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How late do we think programs will be open tonight to email or call?
I think it depends. On the first night of soap, I got a call at 10:30 pm EDT. Good luck to you!
How late do we think programs will be open tonight to email or call?
I don't know the answer for that question as well.Does anyone know what time we can begin contacting programs? Is it right at 5 pm when the final soap round ends, or does it start at 6 pm EDT? Thank you
Does anyone know what time we can begin contacting programs? Is it right at 5 pm when the final soap round ends, or does it start at 6 pm EDT? Thank you
Awesome-thank you!SOAP ends at 5pm, so it's not a violation to call immediately. NRMP said they would send out the final updated list of open positions at 6pm, so efforts at 5pm might be wasted, but you don't have a lot to lose. All times are ET, so Central and West time zones will still be in their regular business hours.
My understanding (although, please correct me if I'm wrong) is that any program with an unfilled spot is up for grabs, regardless of previous application status. Best of luck to you!For the scramble, do we reapply to positions we already applied to that may be open?
For the scramble, do we reapply to positions we already applied to that may be open?
I think I've clicked the refresh button on avg. 15x/millisec.Looks like it hasnt updated yet
Has anyone seen the list being generated with non-soap unfilled programs?
How to apply to unfilled programs? Through ERAS or contacting the programs directly?
If applying directly to program how to get my LORs if I waived my right to see them?
Contact your registrar's/academic office, and they'll email your MSPE and rec letters.
I tried with the ECFMG last year, I couldnt get them to send my LoRs to the programs. It's a no-go for themAnd IMG's?
Apply through ERAS and yes it cost $26/program!For the scramble, do we email the programs our application directly or do we apply through ERAS? and does it cost to apply ? Thanks
Same thing. I still called, left voicemails where I could, and sent emails. I also provided my deans office with the emails/phone numbers of programs with open positions. You can do this!!Just tried calling a program in NY and the operator picked up and said call back tomorrow at 8 am...doubt anyone on the east coast will pick up today
Should be through ERAS!How to apply to unfilled programs? Through ERAS or contacting the programs directly?
If applying directly to program how to get my LORs if I waived my right to see them?
Contact your registrar's/academic office, and they'll email your MSPE and rec letters.
elementals said:Okay, source #2 is the sort of thinking that fuels Trump. Rant incoming.
Speaking as a US citizen US grad who didn't match ophtho the first time around -- i.e. someone who may have benefited most from a little match xenophobia -- I am thoroughly and ferociously opposed to the idea of limiting the match to US citizens only. I have no issues at all with non-citizen IMGs managing to claw their way in. It's insanely hard for them to get in, and the bar is set so much higher than it is for us. The ones that make it are without a doubt the cream of the crop; the intellectual and medical equal (or superior) of ANY American medical student.
While I have of course met the infamous bedside-manner-impaired IMG resident, the vast majority of them improve within a couple months. It's not that fking hard to act polite. And every single IMG I can think of has been a wonderful, driven, incredibly hardworking person who honestly deserves every little shred of success they've been able to eke out in a system that's strongly stacked against them. Compared to that, I don't see any reason why our precious little US citizen US grads -- some of which you have to admit are entitled arrogant little ****s who are worse than an IMG on their worst day -- should be so coddled if they just don't stack up. Competition drives progress.
The cherry on top is that source #2 invalidates his/her own argument: "I am by no means xenophobic but our medical education system is funded by the American tax payer with the express intent of educating physicians to treat the American patient population. I believe that qualified American physicians should be matched before placing outside trainees."
That's correct. Educating physicians to treat the American patient population. And guess what? That's exactly what IMGs do, and they do it damn well. If a PD feels they'll do it better than some poorly qualified AMG who ultimately doesn't match, then so be it.
If source #2 really wants to bemoan something, he/she can bitch about the fact that 1) for-profit DO schools that accept students with grades entirely too low for MD schools only to try to cram 60%+ of them back into the MD pipeline four years later, or even better, 2) for-profit Caribbean schools that are basically ripping off desperate and/or severely underqualified people and, as this thread clearly attests, ruining lives in the name of greed.
Okay, source #2 is the sort of thinking that fuels Trump. Rant incoming.
Speaking as a US citizen US grad who didn't match ophtho the first time around -- i.e. someone who may have benefited most from a little match xenophobia -- I am thoroughly and ferociously opposed to the idea of limiting the match to US citizens only. I have no issues at all with non-citizen IMGs managing to claw their way in. It's insanely hard for them to get in, and the bar is set so much higher than it is for us. The ones that make it are without a doubt the cream of the crop; the intellectual and medical equal (or superior) of ANY American medical student.
While I have of course met the infamous bedside-manner-impaired IMG resident, the vast majority of them improve within a couple months. It's not that fking hard to act polite. And every single IMG I can think of has been a wonderful, driven, incredibly hardworking person who honestly deserves every little shred of success they've been able to eke out in a system that's strongly stacked against them. Compared to that, I don't see any reason why our precious little US citizen US grads -- some of which you have to admit are entitled arrogant little ****s who are worse than an IMG on their worst day -- should be so coddled if they just don't stack up. Competition drives progress.
The cherry on top is that source #2 invalidates his/her own argument: "I am by no means xenophobic but our medical education system is funded by the American tax payer with the express intent of educating physicians to treat the American patient population. I believe that qualified American physicians should be matched before placing outside trainees."
That's correct. Educating physicians to treat the American patient population. And guess what? That's exactly what IMGs do, and they do it damn well. If a PD feels they'll do it better than some poorly qualified AMG who ultimately doesn't match, then so be it.
If source #2 really wants to bemoan something, he/she can bitch about the fact that 1) for-profit DO schools that accept students with grades entirely too low for MD schools only to try to cram 60%+ of them back into the MD pipeline four years later, or even better, 2) for-profit Caribbean schools that are basically ripping off desperate and/or severely underqualified people and, as this thread clearly attests, ruining lives in the name of greed.
Felt like delving into the numbers. Found a thread on Reddit. Contrast these two posts and you will find the truth, I think.
Something where you start PGY-2 in July wouldn't be in the match/soap....Or do the unfilled advance programs mean you start as a PGY2 this coming july?
@mcl is there anything one should "not" do during this time with respect to contacting the program coordinators? I know they are busy, how do we teach out to them in a manner indicative of our sense of urgency without coming across as demanding/impatient?
Pick a coordinator that seemed friendly, approachable, and sympathetic (if you are still a student, this would most likely be your home program). Call. This is the kind of favor best asked for person-to-person rather than in an email. Explain the situation, especially related to Letters of Recommendation (neither you nor your Dean's office have access, it's really time sensitive, trying to contact all your letter writers to have them send letters directly to programs with spots available isn't practical). IMG/FMG applicants can expand on the need for letters, transcript, and the MSPE. If the coordinator agrees, have your instructions available to send by email immediately.
The absolute best would be for the coordinator to send the documents to one of your mentors who would work with you to send the information to programs in whatever format they request. The coordinator is NOT going to want to be your proxy, sending your documents to lots of programs and then getting caught in a loop of relaying messages to you when programs hit the "reply" button to respond rather than searching the body of the email for the applicant's contact email.
Basically, it's the same strategy we used to employ for the Scramble.
Is there any way to know how many non-SOAP unfilled spots there were last year that may come up in the next 2 hours?
I am willing to take anything to go anywhere. ECFMG certified + Step3. Have not heard from programs yet. International IMG with US clinical experience.
I just woke up this morning with alot of anxiety and fear.
I hate fear.
I need to get off the phone and take a walk.
matched in an advanced program in main match, but no pgy1. Can anyone give some advises what should i do? any other ways to secure a pgy1 after the match? Thanks a lot.
Just in case There are any DOs still looking for a position
the AOA Post Match Page is not working. We have open positions and haven’t been able to update the page.
We have 8 slots for Traditional and 4 for family medicine. Please share with your students.
Thank you.
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Administrative Director, Graduate Medical Education
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205 N. East Avenue, Jackson, MI 49201
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Sorry I have no knowledge of open residency spots. Best of luck and keep trying!!Hi are there any MD slots still available for Internal Med or Family med? I am US Citizen IMG ECFMG CERT
matched in an advanced program in main match, but no pgy1. Can anyone give some advises what should i do? any other ways to secure a pgy1 after the match? Thanks a lot.
Thank you goone. it has been a stressful week. i hope it will work out for all of us who are struggling.hey the same thing happened to me this week. one of the most stressful weeks of my life. went through the soap still didn't get a prelim. Was worried all was lost and I would lose my Rads spot. I would contact your home institution to see if there are any prelim spots that can be created for you. contact the person in charge of GME and also like the post above you should contact the PD at your advanced spot to see if they can do anything to find you a place. good luck, i know its a crappy feeling to get your advanced spot only to be struggling to get a prelim. Keep your head up and stay positive but be your own advocate and talk to the right people who can help you.
Thanks MCL. My PD at advanced program has been every helpful, but still no luck.This is the point when you call the PD at your advanced program and solicit help finding a PGY1 spot.