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This thread is for those of us who have been accepted at NYMC or who are currently med students there. I don't know where I'll end up next year, but I really liked NYMC when I interviewed there!
I got an acceptance notice on 11/26 too, but haven't received the letter in the mail yet. Kinda nervous...
I got an acceptance notice on 11/26 too, but haven't received the letter in the mail yet. Kinda nervous...
NYMC was just purchased by Touro University. There is a good chance that the entering class of 2013 will not be called NYMC but something along the lines of NYMC at Touro University, or Touro University School of Medicine, etc.
I recommend using this knowledge when deciding whether or not you'd like to attend the school.
Can anyone confirm this?
Did you google it?
http://lohud.com/article/2009903070370
Sounds like a pretty positive development to me...
What I find interesting is that Touro is a Jewish University while NYMC is a Catholic med school. I wonder how that'll work.
Hey, I'm a fourth year at NYMC, and a member of the student senate. We actually have a class meeting tomorrow to discuss the details of it but I will tell you what I know.
NYMC, is one of the few medical schools who operates without an associated undergraduate university. As a result of the expenses it costs to run a medical school coupled with the current economy, NYMC had been looking to merge with another university. A few of the possibilities that were entertained were Notre Dame, St Johns, Fordham...but for one reason or another they all fell through. However, Touro, which is a blanket name for many different universities including a law school, 2 Do schools I believe and some others offered to purchase us. According to their mission statement, they have always had a goal of building an allopathic medical school. They had invested 200 million into one at NJ, however, they discovered it would be cheaper to merge with us then finish there school. Currently We are working out 'due dilligence' process with them, and although the agreement is NOT final, it looks like it will occur.
The feedback from the students has been mixed, as they did not sign up to go to Touro. However, Touro is a huge financial industry, with lots of money that will give the school financial stability.
Some good things from the potential merger (from what I've heard thru senate):
1.) Financial stability (apparently the day we sign with them our school gets 28 million more of funds instantly)
2.) Access to Hackensack Medical Center - supposedly an amazing hospital, which is used by both RWJ and UMDNJ - Newark, but will be ours if we merge
3.) Multiple housing/libraries in the city
Some Bad things (which I've heard as well):
1.) Touro is not the strongest of names, and has had some bad press in the past
2.) No one knows how this will effect the reputation of the school, although it is thought nothing will change as our faculty and everything will be the same, only adding new sites to do clinicals at (this will give us hospitals in NY (NYC, Westchester, bronx), NJ (Hackensack), Connecticut (Grenich, Danbury, Bridgeport))
Although these are some of the facts, I am sure there is a lot of information I am not privy to. However, only time will tell what will happen. If you guys have any questions feel free to post and I will do my best to respond
Best of luck with the process
Hey, I'm a fourth year at NYMC, and a member of the student senate. We actually have a class meeting tomorrow to discuss the details of it but I will tell you what I know.
NYMC, is one of the few medical schools who operates without an associated undergraduate university. As a result of the expenses it costs to run a medical school coupled with the current economy, NYMC had been looking to merge with another university. A few of the possibilities that were entertained were Notre Dame, St Johns, Fordham...but for one reason or another they all fell through. However, Touro, which is a blanket name for many different universities including a law school, 2 Do schools I believe and some others offered to purchase us. According to their mission statement, they have always had a goal of building an allopathic medical school. They had invested 200 million into one at NJ, however, they discovered it would be cheaper to merge with us then finish there school. Currently We are working out 'due dilligence' process with them, and although the agreement is NOT final, it looks like it will occur.
The feedback from the students has been mixed, as they did not sign up to go to Touro. However, Touro is a huge financial industry, with lots of money that will give the school financial stability.
Some good things from the potential merger (from what I've heard thru senate):
1.) Financial stability (apparently the day we sign with them our school gets 28 million more of funds instantly)
2.) Access to Hackensack Medical Center - supposedly an amazing hospital, which is used by both RWJ and UMDNJ - Newark, but will be ours if we merge
3.) Multiple housing/libraries in the city
Some Bad things (which I've heard as well):
1.) Touro is not the strongest of names, and has had some bad press in the past
2.) No one knows how this will effect the reputation of the school, although it is thought nothing will change as our faculty and everything will be the same, only adding new sites to do clinicals at (this will give us hospitals in NY (NYC, Westchester, bronx), NJ (Hackensack), Connecticut (Grenich, Danbury, Bridgeport))
Although these are some of the facts, I am sure there is a lot of information I am not privy to. However, only time will tell what will happen. If you guys have any questions feel free to post and I will do my best to respond
Best of luck with the process
However, I think what is comforting about this deal is that we seem only to be adding to the school in that we are getting hospitals, money, and housing and libraries in Manhattan.
As for complaints about hospitals being spread out all over the place. Sure, that sucks, but my feeling is we all deal with it. I don't know for sure, but I bet there are other schools that have a similar set-up. As far as the administration, I haven't had a lot of contact with them, but so far they've been nice to me.
As a student at one of Touro's apparent "lesser quality D.O schools" I found this pretty interesting. I'm not too sure as to how this will turn out but I will tell you that besides following a few Jewish customs we operate pretty damn autonomously of New York. I highly doubt this will be the death sentence you offer in your post, it seems more like a funding issue. Furthermore the Touro name hasn't locked our grads out of Johns Hopkins or the Cleveland Clinic. But I can understand your consternation coming from an MD school thats been around for a long time. Don't worry I highly doubt you all will be forced to become primary care country doctors. That being said the Touro admin isn't one of the better ones , but perhaps it is the same sort of problem most medical schools seem to have.
I'm sorry I think I misquoted you as saying something along the lines of being associated with an inferior institution, I believe that was another of your classmates. And believe me I don't feel as if I am a victimized osteopath , I know what i'm personally capable of academically, and am realistic to the challenges that face DOs. All I am saying is that I do not believe it will be the death sentence you state. This does not really affect me in the least bit as our school is in Nevada and we don't even know anything about the D.O program in NY. Also take into account they are pissed off , but they are also the FIRST class at that school, of course everything will be haphazard. Yes there was an incident with grades and money, does it affect my medical degree or program? NO. As I said before we have had one graduating class, most of whom matched at allopathic university programs. I think that NYMC will probably still retain its reputation and curriculum. And by the way each Touro school seems to be responsible for securing its own spots. I am not allowed to use Touro-CA or Touro-NY sites for my rotations. From all of my friends who are at allopathic institutions from UCLA to even NYMC I can tell those who are a bit insecure to those who are confident. The ones who are insecure are the ones who have talked down on 'lesser' medical schools or even when we were in college, lesser colleges. The ones who are confident in their own abilities don't tend to stereotype. I don't know too much about NYMC and neither do you about Touro , other than what you have seen in the news. We certainly are not allowed to 'buy' our grades.
this thread has been Hijacked!
I just want to get back to the point of this thread, which is for new/prospective NYMC students:
So we are retaining the name? I feel better then. As terrible as it sounds, that's important to me. I don't want our school to have a name that can be misconstrued for Touro's less competitive DO schools (although I interviewed at Touro-CA and it was pretty decent).
NYMC is a strong name with a longstanding reputation and I don't want to lose that.
BTW, if you're a DO student, don't bother responding to the above jab because they'll defend themselves by shifting the focus to your "DO inferiority complex" flaring up, or worse yet, accuse you of <gasp!> turning this into a DO vs MD flame thread.
Seriously. Damn those less-competitive degree-tarnishing DO's that chair and chaired departments at Mayo (Anesthiosology), Harvard Med (PM & R), or the ones that serve as trauma surgery attendings at Columbia, and heck, even those sneaky little ones that snag Yale residencies. Damn them all for tarnishing my NYMC degree!
"As terrible as it sounds, that's important to me."
I'll bet.
Way to feed the stereotype that arrogance will be a bread-and-butter component of your allo bedside manners.
No wonder the nurses always love you guys.
And no, you weren't just referring to Touro's reputation in your post. Do your homework and see how your reputation will be impacted by the time 2020 rolls around and <gasp!> those less competitive DO docs start representing exponentially.
Love,
The Degree Mill Kids
Have any accepted students gotten their financial aid package, dual program (MD/MPH) information, etc. yet from NYMC? Also, to current students, how difficult is it to get accepted into the MPH program as an MD student. I'm afraid they may make admissions more difficult because they don't expect everyone can handle both the MD and MPH classes.
I'm hoping to do it in 4 years and start the classes this summer. Do you feel it is manageable to take 4-5 classes in the summers and take 1-2 during each semester? Also, is there a lot of out of class time (i.e. homework, papers, etc.) attached to the MPH classes?