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All my applications are in for this application cycle. Who else is applying to Endo?
No. It's more like 12 programs that expressly require post-grad experience or active duty military.wow so only 10 endo programs don't require post-grad experience?
I expect that to hear (if interview) from most programs within a month of their deadline. Since endo is non-match, they would love to interview all the best applicants early and try get acceptances prior to others from other schools. I talked to a couple of residents who only had 6 hours to accept or decline an acceptance. The problem comes if you are accepted early at a school that would be less than your first choice. Do you decline and hope for the best at your number 1 choice? That's not a situation I'm looking forward to.I appliied to 18. I wonder when they will start to offer interviews?
I'd like to make the Minnesota deadline, but I've got one letter of recommendation that still hasn't been sent out and I'm starting to think it won't make it to Moos Tower before the 1st. I wish there was a really tactful way to say...Please send the letter today or else it won't get there in time!From what I've heard talking to current endo residents, many of the programs invite all the interviewees on the same day, or within a couple days of eachother, so they can compare them directly and then offer acceptances within a couple of days. If that's the case, it would be hard to start interviewing a month before the deadline. That may not be correct all schools, but it seemed to be the experience of the residents I talked to for the schools they interviewed at. My first deadline app deadline is Aug 1st at Minnesota, so we'll wait and see what happens
I know they encourage early applications, but I haven't ever heard of interviews before the application deadline.I hear you on the acceptance deal, that could get dicey. I've heard of 24-48 hours, but never six! That's enough pressure to make Jack Bauer wince. When you say within a month of their deadline, do you mean a month before or after? I always thought programs started interviewing their strongest candidates before their deadline.
I wish there was a really tactful way to say...Please send the letter today or else it won't get there in time!
I just kept emailing and keeping that person "up to date" on what I was doing every few days. I guess they got sick of hearing from me, so the rec arrived a couple of weeks later.
Well done!
For you endo applicants, most of you are applying right from school, right? (I assume, since you're seeing which programs require experience and which don't.) What sorts of activities/committees/extra stuff did you do during school, and may I ask your general grades?
Also, do describe your reasons for pursuing endo. Aren't I annoying?
...but I'm only cautiously optimistic...
I'm applying straight out of school, but I'm only cautiously optimistic and planning on applying again next year if I don't get in. I volunteered for a committee and have done some mentoring within the endo department as well as various volunteer/community dentistry type things, but mostly I've just gotten to know the endo faculty and done as many canals as I could as a D-3 (45 canals and 2 apicoectomies). I was involved in some research, but no publications. I also did an externship at San Antonio's program this last spring. As far as general grades, I have a 3.8, 3/83 rank and pretty good Part I boards, but nothing outstanding. We'll see what happens.
There are some right out, I graduated 8 years ago. Did a GPR, worked as an associate for a few years, owned my own office for four more, and am under contract to sell it now. Grades were P/F at my school. I was always active in volunteer projects, student government, and I worked as a tutor in the med school. My motivation for endo in a nutshell is that it is the most interesting thing I do on a daily basis. I wish I could do more of it, and learn to think my way through the difficult cases. I could give it to you in the eloquent form of my personal statement, but who wants to read that. Deciding what you want to do in dentistry comes easy for some. It took me 6 years, a bunch of CE and experience, and the encouragement of my wife to apply to go back.
which school is that lets you guys do apicoectomies. In my school the residents fight among each other to graduate with even 3-4 apicos. May i ask where you go to school?
I also agree that "cautiously optimistic" fits the bill for endo apps directly from dental school.Well done!
For you endo applicants, most of you are applying right from school, right? (I assume, since you're seeing which programs require experience and which don't.) What sorts of activities/committees/extra stuff did you do during school, and may I ask your general grades?
Also, do describe your reasons for pursuing endo. Aren't I annoying?
It sounds like all of you had all your stuff in well before deadline, I hope there are some out there like me that are planning on just making the deadline for most of these schools!
I also did an externship at San Antonio's program this last spring.
I did an externship there in March as well. Wasn't that a great experience? Did you see that Taylor and Dave's poster presentation won first place at the AAE meeting and that Kitchen's research won 1st as well? I thought that was pretty sweet. Good program.
Quick question:
Is it completely unprofessional to tell a school that makes you sweat it out with a decision yes first and then if you do hear from your 1st choice back out of it. My feeling is they are really sticking it to you to force an early decision, it can't be that unjust to return the favor. Does this ever happen?
I spoke to one of the deans at my school about this. He was insistent that accepting a position and paying a deposit was contractual. When he spelled out the options available to a program to take action against someone who reneged on their contract, it wasn't pretty. That notwithstanding, I think it is bad form. I don't think they are sticking it to you. There are good programs that interview early, and programs seen as less desirable who do as well. You have to make a choice, and I think you need to stick with it. If they give you a time window and you've already interviewed somewhere else that you want more, than call the other school and let them know, to force their hand. But you know what they say about a bird in the hand.
...I only applied to schools that I am prepared to attend...
...I only applied to schools that I am prepared to attend...
Have any of you guys followed up with your application and found out that they are missing letters or other documents that you know were sent, or is it just me. Most of my applications were complete when I checked, but one program only received one out of three letters of rec that I mailed at the same time with my own hand--pretty strange. At least I found out before the deadline, right?
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As this number increases, we are almost guaranteed to share some interviews. I look forward to meeting some or all of you.
It seems funny that they would be having their interview date 2 weeks prior to their deadline (Oct 1). I better finish getting all of my apps in!As the interview process begins, we'll get a feel for where everyone has apps pending.
As an aside, I heard that Nebraska is interviewing on 9/14/07, although they have not offered interviews at this time.
It seems funny that they would be having their interview date 2 weeks prior to their deadline (Oct 1). I better finish getting all of my apps in!
As the interview process begins, we'll get a feel for where everyone has apps pending.
As an aside, I heard that Nebraska is interviewing on 9/14/07, although they have not offered interviews at this time.
Holy Cow!http://www.adea.org/EPS/SearchDetailResults.asp?ProgNum=ENDO15
PASS deadline for Nebraska is 8/20/07, Program deadline is September 1st. Good luck.
May I ask how you unearthed this information?
Holy Cow!
I must have gotten the wrong deadlines from the Postdoctoral guides or somewhere...
Thanks for the heads up dlux.
I'm applying straight out of school, but I'm only cautiously optimistic and planning on applying again next year if I don't get in. I volunteered for a committee and have done some mentoring within the endo department as well as various volunteer/community dentistry type things, but mostly I've just gotten to know the endo faculty and done as many canals as I could as a D-3 (45 canals and 2 apicoectomies). I was involved in some research, but no publications. I also did an externship at San Antonio's program this last spring. As far as general grades, I have a 3.8, 3/83 rank and pretty good Part I boards, but nothing outstanding. We'll see what happens.
I looked on san antonio's endo web page and couldn't find any info on the externship. Could you let me know where I could get some info on that? thanks
Anybody applying out west?