The real question is are those guys making 300K working a regular 9 - 5 or 60 hours plus 2-3 more hours dictating every night.
Doc I worked with did 9-5 M-F...1 weekend call per month covering the hospital. He would stay on Fridays until 630 or so finishing notes that he may have open but his EMR, while dated, was very efficient so he was able to finish all his notes on time most days. He also incorporated some procedures in his practice..basic PFTs, cryo for simple lesions, shave biopsies, etc...though he did this more as a service to patients as the reimbursement rates made some procedures more time consuming than anything. Everything was done in house..in terms of labs and vaccinations..and he has pretty good relationships with the specialists in town as well as an imaging center and physical therapy group. He has a pretty sweet gig..but I'm sure he put in tough work on the front end to get his practice to where it is at currently.
Depending on your setup, procedures can be a money loser. For example, it would take 2 joint injections to equal the amount of money I get seeing 1 patient. Now doing the injection itself is very fast, but the setup can take time if your staff isn't efficient about it.
No body is holding a gun to anyone's head to go into medicine. If you are capable of getting signed to the NFL you should do that. Bankers put in many hours without the stability in medicine, and crab fishermen, and many people with manual jobs and other physically demanding and dangerous jobs put in lots of hours for less pay. Your comments make you seem like you have never actually experienced poverty or worked multiple manual labor jobs for very little pay. American doctors btw are some of the best reimbursed in the world, and yet our patients and population has little gains to show for compared to other industrialized nations.
Irrelevant tirades like yours seriously degrade the quality of this website. If you're not going to contribute something meaningful and helpful then please don't comment.
Eleventy billion dollars
Okay this makes it a troll post. That answers a lot of questions
Dude you have zero clue how the world works. Do you honestly think a doc deserves 15 mil? Imagine paying all the docs that much, not to mention even more for specialists and such. Do you think that would help public perception of docs anyway? There is no way salaries are gonna magically plummet. Otherwise nobody would go into medicine and people would die. Sure people outside medicine are overpaid but that doesn't mean we deserve that much. Even with that 250k number I will be making more than both parents and grandparents combined. 250k for even the worst of the grads that match is unbelievable.
You being a realist is the problem. You're a passive person. You won't do anything for the reimbursement situation. You're passive and just go wherever the wind carries you. Because that's life for you. I oppose the wind. I oppose an unfair life. I want things to become better for those that truly deserve it. This is not a matter of taking from the rich and give to the poor. This is a matter of empowering those that should have it better. And physicians, when their conditions and experiences have been adjusted and contrasted to the likes of Bieber, are those that need to be empowered.
Idk man I'm pretty damn happy with my (likely) 300+k job minimum with the best job security on the planet. If you have had any sort of exposure to how the rest of the world lives, you would realize how much that truly is. Instead, you 'opposing the wind' comes off as a whiny entitled brat who just wants money because "med school is hard :/". Life ain't fair cupcake good luck with your battle. I'm out
Even ignoring all of that, physicians just don't generate that much money.
So you think Doctors should get reimbursed like Musicians and Athletes. News flash, for every one beiber there is there are hundreds of thousands of beiber equivalents waiting tables. For every Athlete there are hundreds of thousands of people not nearly as good enough. So basically there is one DR. OZ and there are hundreds of thousands of other doctors. There are already doctors that make that kind of money. They dont play in league that majority of doctors play in.
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It takes a high level of brain power (not genius, but not just "above average" either) to score high enough on the MCAT and get good grades in college. The vast majority of the population would have 0 chance at getting into med school. The raw genetic talent isn't there, that's a hard concrete fact. Ive seen people who were at least average in talent get insane tutoring + study nonstop and still did poorly vs other premeds who studied far less. You can compensate for a slight lack of talent via extreme hard work but that only works when you're batting close to the league. Not playing in a different one.
There are definitely some surgeons who have made 8 figures in 1 year. It's possible if you're a top end plastics, a top of the line workhorse spine surgeon or optho.
Family doctors are not making 7 figures seeing patients
Agreed. No one is debated or questioning how economics works. All we're saying is that nearly every celebrity (actors, models, singers etc.) got their break largely based on luck
I got into medical school based on luck too. I’m sure of it
Of course luck plays a role in a little bit of everything, but for med school you had to meet very specific requirements to have a chance. Do you really think everything in the entertainment industry is based off of who worked the hardest?
I think hard work plays a very big part in being successful in entertainment. A lot of big strong athletes are not quite good enough and have to work extremely hard just to be average in the NFL. Faith Hill waited tables for years before breaking through. Sure, nobody gets anywhere without some help. It's why I always try to pay it forward.
I was talking less about athletes more about actors I guess. Luck and who you know plays a much greater role, then say sports or medicine.
I consider athletes entertainers, like dancing bears. But I get your point.
The person was talking total revenue, aka billings. So yes there would some billing that much.
Those athletes are still extremely talented that they're allowed to the party.
