremely upset, because they don't want any black mark on our community," Fosler said in an interview.
Paradise Lakes, the second largest nudist resort in the country, is self-conscious about its image. The 4-year-old resort bills itself as a family place, and a sign by the swimming pool says overt sexual behavior is not allowed. "Overt sexuality is not condoned," a brochure says. Applicants are screened before being allowed in, according to the brochure.
Both Foster and general manager James Lake said Dubin came to his condominium only a few times during the year. Neighbors said they never saw him.
"The man's a recluse," Foster said. He said he had never met the doctor.
Dubin has already been barred from the club, and the condominium owners association will consider his expulsion at its next meeting, said Foster.
Residents have been thankful that the doctor's connection to Paradise Lakes had so far not been noted, Foster said. "We have to be protective as far as the people who live here are concerned," he said. "They like to be anonymous." Dale Dubin Sentenced To Five Years
Proprietary to the United Press International 1987
March 7, 1987

A federal judge sentenced millionaire plastic surgeon Dale B. Dubin to five years in prison for what the judge called an obsession with pornography and cocaine that turned the doctor's life into a tragedy.
U.S. District Judge William J. Castagna told Dubin at a sentencing hearing Friday he could not see how a ''person of your talent, ability, education and interest in art,'' could have turned his life into such a ''tragedy and waste of such a rare and needed talent.''
Dubin pleaded guilty six weeks ago to 22 counts of child pornography and cocaine charges.
Eleven of the drug counts involved a 16-year-old girl who was seduced by Dubin with the help of pills and vodka and eventually agreed to participate in sexual encounters with Dubin, another 17-year-old girl and a 23-year-old woman.
Dubin videotaped some of the encounters for his pleasure. The incidents took place at two of his condominiums and the Pasco County nudist resort of Paradise Lake.
He is expected to serve his time in a minimum security facility where he will be able to receive drug counseling.
U.S. Attorney Robert W. Merkle, who prosecuted the case, told Castagna that no crimes ''are more violent than the use of child pornography and the distribution of narcotics.'' He said Dubin's attempt to minimize his activities as just a ''lifestyle'' was a ''new low in euphemisms.''
Merkle said it was particularly aggravating that Dubin used his medical knowledge to satisfy his own appetite and risk the lives and mental health of his victims.
Dubin, 47, stood with his head bowed throughout the 40-minute hearing Friday. Except for a few mumbled words about a letter to the judge, he did not say anything.
In that letter, Dubin complained of the ''lurid display'' of his case by prosecutors and claimed details of his activities were ''egregiously distorted'' by the press. He also spoke of his sexual escapades as examples of ''an occasional clandestine soiree.''
Dubin was arrested Aug. 11 at the mansion in Lutz, Fla. he called Hassle Free, after being sucked into a child pornography sting by sending off a $100 bill to buy films including ''Barbarian Girls.''
The Dubin story received extensive news coverage as his doctors unsuccessfully tried to have him committed to a mental hospital for treatment of what they called potentially suicidal depression, and Merkle countered by adding details of the case into the court record.

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I am not a nudist.

 

[BKN]

That's outrageous. I can't believe that a plastic surgeon had the nerve to write an ECG book.

 

[tkim]

I can't believe he paid $100 for a movie titled "Barbarian Girls."

Oh, and I am not a nudist.

 

[Jeff698]

Oh, and I am not a nudist.

Yeah, but do you play one on the internet?

 

[tkim]

Yeah, but do you play one on the internet?

Why, isn't *everyone* naked while surfing the 'net? I know I am.

 

[DrQuinn]

Funny thing is, I know quite a few of our nurses who go to that nudist resort.

And yes, they are nudists.

And I am the nude moderator.
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[mellow yellow]

Don't waste your money actually purchasing an ECG text. The best resource available anywhere is available free online!

http://ecg.bidmc.harvard.edu/maven/mavenmain.asp

This website has >270 cases all with zoomable EKGs and clinical history, many with accompanying caths and echos, and ALL with excellent explanations. Difficulty level ranges from med student to cards fellow level. Hope y'all enjoy!