hi Abhi
Congratulations! And all the very best!
Congratulations! And all the very best!
pepsi said:hi Abhi
Congratulations! And all the very best!
hey future classmatespepsi said:yep even i am waiting for the info packet. I spoke with Ms. Richardson last week and she said that they will be posting it this week...
by whn do we have to send the vaccination reports?nimeshshingala said:hey future classmates
i just recieved my ucsf packet from ms barbara richardson
asking me to confirm my acceptance by 20th december and deposit 1000 dollars
also need to send my vaccination reports like hepatitis etc etc
i have already taken out the cheque and it is on its way to san francisco
good luck to you guys
all the best to u abhi. last year , a lot of people who were on the alternate list got accepted.ABHI said:Today I received regular mail from UCSF.I am on middle priority alternate list, hoping for the best to happen.
Ann 03 said:thanks ram
the past year has definitely been a major struggle. yeah i am partying
Thank you Ann.... I hope this year also alternate list moves in the same way..Ann 03 said:all the best to u abhi. last year , a lot of people who were on the alternate list got accepted.
good luck .
mrcanine said:Hi friends,
I am new here and its a great place to discuss about the schools and admissions.
I got a snail mail today stating thta I am on the high priority alternate list.
I want to know if anyone already accepted in other schools besides UCSF is willing to opt the other one.
It will be very helpfull for all of us waiting to know if the list moves atall or else we can plan with other things.
thanks a lot in advance..
docontherun said:I got accepted to USC and UCSF and I'm debating between them, but I might choose USC but not sure!
MTJ said:docontherun
i'm in the same situation and was wondering why are you choosing usc over ucsf ?
krishna said:Hi friends,
If I were in ur shoes I would have taken USC without a second thought.I feel one should be through with the clinical work for which we r paying more than 150K and this is best possible in USC(considered for the highest income from the dental patients in the westcoast)and post grad chances are the same from both(and we don`t know how things are gonna be with us after two good years).
I am waitlisted in USC and I think I should not suggest u this but thats the truth
goodluck with ur schools
Hi,solafide74 said:Hi, international. I always thank you for your dedication to this forum.
I have a question here.
As you mention, I heard that there are enough patient pool to practice.
But , do you think that there are many opportunities for researches,etc to prepare post-graduate study in UCSF?
In the interview, I heard that the school life is too busy to prepare residency like having a research experience. And some of candidates in the interview told me that that will not be good for the further education.
Thanks in advance for your reply.
CONGRATULATIONSSSamalgam72 said:hi everybody, i got my acceptence letter a day before yesterday. i had lost the hope because many got admission before a week. i am excited and relieved. congrates to all those who are accepted and those who are still waiting , please don`t lose hope.
hi international, i really appreciate the help you are providing to every one on SDN , i mean how can you get so much time for guiding others? i have been reading your thread and posts for last 4 to 5 weeks and i must tell you that i am qiuite late in appreciating your helping hand for everybody.international said:CONGRATULATIONSSS
Hi,solafide74 said:Thank you international for your quick response.
I want to clear my misunderstanding About "And some of candidates in the interview told me that that will not be good for the further education".
I just wanted to hear from real person.
I did not mean to underestimate UCSF program.
And I truly take your advice.
Thanks again.
Hi international,international said:Hi,
As i mentioned in my previous posting that i didnt understand what u mean and u posted the same thing again. "And some of candidates in the interview told me that that will not be good for the further education". I wasnt to know what is THAT in that sentense u r addressing.
naina said:Hi international,
i have a question for u too,do u know by anychance the fees structure in usc and ucsf..i heard its very expensive in ucsf..
thanks in advance..
naina.
solafide74 said:Hi, international. I always thank you for your dedication to this forum.
I have a question here.
As you mention, I heard that there are enough patient pool to practice.
But , do you think that there are many opportunities for researches,etc to prepare post-graduate study in UCSF?
In the interview, I heard that the school life is too busy to prepare residency like having a research experience. And some of candidates in the interview told me that that will not be good for the further education.
Thanks in advance for your reply.
wht do u mean by the living expenses projected is not enough , i thought 20,ooo per yr was enough .infact uop shows living expenses to be less than ucsf and it is located in a more expensive area(i think)krishna said:Hi naina,
I don`t know if I can help you with ur question.Surely International can put in better words.
The fee in UCSF is more than USC and also the SF living is expensive.
My friends in UCSF tell me that the loan(for living)is hardly enough for them though the public transport is good.If u live near the school then the housing is expensive.
so totally the figures become too biiiiiiiiiiiiiig(This is what I hear from them always).
goodluck with ur admission.
Ann 03 said:wht do u mean by the living expenses projected is not enough , i thought 20,ooo per yr was enough .infact uop shows living expenses to be less than ucsf and it is located in a more expensive area(i think)
some1 studying in ucsf pls confirm this. i hope u r wrong krishna
international said:Hi,
The point u mentioned is absolutely right. But i have a point which u all might not know. One day per week in the first year and 4 days per week in the second year, all UCSF IDP student will spend at Buchanon Dental Hospital which is only for IDP. That hospital is used to be for GPR and AEGD program students and UCSF has no more of those programs and only IDP will enjoy all the incentives of that. At Buchanon, u will have assistants( Not for procedures like scaling and root planning) and scheduling is done by the front office and less paper work.
I am not here to support UCSF or degrade some other school, but i think both are good schools and i personally feel u shouldnt base ur decision between USC and UCSF on patient pool for IDP. U can consider other apects and decide.
All the best
drpulp said:Hi international,
I am sure u r a student of UCSF and its obvious that u will love ur school .
But I think alL the california schools are equally good and UCLA is the best for research and cheaper than UCSF and USC will mould one to a very good professional.UCSF is also a very good school but one can`t say its the best.
UOP is very professional school and regular students get to do all kinds of cases as there is no recidency in most of the departments and the best to start up own practice as soon as u are out.
friends.
international said:Hi,
As i mentioned in my previous posting that i didnt understand what u mean and u posted the same thing again. "And some of candidates in the interview told me that that will not be good for the further education". I wasnt to know what is THAT in that sentense u r addressing.
Hi Dr pulp,drpulp said:Hi international,
I am sure u r a student of UCSF and its obvious that u will love ur school .
But I think alL the california schools are equally good and UCLA is the best for research and cheaper than UCSF and USC will mould one to a very good professional.UCSF is also a very good school but one can`t say its the best.
UOP is very professional school and regular students get to do all kinds of cases as there is no recidency in most of the departments and the best to start up own practice as soon as u are out.
friends.
I think so too.dentaldoc said:I think USC is cheaper than UCLA
i thought overall ucsf is cheaper than ucladrpulp said:Hi international,
I am sure u r a student of UCSF and its obvious that u will love ur school .
But I think alL the california schools are equally good and UCLA is the best for research and cheaper than UCSF and USC will mould one to a very good professional.UCSF is also a very good school but one can`t say its the best.
UOP is very professional school and regular students get to do all kinds of cases as there is no recidency in most of the departments and the best to start up own practice as soon as u are out.
friends.
Ann 03 said:ur friends might be right also who knows. till we join cant say anything.
do ur friends have ucsf housing?
just curious. is the school housing more than off campus liviing?
dentoclan said:I would advise every one not to believe any of the self proclamations here and do proper research yourself to find which one suits you the best. The best way to do that is to find a way to talk to reliable contacts at these schools. See how happy they are where they are. Find out what the problems they face are. And the Pros and Cons analysis on which one best fits your requirements. There is nothing like best school for DDS. Thats all crap. For Eg., a school like UCLA or UCSF might not relatively be a best fit for some one who wants to be the best clinician as the emphasis there is more research and theory and less patient and clinical exposure. But they would be best if some one wants to pursue a career in teaching or reserach. On the other hand UOP and USC are known to prepare the best clinicians for practice but may not be best fit for some one who wants to do research.,etc.
So do your math and decide on whats best for you. For eg., some one I know settled for a school based on the place. Her sole criterion was to stay closer to her husband's work place in San Jose despite her heart was to go for a clinical school. And she is OK with the decision. Also look for statistics like how many people from the waitlist were confirmed last few years. If that number is too high find out why so many people are dropping. Answers to all these questions as well as how confortable you felt when you were at these schools for interviews might help in picking up the best choice that fits your bill. Good Luck.
international said:Hi,
i dont think we have such a vast information of judging them as what we see is Just the tip of the Iceberg. There are so many things to be considered which we r not even aware of.
dentoclan said:Dr.Pulp,
May be that's probably why there is so much competition to get into UOP/USC and have more people withdrawing from UCLA/UCSF admissions as many seem to have Clinicals and Patient exposure as high on their priorities. But surely it is individual decision and needs to live with it for life time. Some of the criteria that is common are the following and not in this order as the priorities order change with each individual
1) Patient Pool
2) Clinical and Practical exposure
3) Geographical proximity (like a school near by)
4) Strong Alumni Network (Like if lots of people from that school is practicing it will be easy to get recruited as well as help going forward)
5) Total Money spent on two years
6) Reserach and PG opportunities
7) Confidence to go into practice (without going into AEGD programs) coming out of school
8) School neighborhood and weather conditions
9) Age of the programs as old programs may be more structured and refined
10) Most importantly how happy the current students are about their program and any specific complaints they may have
11) Ability to reach faculty when needed and their readiness to help
Good Luck
Hi starwars,starwars said:hey guys,
dose anyone know if we have to show complete 2 yrs of tuition along with living expenses to obtain an I-20 in UCSF?
or we just have to show one year expenses?
from last year's threads it seems that in BU,upenn u have to show 1 yrs expenses...
I wanted to know about UCSF....
also how much time does it take for them to give us an I-20 after we are done with the required paper work etc?
any info will be helpful...
Thanks...
Hi Dentoclan,dentoclan said:I would advise every one not to believe any of the self proclamations here and do proper research yourself to find which one suits you the best. The best way to do that is to find a way to talk to reliable contacts at these schools. See how happy they are where they are. Find out what the problems they face are. And the Pros and Cons analysis on which one best fits your requirements. There is nothing like best school for DDS. Thats all crap. For Eg., a school like UCLA or UCSF might not relatively be a best fit for some one who wants to be the best clinician as the emphasis there is more research and theory and less patient and clinical exposure. But they would be best if some one wants to pursue a career in teaching or reserach. On the other hand UOP and USC are known to prepare the best clinicians for practice but may not be best fit for some one who wants to do research.,etc.
So do your math and decide on whats best for you. For eg., some one I know settled for a school based on the place. Her sole criterion was to stay closer to her husband's work place in San Jose despite her heart was to go for a clinical school. And she is OK with the decision. Also look for statistics like how many people from the waitlist were confirmed last few years. If that number is too high find out why so many people are dropping. Answers to all these questions as well as how confortable you felt when you were at these schools for interviews might help in picking up the best choice that fits your bill. Good Luck.
drpulp said:Well said international.
Hi,Ann 03 said:wht do u mean by the living expenses projected is not enough , i thought 20,ooo per yr was enough .infact uop shows living expenses to be less than ucsf and it is located in a more expensive area(i think)
some1 studying in ucsf pls confirm this. i hope u r wrong krishna
thanks international thts definitely a relief. i am not keeping a high budget for living.international said:Hi,
I think living near UCSF might cost u a max of $1000 per month at the max. But how much u need really depends, how u wanna live, and whether u want to cook or u want to have food daily outside and so many factors. But my quote of $1000 is too much, but i am giving the max, if u wanna stay shared with some one or live in a studio. I THINK my friends spend less than what i am saying those who stay near UCSF school.