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I enjoy watching Dr. 90210. It's one of those shows that is so cheesy and superficial/materialistic that it is entertaining to watch. However, I simply cannot believe there are actually plastic surgeons out there like one of the docs portrayed on the show.

This guy prances around in shiny, polyester-like suits with pastel shirts, and loud neck ties that would make any pimp proud. He's got blond highlights in his hair. He also wears sleeveless scrub tops that looks like a tank top. While he is prepping for surgery you can often find himself practicing karate or in the corner pumping some iron. Is this guy for real? :laugh: 😱
 
Unfortunately, yes. Does wonders for the field of surgery. Thank God I'm an anesthesiologist! :laugh:
 
The_Sensei said:
Unfortunately, yes. Does wonders for the field of surgery. Thank God I'm an anesthesiologist! :laugh:
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I enjoyed the episode from last night...the guy was in the PACU in the corner doing 1 arm concentration curls..while his patient recovering from a breast augmentation was being visitted by her porn star friends...now that's CLASSY 👍 :laugh:
 
GMO2003 said:
I enjoyed the episode from last night...the guy was in the PACU in the corner doing 1 arm concentration curls..while his patient recovering from a breast augmentation was being visitted by her porn star friends...now that's CLASSY 👍 :laugh:
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Thats awesome....Every single male should have pornstar friends...
 
Entertaining yes...but he's considered a bit of a joke in the Plastic Surgery field.

As for the highlights, they were his wife's idea. Frankly, I'm rather suprised he didn't get them earlier as vain as he appears to be.
 
I truly admire those plastic surgeons who do true plastic and reconstructive surgery, craniofacial deformities, birth defects, and burn victims...I'm not going to criticize a plastic surgeon for doing solely cosmetic work...but then again, you have to question somebody's true motive for becoming a plastic surgeon if all they are after is making alot of money
 
GMO2003 said:
I truly admire those plastic surgeons who do true plastic and reconstructive surgery, craniofacial deformities, birth defects, and burn victims...I'm not going to criticize a plastic surgeon for doing solely cosmetic work...but then again, you have to question somebody's true motive for becoming a plastic surgeon if all they are after is making alot of money
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i like him! i don't see why people have a problem with him... he is really nice to his patients and he does some cases pro bono too. although he seems flamboyant it isn't as if its rude to his patients... he just seems like a character and a fun one at that! so many ppl in medicine are boring... here is a guy that does what he loves and has fun too! his wife is freaking gorgeous too...
 
plasticbuddy said:
i don't see why people have a problem with him...
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Professional jealousy occurs in many careers--medicine being no exception given the personality types in it.
 
GMO2003 said:
This guy prances around in shiny, polyester-like suits with pastel shirts, and loud neck ties that would make any pimp proud. He's got blond highlights in his hair. He also wears sleeveless scrub tops that looks like a tank top. While he is prepping for surgery you can often find himself practicing karate or in the corner pumping some iron. Is this guy for real? :laugh: 😱
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According to the attendings at my institution, where Rey spent several years in General Surgery training, he's every bit as ridiculous in real life as he is on television.

He's a real life "The Tod," from the show "Scrubs."
 
I know the dude (dr. Rey) seems like a total tool BUT he seems like a genuine tool. He's himself and honestly it seems like he can really relate to his patients (even if that is because they are all amazingly shallow). I would personally rather spend time hanging around that guy than a lot of the fake personalities I run into every day.
 
dynx said:
I know the dude (dr. Rey) seems like a total tool BUT he seems like a genuine tool. He's himself and honestly it seems like he can really relate to his patients (even if that is because they are all amazingly shallow). I would personally rather spend time hanging around that guy than a lot of the fake personalities I run into every day.
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ok aside from the many flaws thar are DR Rey, he is kind of a poser. You hear him say... when I left Harvard Medical School....blah blah blah... check out his resume.... the dude did a breast fellowship there... 1 yr maybe. Now he is claiming ivy league through and through. Harvard is all over his website and he talks about it so much on his show, but he spent very little time there. lame if you ask me
 
Dr. Rey's educational pedigree, according to the American Medical Association (and various other sources) is:

Undergrad:
Arizona State Univ.

Medical School:
Tufts Univ. School of Medicine

General Surgery Residency:
Mayo
LAC/Harbor/UCLA Medical Center

Plastics:
Univ. of Tenn.

Breast Fellowship:
Beth Israel-Deaconess/HMS
 
ludakris said:
ok aside from the many flaws thar are DR Rey, he is kind of a poser. You hear him say... when I left Harvard Medical School....blah blah blah... check out his resume.... the dude did a breast fellowship there... 1 yr maybe. Now he is claiming ivy league through and through. Harvard is all over his website and he talks about it so much on his show, but he spent very little time there. lame if you ask me
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Technically speaking he is Harvard trained.

If you look in the phone book of any major city you'll see a lot of doctors claiming they were trained at elite medical centers. I remember before thinking "wow so many doctors did med school/residency at top notch hospitals". Then I realized most of them either did a mini-fellowship or even spent just a few days/weeks learning a procedure at one of these top hospitals and then claimed they were "trained" there! The unknowing public doesn't know any better.
 
****** said:
Dr. Rey's educational pedigree, according to the American Medical Association (and various other sources) is:

Undergrad:
Arizona State Univ.

Medical School:
Tufts Univ. School of Medicine

General Surgery Residency:
Mayo
Staten Island Univ. Hospital
LAC/Harbor/UCLA Medical Center

Plastics:
Univ. of Tenn.

Breast Fellowship:
Beth Israel-Deaconess/HMS
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The turtle (an MEM old-timer as well) speaks once again. How 'bout them Zags?
 
****** said:
He's a real life "The Tod," from the show "Scrubs."
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I must say, as a plastics applicant, the thought of Dr. 90210 brings up all kinds of bile and evil humours from my belly. However, the analogy to "The Todd" makes me rethink things. I haven't seen Dr. 90210 before, but if he's anything like The Todd, I gotta say maybe I could like the guy in some ways after all. The Todd is so ridiculous, yet so unfake in some weirdly endearing way.

While I personally still think doctors should provide some value in terms of medical necessity, I am somewhat ambivalent about whether you can blame someone for wanting to only do cosmetics. How different is that from say, a model, or a photographer, or an artist even? Or a fashion designer?

The more obvious moral issue I think are the plastic surgeons who perform obviously unethical procedures. Of course, the definition of obviously unethical isn't black and white either.
 
I thought the last episode of Dr 90210 was interesting...
Dr. Rey goes to Mexico to do some pro bono work. The guy running the clinic there is skeptical and judgemental. But Rey comes across as a genuinely nice guy and patients see that and they love him. Contrast this with Dr. Matlock (ob/gyn doing cosmetic surg?!) and you'll really start to GAG! (It Matlock for real?!)
 
blu said:
...I am somewhat ambivalent about whether you can blame someone for wanting to only do cosmetics. How different is that from say, a model, or a photographer, or an artist even? Or a fashion designer?
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The issue(s) with Dr. Rey are not that he specializes in aesthetic surgery but his interactions with his patients and friends.

I, as a physician, surgeon, female and patient, find it pretty creepy when he tells his patients they look "hot", "so sexy". etc. While this is perhaps what his patients want and or need to hear, it seems much more appropriate to me to talk about the appearance of the scar, symmetry, etc rather than how sexy a patient looks.

Many also focus on the way he treats his wife and family; he appears to prefer to spend more time on his martial arts than he does with them. Of course, the "miracle" of tv editing can makes things appear as they really aren't.

And of course, the supposed arrogance of his oh-so-frequent mention of Harvard and his training there. Even if he did his whole residency there (and its not like Harvard is touted as one of the better PRS programs), its still irritating to name drop as he does.
 
Hey, Rey's a showman. When the camera's on he performs... He didn't seem so creepy in Mexico with the kids and their families. It would be interesting to see Rey interact with male clients... I like that he doesn't take himself too seriously... the martial arts? all surgeons like to show off to some degree... I'm sure off camera he's a lot different... creepy is the women in shows like "the swan" in their 'after' poses in front of the mirror!!!
 
Kimberli Cox said:
The issue(s) with Dr. Rey are not that he specializes in aesthetic surgery but his interactions with his patients and friends.

I, as a physician, surgeon, female and patient, find it pretty creepy when he tells his patients they look "hot", "so sexy". etc. While this is perhaps what his patients want and or need to hear, it seems much more appropriate to me to talk about the appearance of the scar, symmetry, etc rather than how sexy a patient looks.
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I also saw him hug a patient when she had her shirt off, that was odd too.

I was really impressed by the episode when he went to Mexico though, it seemed like it really touched him.
 
Kimberli Cox said:
I, as a physician, surgeon, female and patient, find it pretty creepy when he tells his patients they look "hot", "so sexy". etc. While this is perhaps what his patients want and or need to hear, it seems much more appropriate to me to talk about the appearance of the scar, symmetry, etc rather than how sexy a patient looks.
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You mean it's bad when I tell a patient "damn babe, I wouldn't kick you out of bed for eating crackers" or "man I would hit that and knock the back out of it!"
 
dynx said:
I know the dude (dr. Rey) seems like a total tool BUT he seems like a genuine tool. He's himself and honestly it seems like he can really relate to his patients (even if that is because they are all amazingly shallow). I would personally rather spend time hanging around that guy than a lot of the fake personalities I run into every day.
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I'd rather run into a brick wall than spend five minutes listening to that jack a$$ toot his own horn. In fact, I'd like to get him in the octagon for a couple rounds. We'll see how much tai kwon do he knows.
 
blotto geltaco said:
The turtle (an MEM old-timer as well) speaks once again. How 'bout them Zags?
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Dr. Rey saying he trained at HMS is like George W saying he served during Vietnam.
 
blu said:
IWhile I personally still think doctors should provide some value in terms of medical necessity, I am somewhat ambivalent about whether you can blame someone for wanting to only do cosmetics. How different is that from say, a model, or a photographer, or an artist even? Or a fashion designer?
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To each his own.

I certainly can't blame physicians or surgeons from going into practices that are, for all intents and purposes, NOT of medical necessity. After all the practice of medicine and surgery has eroded over the last 40 years or so into a "business."

My personal feeling is that physicians and surgeons who parade around as Dr. Rey does on his television show cast a long shadow on a profession that has recently become the object of media scorn. The news organizations and talk shows can't wait to run stories on "botched operations" or on "medical malpractice" or on "criminal physicians." And because of this demonization of physicians and surgeons, every lay person in the world suspects his doctor MUST have done something WRONG when a poor outcome or a complication is realized.

I apologize if this makes me sound as if I'm riding some high-horse and I think of myself a better physician and surgeon than the rest of the lot, because that's not my intetion. I just think physicians and surgeons should carry themselves a certain way in accordance with the incredibly important role we play in our communities. Again when doctors are portrayed on television shows as wheelin' and dealin' slick-haired guys who drive Porsches and refer to their patients as being "hot" or "so sexy," it detracts from our profession as a whole.
 
****** said:
Again when doctors are portrayed on television shows as wheelin' and dealin' slick-haired guys who drive Porsches and refer to their patients as being "hot" or "so sexy," it detracts from our profession as a whole.
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Agreed, the media loves stories that portray doctors like used car salesmen, which is EXACTLY what Dr. Rey is.

The way to deal with this is to elimintae residency training for cosmetics. Have reconstructive plastics programs for burn/trauma victims, but eliminate any and all training that is for cosmetics
 
I think that most people can differentiate a cosmetic surgeon on television from their own physicians. Consequently I don't harbor any fears about Dr. Rey sullying the image of surgeons.

On the other hand, television shows are edited extensively. For every minute of screen time, there are hours and hours of tape lying on the digital cutting room floor. I'd wager that if the most altruistic surgeon had a tv show, he/she could be made to look as shallow/ridiculous at the editors wanted.

The show is pure entertainment aimed at getting people to notice and watch. Clearly people are watching and discussing the show...

As for making moral judgements on other people... get over it. So he does facelifts and breast augmentations. If his patients are happy, he does a good job, and he does his work safeley, then why should it matter that the surgery is done on porn stars, or strippers, etc...? If you think that your perirectal abscess drainage has more value than his blepharoplasty then that's your right. But remember that he is serving his patients to the best of his ability, just as you no doubt are. If he wants to do yoga, or lift weights in between cases instead of drink coffee (like I do) so be it.
 
Celiac Plexus said:
If you think that your perirectal abscess drainage has more value than his blepharoplasty then that's your right.
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yeah guys. his boob job is equivalent to your hemicolectomy for colon cancer. :laugh:
 
mmmmdonuts said:
yeah guys. his boob job is equivalent to your hemicolectomy for colon cancer. :laugh:
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It may very well be. I'm sure there are good reasons for a lot of cosmetic and aesthetic surgery, and not all of it is done for the sole reason of making a buck or helping make a stripper's career. And I can't say that the satisfaction I get out of General Surgery necessarily surmounts that of a PRS guy doing a breast or a cleft palate either, so I'll leave them to their area of expertise and I'll slave away for the next 2.5 years wacking out colons for cancer (though I ultimately will be going into Vascular Surgery).
 
Some of those high and mighty/"altruistic" attitudes are the same things that are used against doctors to make them feel guilty about making any money, having time off, or enjoying life outside the hospital, and forcing us into our current position. We are mostly employees of "the man" now, nothing you do is really out of altruistic feeling according to the CEO of the hospital. There arent many jobs out there where people worry about if theyre making too much money and what constitutes "necessity" or who deserves to get what.
While i think Dr. Rey is a complete jackass, what does that have to do with plastics/aesthetic surgery? There are procedures done in every field that arent medically necessary, its just the popular thing to abhor cosmetic surgeons, and i used to do that also. But its their life and practice, if its not for you dont do it, and certainly dont be a hater. To most people those views come off as jealous and envious in some way, no matter how you slice it.
 
****** said:
I'm sure there are good reasons for a lot of cosmetic and aesthetic surgery
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there are, which is why everyone in plastics says that they intend to do burn or reconstruction before they immediately run for cosmetics. if you want to think your bypass revascularization is the same worth as their implant work thats up to you i suppose.
 
Kimberli Cox said:
Ok...while I haven't changed my attitude totally about Dr. Rey I must admit, I too, was touched during the international relief episode. His tears and sentiments appeared real.
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I also thought it looked genuine, but he strikes me as a person who will forget that experience as soon as he steps back into Beverly Hills.

By the way, did anyone see the episode where he wanted to get a big huge german shepard, because a big scary dog like that is a "surgeon's dog" :laugh: :laugh:
 
That episode softened my dislike for Dr. Rey as well. I thought he seemed really sincere. However, I've not seen Dr. 90210 in a long time . . . where the hell did this Dr. Matlock come from. He is 100x more of a douchebag than Rey.
 
toxic-megacolon said:
I also thought it looked genuine, but he strikes me as a person who will forget that experience as soon as he steps back into Beverly Hills.
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Doesn't matter if he will 'forget' the experience, he still did it and helped people that needed it. Which after all is more than we can say for most surgeons who never undertake such humanitarian missions.

This thread is a good example of how so many people in medicine, and especially in surgery, are quick to pass negative judgement on doctors with personalities that are not status quo (read: predictable, boring), even if the doctor is competent and liked by his/her patients.
 
Misterioso said:
This thread is a good example of how so many people in medicine, and especially in surgery, are quick to pass negative judgement on doctors with personalities that are not status quo (read: predictable, boring), even if the doctor is competent and liked by his/her patients.
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Have you WATCHED the show? This thread is about how Dr. Rey is a douche-bag, not whether he's an okay guy. (I suppose, in theory, one could be both).
 
toxic-megacolon said:
I also thought it looked genuine, but he strikes me as a person who will forget that experience as soon as he steps back into Beverly Hills.

By the way, did anyone see the episode where he wanted to get a big huge german shepard, because a big scary dog like that is a "surgeon's dog" :laugh: :laugh:
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Really? Any other breeds "surgeon dogs"? I like Rottweilers - would that be ok? :laugh:
 
Misterioso said:
Doesn't matter if he will 'forget' the experience, he still did it and helped people that needed it. Which after all is more than we can say for most surgeons who never undertake such humanitarian missions.

This thread is a good example of how so many people in medicine, and especially in surgery, are quick to pass negative judgement on doctors with personalities that are not status quo (read: predictable, boring), even if the doctor is competent and liked by his/her patients.
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We can spend hours discussing the fact that most people don't engage in enough altruistic work - regardless of field. You will get no argument from me there and I think its wonderful that Dr. Rey did it.

However, this has nothing to do with people thinking Dr. Rey should be more predictable and staid but rather that his behavior with patients is seen by most of us as INAPPROPRIATE and that while it doesn't affect his ability to be a good surgeon with patients who like him, his posing, muscle scrubs, treatment of his wife, etc. are evidence of what a tool this guy is. I will however defer to those who have worked with him and met him...people who agree, the guy is a tool. A
 
Dr. Rey is the biggest mentally unstable pansy in the world.

i saw his last episode of fixing some girls hand where he started crying. Then they flip over to his wife who says, "i am now 88 pounds." then they flip over to him again and he is getting ready for a surgery and then back to his wife, "i am now 85 pounds." then back to some ob-gyn cosmetic surgeon touching himself and his armani suit and then back to Dr. Rey who is now crying because he has never seen disparity since he was at Harvard and then back to his wife...."i am now 80 lbs and a strong breeze could carry me away."

hahahahaha...this show is sooo ******ed.

i am guessing plastics is a lot more than this show...lots of burn victims and things...i hope.
 
My medical school is the same institution where Dr. Rey did his plastics fellowship (no, I don't go to Harvard!).... the plastics guys here STILL talk about what a tool this guy is!!! Apparently, he regularly wore his scrubs with OR cap to Target......
 
marcus_aurelius said:
Dr. Rey is the biggest mentally unstable pansy in the world.

i saw his last episode of fixing some girls hand where he started crying. Then they flip over to his wife who says, "i am now 88 pounds." then they flip over to him again and he is getting ready for a surgery and then back to his wife, "i am now 85 pounds." then back to some ob-gyn cosmetic surgeon touching himself and his armani suit and then back to Dr. Rey who is now crying because he has never seen disparity since he was at Harvard and then back to his wife...."i am now 80 lbs and a strong breeze could carry me away."

hahahahaha...this show is sooo ******ed.

i am guessing plastics is a lot more than this show...lots of burn victims and things...i hope.
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I have no doubt this guy is even more of a tool in real life than on camera, ive never seen the show but what i hear about is appalling.
On the subject of Plastic Surgery it is an immense field that includes burns, peds/craniofacial, hand, post onc recon, trauma recon, micro, aesthetics, wound care, etc..
In working with plastics people i have learned just how much altruistic stuff they do, Operation Smile, etc...and thats not just guys like Rey trying to make themselves look/feel better b/c of a heavy cosmetics practice.
Further, if done correctly there is nothing wrong with doing a primarily aesthetic practice.
 
Plastikos said:
I have no doubt this guy is even more of a tool in real life than on camera, ive never seen the show but what i hear about is appalling.
On the subject of Plastic Surgery it is an immense field that includes burns, peds/craniofacial, hand, post onc recon, trauma recon, micro, aesthetics, wound care, etc..
In working with plastics people i have learned just how much altruistic stuff they do, Operation Smile, etc...and thats not just guys like Rey trying to make themselves look/feel better b/c of a heavy cosmetics practice.
Further, if done correctly there is nothing wrong with doing a primarily aesthetic practice.
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my docs husband used to do cleft lip surgeries for operation smile....its an amazing thing....i'd love to do those surgeries over and over again....is there a peds subspeciality of plastics? its sad that this guy makes the general public think a certain way about plastics when it is so much more. at least nip/tuck has some good sex scenes in it.....but then again, who wants to see dr. rey in action :laugh: :laugh: he might start crying again :laugh:
 
marcus_aurelius said:
my docs husband used to do cleft lip surgeries for operation smile....its an amazing thing....i'd love to do those surgeries over and over again....is there a peds subspeciality of plastics?
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Craniofacial.
 
Kimberli Cox said:
Ok...while I haven't changed my attitude totally about Dr. Rey I must admit, I too, was touched during the international relief episode. His tears and sentiments appeared real.
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Think he's crying over his 88lb wife? Or he's still annoyed she won't pop out a 3rd kid (since he spends so much time with them anyway).

That said....I TiVo Dr. 90210 and have seen all the episodes..... 🙂 Do I have any excuse that I got hooked on it 2 years ago while I was doing away rotations and living away from my husband? (There were LOTS of reruns on over the summer.)

I think most of the surgeons are rediculous, but I like the laugh. I also like Dr. Li, especially the fact that despite the fact that she was a size 2 pre-pregnancy she gained weight like a "real person".
 
Vincristine said:
Think he's crying over his 88lb wife?
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Hardly - I don't think he's even noticed the change in her; he probably thinks she looks good.

The show is growing on me - I used to find it irritating as I do most reality shows, but now I'm finding humor amongst the occasionally interesting surgeries.
 
did you guys watch the last episode...the GU/plastic surgery guy putting in breast implants in a male to female transexual...it also focused on Dr. Nassif and his famous wife from the Maloof family...that guy's house is like a friggin' castle...if Dr. Rey is such a huge success in his practice...why does he live in such a modest home...it's the ONLY thing understated about this guy...it's a rather humble abode...is real estate in California really that out of control that a "big shot" plastic surgeon can't afford a mansion on PCH?
 
GMO2003 said:
did you guys watch the last episode...the GU/plastic surgery guy putting in breast implants in a male to female transexual...it also focused on Dr. Nassif and his famous wife from the Maloof family...that guy's house is like a friggin' castle...if Dr. Rey is such a huge success in his practice...why does he live in such a modest home...it's the ONLY thing understated about this guy...it's a rather humble abode...is real estate in California really that out of control that a "big shot" plastic surgeon can't afford a mansion on PCH?
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Thats affirmative. A run of the mill 3br house in a no name neighborhood/city without a yard or amenities will run you around $700,000. It is ridiculous unless you purchased before the boom.
 
GMO2003 said:
did you guys watch the last episode...the GU/plastic surgery guy putting in breast implants in a male to female transexual...it also focused on Dr. Nassif and his famous wife from the Maloof family...that guy's house is like a friggin' castle...if Dr. Rey is such a huge success in his practice...why does he live in such a modest home...it's the ONLY thing understated about this guy...it's a rather humble abode...is real estate in California really that out of control that a "big shot" plastic surgeon can't afford a mansion on PCH?
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He just put a down payment on a 5 million dollar home.
 
CTSballer11 said:
He just put a down payment on a 5 million dollar home.
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yeah..I saw that episode...he's always saying he is working himself into the ground and now he's saying he'll have to work twice as hard to be able to afford his mortgage payment...something is gonna have to give eventually :laugh:
 
speaking of ob/gyns...can they do liposuction...is lipo one of those cosmetic procedures that anybody with a medical license perform?? I know that with a medical license you can technically do neurosurgery..but still...I thought lipo was something that only plastic surgeons did
 
" I know that with a medical license you can technically do neurosurgery..but still...I thought lipo was something that only plastic surgeons did"

The problem with being an OBGyn who does Lipo, is that when the patient dies of a DVT (like happens occasionally) the lawyers will eat your lunch because its way outside of your training.
 
Celiac Plexus said:
Craniofacial.
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There is also Pediatric Plastic Surgery, which encompasses both Craniofacial and all other pediatric plastics procedures (congenital hand, birth marks, head moulding, burns.)
 
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