Physical Therapist more helpful than MD

[kalix]

So, my mom recently went in for an examination with an MD specialist, as she has been having some pain associated with her back and left leg. It seems something slides out of place, who knows what(surely the MD doesnt).

To my point, she has had several appointments with the MD. He basically is an egghead, zero personality type guy, that really has been unable to provide many explanations for why this shooting, sporadic pain may be occurring. His only response was, " Not sure, stems from the back." Alrighty then, well said Doc. She was prescribed some steroids, directed to engage in some physical therapy sessions, and sent on her way... shooting pains and all.

So she attends her first physical therapy session. Brad, the physical therapist, whom my mom said is a fantastic, personable, caring, knowledgeable professional, directed her to lay on her back. He immediately noticed some misalignment, performed some manipulations, and subsequently my mom has been devoid of pain since this rehab session. She ranted and raved about how the physical therapist was a miracle worker, and is now a loyal supporter of manipulation techniques.

She later went in for a checkup with the MD, and to say the least let him have it! He stubbornly refused to acknowledge the possibility that the manipulation served as a solution to her previous pain. He also refused to give any reasons for why the manipulation worked such wonders for her ailment. He walked out of the room, with not much to say, as usual.

My mom told me of this, as I'm pursuing a career in healthcare, just not sure to what capacity yet. However, I have to say this manipulation utilized by the physical therapist seems very similar to something a D.O might implement in the healing process.

As of now, I have to say, I'm garnering my support for the DO's and other skilled physical therapists out there who are relieving others out there like my mom via manipulation techniques. I'm disappointed with the MD, and as a result of hearing of this experience, I'm in full support of the notion that the DO just may in fact have much more to offer than the typical MD.

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[Pinkertinkle]

Excellent, head over to preosteo.

 

[kalix]

So, my mom recently went in for an examination with an MD specialist, as she has been having some pain associated with her back and left leg. It seems something slides out of place, who knows what(surely the MD doesnt).

To my point, she has had several appointments with the MD. He basically is an egghead, zero personality type guy, that really has been unable to provide many explanations for why this shooting, sporadic pain may be occurring. His only response was, " Not sure, stems from the back." Alrighty then, well said Doc. She was prescribed some steroids, directed to engage in some physical therapy sessions, and sent on her way... shooting pains and all.

So she attends her first physical therapy session. Brad, the physical therapist, whom my mom said is a fantastic, personable, caring, knowledgeable professional, directed her to lay on her back. He immediately noticed some misalignment, performed some manipulations, and subsequently my mom has been devoid of pain since this rehab session. She ranted and raved about how the physical therapist was a miracle worker, and is now a loyal supporter of manipulation techniques.

She later went in for a checkup with the MD, and to say the least let him have it! He stubbornly refused to acknowledge the possibility that the manipulation served as a solution to her previous pain. He also refused to give any reasons for why the manipulation worked such wonders for her ailment. He walked out of the room, with not much to say, as usual.

My mom told me of this, as I'm pursuing a career in healthcare, just not sure to what capacity yet. However, I have to say this manipulation utilized by the physical therapist seems very similar to something a D.O might implement in the healing process.

As of now, I have to say, I'm garnering my support for the DO's and other skilled physical therapists out there who are relieving others out there like my mom via manipulation techniques. I'm disappointed with the MD, and as a result of hearing of this experience, I'm in full support of the notion that the DO just may in fact have much more to offer than the typical MD.

I forgot, this testimonial might appear rather trollesque unless I add something like....
So for all you future MD's, keep an open mind, get off your imaginary high horse, and recognize that there are alternatives that actually do, yes, work!! A simple prescription isn't always the answer.... so remember, open mind, because the objective is the same, healing!!

 

[synapse lapse]

Well I am glad that you are the sort of person who assumes that based on the anecdotal experience of your mother that a DO is more qualified than an MD to handle medical issues. While I am glad that your mother feels better, the fact that you have run into one particular poor physician speaks nothing about the degree. In addition to this fact, the guy was a physical therapist, not a DO, thus there is not even a correlation. The fact is that one dumb a$$ doctor is certainly not indicative of the field at large.

 

[Medikit]

MDs learn fake medicine anyways

 

[dopaminophile]

PT was not better or more helpful in my opinion, just different. Perhaps your mom's orthopod just isn't right for her. It would be foolish for her to drop doctor's supervision because she didn't like the one. We already had a thread on bad doctors this evening.

 

[beanbean]

Well, her doctor did something right..... according to you he SENT her to the physical therapist!

I vote for closing this thread. It is pointless and will only serve to start a flame war.

 

[virilep]

yeah, my aunt has cervical ridiculopathy and the neurologist said to get PT. it helped her out. but depending on what type of MD the guy was, he should have refered to whatever specialty should have been seen. depending on where the pain was stemming from and where it went, it usually goes goes to the neurologist and they refer to the PT. PTs are great, so are DOs. but then again, so are MDs. (the reason why this statement means nothing is because, well, frankly, your statement means nothing ;-) ) so if it worked for her, kudos! every field has her specialty, but she still went to the MD first to figure out the path, all of us in the healthcare field are just a step to better healthcare, MD, DO, DC, Pharm, etc. enough ranting. lata.

 

[Fantasy Sports]

As of now, I have to say, I'm garnering my support for the DO's and other skilled physical therapists out there who are relieving others out there like my mom via manipulation techniques. I'm disappointed with the MD, and as a result of hearing of this experience, I'm in full support of the notion that the DO just may in fact have much more to offer than the typical MD.

Yes DOs know so much more than MDs that only 65-70% of DOs who OPT to take Step I (a more motivated subset) pass, while ALL MDs who have to take Step I average around a 90% pass rate.

http://www.usmle.org/scores/2003perf.htm

Sorry troll, but if you are going to post that weakarse pro-DO crap on a pre-allo messageboard, you're just asking to be cut down to size.

 

[DrMom]

*sigh*

lets not turn this into a DO vs MD thing

The OP was just noting that a DO could offer an alternative that an MD couldn't (without referring the pt).

There is nothing in the OP's posting hx that is suggestive of trolling

 

[Fantasy Sports]

*sigh*

lets not turn this into a DO vs MD thing

The OP was just noting that a DO could offer an alternative that an MD couldn't (without referring the pt).

There is nothing in the OP's posting hx that is suggestive of trolling

Actually, if you read some of the PMs he sends out, you would realize he is a complete troll. Time will prove this to be true, but I can't blame you for not realizing this yet...

In any case, if I were to go into the osteopathic forums and START a thread saying that I had a crappy DO doctor that completely missed my diagnosis (assigned by my school, so I didnt have a choice on who to see) and that only after seeing an MD did I get the correct diagnosis. And that I think MDs are better blah blah blah, how do you think the osteopaths would react? And could you blame them (I couldn't). And that is why I havent started such a thread...

Of course, if I did start such a thread, I could easily rationalize it as showing how MDs have "more complete training" or are more often specialists, but that wouldn't help anyone and is just starting a pissing match, just like the OP did.

Im just asking you to see this from the other side Dr. Mom.

 

[ShyRem]

I'm sure we have all seen MDs who were worthless (I know I have), and DOs who were worthless (again, I have). And there are good teachers and bad teachers. And good drivers and bad drivers. Excellent professors and pitiful ones. Good grocery baggers and bad grocery baggers.

One bad experience does not mean you should bag the entire MD profession - however it should give you an idea of the kind of doctor *you* want to become some day.

 

[stinkycheese]

So for all you future MD's, keep an open mind, get off your imaginary high horse, and recognize that there are alternatives that actually do, yes, work!!

You wanna talk about high horses, how about you stop presupposing that all MD's are brainless ****s who don't know their heads from their asses just because your mother had one bad experience with one bad MD?

A simple prescription isn't always the answer.... so remember, open mind, because the objective is the same, healing!!

Thanks so much for telling us that drugs aren't always the answer. Eureka. You have saved the medical profession.

 

[dopaminophile]

You wanna talk about high horses, how about you stop presupposing that all MD's are brainless ****s who don't know their heads from their asses just because your mother had one bad experience with one bad MD?



Thanks so much for telling us that drugs aren't always the answer. Eureka. You have saved the medical profession.

my my... you're agressive this evening. Anything on your mind?

 

[CharlieVN]

I would be interested to know what would happen if we did post over there...hmmmm....and now i wander to the other side...

 

[cfdavid]

Up until very recently, I've really enjoyed SDN. Now, I'm not as sure. At first I was impressed by the quality of posters on this forum. But, more and more, I'm seeing some people that are way too hostile. Almost like a 'go get some help' sort of inner anger.

The OP made a point of an experience he/she had. No big deal. Just relax. Everything's going to be alright.

 

[dopaminophile]

Up until very recently, I've really enjoyed SDN. Now, I'm not as sure. At first I was impressed by the quality of posters on this forum. But, more and more, I'm seeing some people that are way too hostile. Almost like a 'go get some help' sort of inner anger.

The OP made a point of an experience he/she had. No big deal. Just relax. Everything's going to be alright.

The same old mindless webforum flaming is merely masked by a slightly more articulate clientele and efficient moderators. Worry not, we will rarely be quality posters.

 

[stinkycheese]

my my... you're agressive this evening. Anything on your mind?

Just because I asked you to talk about why you dont like Tulane in a thread other than the 09 one doesn't mean you have to get personal, dude. Hostility is difficult to assess over the internet, but no, I'm not hostile -- I tell it like it is. I don't mince words. I say what I want to say. And I am perfectly calm about it. Now, if you're pissed off that I asked you -- kindly and calmly -- to talk about your problems with Tulane in another thread -- I am sorry, but don't follow me around and start picking fights with me just because of that.

 

[Pinkertinkle]

In any case, if I were to go into the osteopathic forums and START a thread saying that I had a crappy DO doctor that completely missed my diagnosis (assigned by my school, so I didnt have a choice on who to see) and that only after seeing an MD did I get the correct diagnosis. And that I think MDs are better blah blah blah, how do you think the osteopaths would react? And could you blame them (I couldn't). And that is why I havent started such a thread...

You should do it, DO IT DO IT DO IT!!!

 

[dopaminophile]

Just because I asked you to talk about why you dont like Tulane in a thread other than the 09 one doesn't mean you have to get personal, dude. Hostility is difficult to assess over the internet, but no, I'm not hostile -- I tell it like it is. I don't mince words. I say what I want to say. And I am perfectly calm about it. Now, if you're pissed off that I asked you -- kindly and calmly -- to talk about your problems with Tulane in another thread -- I am sorry, but don't follow me around and start picking fights with me just because of that.

Geeze... I was being genuine. I said I didn't want to bash Tulane in the acceptees thread and apologized when that post clearly made you unhappy. I've only tried to be informative to those who wanted to know things that I consider useful in a pertinant thread where the topic came up.

In this thread I've only tried to be friendly. You seemed to jump on people agressively unnecessarily. If I misread that post that I quoted earlier, then again... I'm sorry. I'm not trying to follow you around and I'm certainly not trying to pick fights with you. I'm just trying to add my piece of the puzzle.

peace.

-dope-

 

[CharlieVN]

I didn't wanna say anything, but I got bored and remembered something...

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=174593

 

[dopaminophile]

I didn't wanna say anything, but I got bored and remembered something...

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=174593

haha... excellent...

 

[45408]

DO != physical therapist

what makes you so sure that the DO would've fixed the problem?

 

[coolness]

There are good DOs and bad DOs, just like there are good MDs and bad MDs. One personal experience cannot be used solely as a parameter basing the effectiveness of osteopathic medicine vs. allopathic medicine.

 

[kalix]

DO != physical therapist

what makes you so sure that the DO would've fixed the problem?

Not certain, however, a DO would have been apt to perform manipulations in my opinion in an attempt to solve the problem. The MD was not willing to perform any manipulations, or even acknowledge the possibility that such procedures could be beneficial.

My opinion, once again, is simply based on some research I have done on osteopathic medicine.

 

[CharlieVN]

UH OH, my allopathic friends...They're calling me a troll and prick over there...

Attn MODs, if you don't think that coming to a Pre-allo thread and speaking lowly of MDs as a profession due to one isolated experience with a bad MD won't cause a bad beef. Think again...

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=174593

 

[davidr]

I'd say troll fits both this and your post in DO.

http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/0,,sid9_gci213222,00.html

 

[DrMom]

closing. enough with the anti-other-medical-professionals threads