Employment Background Check for Residency

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Hello Everyone!

I was previously employed at a clinic owned by a regional medical system. My employment was terminated because a doctor tricked me into completing a CME for her (some computer based thing that looked like a lecture powerpoint). The doctor gave me a website to log into, gave me her password & log in information. She asked me to complete the assignment on the website, and "let her know what I thought." Being motivated and intellectually curious, I read through the thing and answered the simple questions at the end. When I was done, I told my manager that I had gotten everything correct, and she asked to see what I was talking about. Turns out, it was something I wasn't supposed to be doing! Woops! I cooperated fully with the company's investigation. But, at the end of it, both the doctor and I were terminated. The doctor did not lose her license, she is currently working in private practice.

There really isn't anything more to my part of the story, and I'm not sure what I could have done to prevent this from happening. I was really young (just out of college) and a glorified personal assistant at the time- there was no way I was going to know A) what a CME even was or B) the significance of it to a doctor's ongoing medical training. I know the doctor in question was highly disliked by the hospital administration. I think they used this incident as a convenient way to get rid of her, and couldn't do so justifiably (aka without risking a law suit) without punishing me too. I know the doctor sued for wrongful termination, but I'm not sure how the case panned out.

My question is about pre-employment background checks. When I graduate medical school (I was recently accepted!), it will be 2020. Most VA employment background checks ask for 7 years of employment history. I was terminated at the end of June in 2013... Just barely within the 7 year window if I'm filling out paperwork in the middle of March. Do I need to/ should I include this? Is there any chance the search will be from the beginning of the residency program (like, from July 2013-July 2020)? I only need a couple days of leeway hahaha!

The only issue is the VA background check. I looked through a bunch of state's licensing forms, and nothing in them would compel me to mention this incident. To be clear, if there is a question like "have your hospital privileges every been suspended/ revoked?" or "have you ever been disciplined by an oversight committee?" the answer to both is "no." I was a low level employee (like, medical secretary level). I never had any hospital privileges, and did not have a professional license, so I was never under the jurisdiction of an oversight committee.

Also, all of my managers felt terrible for me. They all offered to provide references if I needed them. One of them even wrote a glowing LOR for me for medical school. I'm not mad, either- it gave me the opportunity/ motivation I needed to finally finish my pre-reqs and apply.

I've scoured other forums on here for a similar situation. The only one that came close was from a guy who was terminated for violating HIPAA, and could not get a job at the VA afterwards. It wasn't exactly analogous, because his termination occurred far more recently than mine.

Thanks for any feedback/ help you can give me! I'm just looking for options. I definitely have considered contacting a lawyer for help, I'm just not sure what they could do.

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Just wow!
Sorry, I don't have an answer to your question, but this has got to be the saddest thing I've read all day...
You sound like a great guy/gal and I really hope things work out well for you!

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Just wow!
Sorry, I don't have an answer to your question, but this has got to be the saddest thing I've read all day...
You sound like a great guy/gal and I really hope things work out well for you!

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Thanks! That's very kind of you!
 
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It's a bit early to worry about the possibility of needing a VA background check in 2020, especially given that you were not in medicine at the time...at least for this issue. Don't worry about it. If you are told to provide info on old jobs going that far back, provide the info requested. They may or may not even verify stuff from pre-med years. If you get accepted into a residency program, I can't see how this would make you lose your position. Getting fired from a job before going into medicine does not make you ineligible to work as a physician.
 
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It's a bit early to worry about the possibility of needing a VA background check in 2020, especially given that you were not in medicine at the time...at least for this issue. Don't worry about it. If you are told to provide info on old jobs going that far back, provide the info requested. They may or may not even verify stuff from pre-med years. If you get accepted into a residency program, I can't see how this would make you lose your position. Getting fired from a job before going into medicine does not make you ineligible to work as a physician.

Agree. I don't see how this can possibly matter later on. Since you didn't have any type of medical license/certification/scope of practice, etc, it seems to be the equivalent of a grocery bagger getting fired.
 
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It's a bit early to worry about the possibility of needing a VA background check in 2020, especially given that you were not in medicine at the time...at least for this issue. Don't worry about it. If you are told to provide info on old jobs going that far back, provide the info requested. They may or may not even verify stuff from pre-med years. If you get accepted into a residency program, I can't see how this would make you lose your position. Getting fired from a job before going into medicine does not make you ineligible to work as a physician.

Thank you so much for responding. That is very reassuring.

Also, sorry for not cross posting this properly!
 
Agree. I don't see how this can possibly matter later on. Since you didn't have any type of medical license/certification/scope of practice, etc, it seems to be the equivalent of a grocery bagger getting fired.

Hahahahaha. Thank you for this reassuring insight : )
 
Always disclose anything that you think matters. It looks far worse for something to show up and you didn't disclose. If it doesn't show up, they probably won't investigate any further - at least my program directors typically didn't look at disclosures until the background check came back positive. In other words, they get the background checks, if it's all clear, then they don't think twice about it and move on.
 
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Always disclose anything that you think matters. It looks far worse for something to show up and you didn't disclose. If it doesn't show up, they probably won't investigate any further - at least my program directors typically didn't look at disclosures until the background check came back positive. In other words, they get the background checks, if it's all clear, then they don't think twice about it and move on.

Thank you! That is definitely something I will keep in mind!
 
Hello every1 , I need some serious advice and please all those hav negative comments plz don't comment as I am in a bit of a fix , while during my stay in America I was arrested and charged with retail theft but it was a big miss understanding, I was in a store had some things in my hand , my cell phone rang and I went to answer cause the connection was bad , I stepped outside store , the store people came out and they thought I was leaving with things , I only stepped out didn't walk away or anything , I tried to explain that it was a misunderstanding and that I did not leave store to steal but to answer phone and it was mistake they didn't listen , called the police and the police took me , I was fingerprinted and then given court date , when I appeared before the judge my case was closed and dismissed as there was no evidence and also because the judge believed me that it was sheer bad luck and I wasn't sort to do sumthing like that . I have no criminal conviction , no probation , no fine the case was simplly dismissed . The arrest is still on record . This was nightmare for me , cause I have to apply for residency this year . I talked to immigration attorneys to see how this would affect me getting visa they all said it will not be problem as case was dropped . My step 1 , 2 and cs are all pass , and I have good decent score in all .
I am now very much afraid about what will happen , eras asks if u have been convicted of any misdemeanour or felonys and my answer to both is no cause I wasn't but my attest will come on back ground checks , I don't know what to do and what my chances are now .
I talked to few people they said it will not be problem , but I am miserable cause I have worked very hard for this , my nights and days are restless I am purely miserable .
Please guide me and since I am already so much scared please refrain from negative comments .
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Also I'm sorry I'm new to SDN so I'm still figuring my way around , about how to use this.
Any input and help would be much appreciated
 
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