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njac said:
And there is a lot of truth here. I know people I really like as individuals but can't stand as coworkers.
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Or really good pharmacists, I can't stand as people haha.
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Its Z said:
Really.......y'all are going to turn my thread into retail vs. Hospital?
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I was thinking grudge match before I read your post.:laugh:
Clinical with the first shot across the bow, but retail comes back quick with a basement dweller jab!!!!
 
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Glycerin said:
One of my old co-residents who went on to do a PGY2 in heme/onc is looking for a job. If you need more heme/onc pharmacists, lemme know.
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CA Licensed and ready to move????
 
confettiflyer said:
I think this is in California, residency for staffing is par for the course going forward (unless you have the requisite experience)
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It's not exclusive to California (not implying that is what you were saying...just adding on for clarity). In WA this is the mainstay of most hospitals as well. At my health system, MOST pharmacists have a residency, and if they don't, they're mostly older pharmacists. We all have our areas in which we mainly work (mine are ED and pediatrics), but we're also trained in at least one other area so we can rotate and not lose other skills. Everyone single one of us, though, "staffs" daily on top of doing clinical work; we're responsible for verifying our own orders for our area and making sure delivery of meds occurs as well as attending rounds (if applicable) and doing consults.
 
Glycerin said:
Ready to move, yes. Probably does not have a CA license, though he has looked at jobs there, so maybe he went ahead and got one. I'll find out for you.
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If he's licensed and ready, I can get him on very fast.
 
MountainPharmD said:
I had her personnal e-mail address and lost it. She was a very good contributor and I miss her as well. Lesson learned. Do not get in a pissing contest with one of the founders of SDN.
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Is that what happened? I seem to take occasional breaks from SDN. I just know one day she wasn't posting. I miss her too.

Sounds like a good job, Z. I like northern CA. But I love my job and life in the frozen tundra. Hope you get a one from your applicant pool.
 
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Its Z said:
Do I know you??? :smuggrin:

Oh...might as well include spaciecow too then..
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I didn't finish the thread, baby unicorn is inhibiting my smart phone surfing.

But yeah, hey what about us? Have I really been here 8 years? Whoa
 
Yeah great location. I am actually from the Bay Area but decided to stay on the east coast because of opportunities here. I'd like to eventually go back to CA and it sounds like there are openings there.
 
Its Z said:
There are whiny losers who think I should hand out chances.....then there are kids like you, karm12 and njac who went out and earned your chances. I would take you guys in a hearbeat..Heck...I knew you when you were a pre-pharm.
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Thank you. I did work very hard to get into the position I am in now. No one gave me a chance, I went out and got experience, learned as much as I could. I took a clinical hybrid position after my PGY2 and was promoted to a true specialist position within a year. They created the specialist FTE just for me becuase I proved to be valuable to the institution. I never felt that I was too good for staffing or it was below me because of my training. I got involved in projects and resident/student training as quick as I could. It is all about making the most of an opportunity, not just expecting something to be handed to you. You've got to be willing to work your way up from the bottom.
 
karm12 said:
thank you. I did work very hard to get into the position i am in now. No one gave me a chance, i went out and got experience, learned as much as i could. I took a clinical hybrid position after my pgy2 and was promoted to a true specialist position within a year. They created the specialist fte just for me becuase i proved to be valuable to the institution. I never felt that i was too good for staffing or it was below me because of my training. I got involved in projects and resident/student training as quick as i could. It is all about making the most of an opportunity, not just expecting something to be handed to you. You've got to be willing to work your way up from the bottom.
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qft.
 
KARM12 said:
Thank you. I did work very hard to get into the position I am in now. No one gave me a chance, I went out and got experience, learned as much as I could. I took a clinical hybrid position after my PGY2 and was promoted to a true specialist position within a year. They created the specialist FTE just for me becuase I proved to be valuable to the institution. I never felt that I was too good for staffing or it was below me because of my training. I got involved in projects and resident/student training as quick as I could. It is all about making the most of an opportunity, not just expecting something to be handed to you. You've got to be willing to work your way up from the bottom.
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You and njac inspire me :) true story.

Spacecowgirl too!
 
KARM12 said:
Thank you. I did work very hard to get into the position I am in now. No one gave me a chance, I went out and got experience, learned as much as I could. I took a clinical hybrid position after my PGY2 and was promoted to a true specialist position within a year. They created the specialist FTE just for me becuase I proved to be valuable to the institution. I never felt that I was too good for staffing or it was below me because of my training. I got involved in projects and resident/student training as quick as I could. It is all about making the most of an opportunity, not just expecting something to be handed to you. You've got to be willing to work your way up from the bottom.
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Solid clinical skills mixed with flexibility, and patiently kissing the right asses up one side and down the other will yield similar results as well

You make a really good point about not thinking that staffing is below you (or at least projecting that in public!) -- no one likes the clinical prima donna...
 
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I have 5 years of hospital experience and am willing to relocate.
 
I'm graduating in April in 2013. I wasn't planning on pursuing opportunities in Cali, but this one is appealing.
 
R xxx said:
Can't get experience if nobody gives you a chance.
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Dude, I think you should know by now that life is NOT fair. LOL... Yes, some are lucky and get chances and some are not so lucky. It's called life.

If life was fair I would get the chance to win that 640 Million dollar lottery on Friday. Life ain't fair. Suck it up and move on.
 
njac said:
don't be so sure...
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A pharmacist where I work just got fired. I walk in to work tonight expecting to see 3 pharmacists. There's only 1 pharmacist and a new pharmacist being trained. I look at the bulletin board and there's a sign in big letters saying, "All calls from Jane Doe, must be transferred to the VP of Human Resources." I look puzzled at the other tech and she just gives me a look like "yup, its exactly what you're thinking".
 
Sparda29 said:
A pharmacist where I work just got fired. I walk in to work tonight expecting to see 3 pharmacists. There's only 1 pharmacist and a new pharmacist being trained. I look at the bulletin board and there's a sign in big letters saying, "All calls from Jane Doe, must be transferred to the VP of Human Resources." I look puzzled at the other tech and she just gives me a look like "yup, its exactly what you're thinking".
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Were you expecting this, or did it surprise you?
 
I am going to coin a theorum.
"Quality work and output is inversely proportional to the hotness of the co-worker"

Lets face it, too pretty and that person becomes a distraction (unless you are a eunuch):laugh:
 
pharm B said:
If the attitude matches the looks (high maintenance, high priority on appearance rather than the task at hand), I'd ditch them in a heart beat. :oops:
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You could also argue that high priority on appearance and looks means a high attention to detail and thoroughness. It's hard to make a reliable connection, although there is the stereotype of the unkempt genius.

Good looking people are probably healthier in general too. I'm assuming someone we'd define as "good looking" would be someone with a BMI below 26, probably exercises regularly, most likely wouldn't smoke (ruins your skin and hair). Those are all pretty good attributes for an employee, since I don't want them dropping dead after I've hired them, since then I have to find a new applicant all over again. Or even a hospitalization, since you need to find coverage. Smokers take those smoke breaks and cut down on productivity too.

Overall, I'd second the "all things being equal" picking the better looking person. Lots of assumptions going into this, but we'll just rely on those two candidates being equal.
 
Sparda29

what did the pharmacist do wrong to get fired?? imcompetent? lazyness?? too many mistakes?? not getting along with other members??? ( or too sexy??..hehehe...j/k )
 
inpatientRPH said:
Sparda29

what did the pharmacist do wrong to get fired?? imcompetent? lazyness?? too many mistakes?? not getting along with other members??? ( or too sexy??..hehehe...j/k )
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The one person I know of to get fired in the last year did so for attendance issues. They weren't them best team member, either.
 
joetrisman said:
Solely, no. Between two equally qualified candidates, yes :smuggrin:
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Truth is there's no such a thing as every thing being equal. No candidates are ever equal. In the end the better candidate will be chosen by me. Be it attitude, communication skills, or experience. Never the looks. Sure....I joke around a alot but never compromise professional integrity. Yeah ...you can believe the cliche' better looking people get the job etc. But we are not in a business selling sex. We are there to save lives. Get your mind outta gutter if you're in a hiring position to only look at the candidates objectively not as a sexual object.

Just sayin.
 
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