I wouldn't classify it as hate. Annoyed, unable to understand why they are the way they are, but hate is strong word. I very much like when we are consulted and our opinion is valued.
Doesn't stop them from hating dermatology.
I don't think surgeons hate OB-Gyn. They don't consider them to be "real surgeons" (which they're not). Urology is a surgical subspecialty.
Bc we're all different specialties. Our environment and mores are different. I don't know what you classify as "getting along".
Which is weird, bc I haven't really noticed OB-Gyn or General Surgery interact in the hospital as far as between those 2 specialties. I don't know what OB-Gyn would consult General Surgery for or vice versa. I guess the title of the thread doesn't really match the OP. General Surgeons saying that OB-Gyns aren't really surgeons, isn't really hate. It's more a comment on the extent of their surgical training experience - which isn't extensive like in General Surgery. There's a reason they do Gyn Onc fellowships.
So in other words, pretty much only when they **** up. Your examples support the point that OB-Gyns, aren't real surgeons. lol.
Why did other specialties start breaking off?
No, I understand. In the world of Internal Medicine, the more "valued" specialties in terms of valuing their opinion will naturally be GI, Cards, Heme/Onc, Pulm/Critical Care, maybe Nephro (as that can be quite complicated) as those are direct fellowships out of IM. With Derm, I believe it's more depending on the case - i.e. a very severe skin reaction (usually due to a certain drug, but not always) that no one can figure out which drug is doing it.Yea but that never happens... at least the part about the opinion being valued
I kid, I kid. The different services should fight... in much the same way that siblings or branches of the armed forces fight with each other. In a good-natured way, but cognizant that sometimes we need each other.
It's Wash U - all specialists are valued.Yea but that never happens... at least the part about the opinion being valued
Yes. It's quite funny. I wonder if it has something to do with gender where males on Surgery get an automatic pass, while females on OB-Gyn don't. Mainly bc females, in general, are expected to be kinder, nicer, even tempered, etc.
Yeah, I definitely understand that. I didn't make an attempt - I just read their faces and kept quiet. But we were all thinking it lol
I think they were referring to urologists who specialize in female urinary problems, not the gender of the urologist.
It has nothing to do with competitive people. Specialties are different, the culture of that specialty is different. We are respectful when we're in front of each other, it's when we're walking back to our respective places/departments in the hospital, which is when we talk and mainly it's to each other w/in our specialty. People consult or admit for stupid ****. That's just the nature of the beast.
I don't think @southernIM is referring to prestige or honor. OB-Gyns are not surgeons, period. Their surgical training hours are very small in comparison to everything else.
Not trying to be snarky, just curious. Do you consider Ophthalmologists surgeons?
I always thought a surgery was a place, aka the OR.
No, that's the theatre.
No, that's the theatre.
