top 200 drugs

Violet786 · Jul 23, 2007

I will be starting pharmacy school in the fall (P1). I have started to compile a list of the top 200 drugs on excel and I am typing in each drug's info (which I found on micromedex) such as generic name, dosage, indications and adverse effects. This is what we are supposed to know for P1.

By the way, what is the difference between available dosage forms and strengths?

So, is this method a good way to study/memorize the drugs? Is there a better one that some one can suggest please? Thank you so much!
Also sometimes there is a longgg list of possible adverse effects- how do we know which ones we are supposed to know?? Thanks!

PharmDstudent · Jul 23, 2007

Dosage form is how the drug is given. For example, protonix is available in a tablet and IV. Strength is how much drug is given. For instance, tylenol comes in 500mg and 650mg. The extra strength tylenol is 500mg and the tylenol arthritis is 650mg.
Hope this helps!

Oh and I don't know what you should learn about adverse reactions. We didn't touch on them my P1 year.

ZpackSux · Jul 23, 2007

Here is a list of top drugs I'm working with

Avastin
Aranesp
Neulasta
Rituxan
Remicade

$$$$$$$$

PharmDstudent · Jul 23, 2007

I know about Neulasta. That stuff's expensive. Like $5000 per injection. Yikes!

ZpackSux · Jul 23, 2007

PharmDstudent said:
I know about Neulasta. That stuff's expensive. Like $5000 per injection. Yikes!

When patent expiration looms, attach a PEG molecule!

PharmDstudent · Jul 23, 2007

ZpackSux said:
When patent expiration looms, attach a PEG molecule!

Sorry... I don't get it 🙁 I know what PEG is, but how would that help in theory?

ZpackSux · Jul 23, 2007

PharmDstudent said:
Sorry... I don't get it 🙁 I know what PEG is, but how would that help in theory?

What's the difference between Neulasta and Neupogen?

PharmDstudent · Jul 23, 2007

ZpackSux said:
What's the difference between Neulasta and Neupogen?

Now I'm doing research... this is ruining the cheesecake my friends made me 😛- which is really tasty considering that I've switched over to a "vegan" diet. I don't buy dairy myself, but you can't refuse a gift!!!
Back to researching the difference between neupogen and neulasta.

ZpackSux · Jul 23, 2007

PharmDstudent said:
Now I'm doing research... this is ruining the cheesecake my friends made me 😛- which is really tasty considering that I've switched over to a "vegan" diet. I don't buy dairy myself, but you can't refuse a gift!!!
Back to researching the difference between neupogen and neulasta.

When you figure it out...let us know... you may be the winner of this week's Zpack's "Hmmm..let's think about it."

PharmDstudent · Jul 23, 2007

"The "peg" in pegfilgrastim refers to a polyethylene glycol, "PEG," unit that is added to enlarge the Filgrastim protein. This enlargement prolongs the length of time it stays in the body, and this allows for administration in a single dose per chemotherapy cycle."http://www.neulasta.com/professional/about_neulasta/fact_sheet.jsp

Sooo... just add some more PEG so it will last longer 😀 Right??

ZpackSux · Jul 23, 2007

PharmDstudent said:
"The "peg" in pegfilgrastim refers to a polyethylene glycol, "PEG," unit that is added to enlarge the Filgrastim protein. This enlargement prolongs the length of time it stays in the body, and this allows for administration in a single dose per chemotherapy cycle."http://www.neulasta.com/professional/about_neulasta/fact_sheet.jsp

Sooo... just add some more PEG and it will last longer 😀 Right??

Ding Ding Ding.... but you left out the pharmacoeconomics..

so if Neupogen goes generic.. which I don't know when that will be.. what happens to the profit margin without something else in the pipeline?

PharmDstudent · Jul 23, 2007

ZpackSux said:
Ding Ding Ding.... but you left out the pharmacoeconomics..

so if Neupogen goes generic.. which I don't know when that will be.. what happens to the profit margin without something else in the pipeline?

Neupogen ER?? aka more PEG than Neulasta. Why not ER? I mean Ambien got away with it. Now everyone likes Ambien CR so much that they wouldn't think about switching back to the regular which now has a generic. Those drug companies are sneaky!

Just to note, my last post made me a "Senior Member" :hardy:

ZpackSux · Jul 23, 2007

PharmDstudent said:
Neupogen ER?? aka more PEG than Neulasta. Why not ER? I mean Ambien got away with it. Now everyone likes Ambien CR so much that they wouldn't think about switching back to the regular which now has a generic. Those drug companies are sneaky!

Just to note, my last post made me a "Senior Member"

Very good...so now you get it.

Neupogen - Neulasta = Ambien - Ambien CR

ZpackSux · Jul 23, 2007

PharmDstudent said:
Neupogen ER?? aka more PEG than Neulasta. Why not ER? I mean Ambien got away with it. Now everyone likes Ambien CR so much that they wouldn't think about switching back to the regular which now has a generic. Those drug companies are sneaky!

Just to note, my last post made me a "Senior Member"

well..not quite.

Neulasta doesn't need more peg... it's a pegylated neupogen

PharmDstudent · Jul 23, 2007

ZpackSux said:
well..not quite.

Neulasta doesn't need more peg... it's a pegylated neupogen

I guess the drug company who makes Neupogen is just SOL.

PharmDstudent · Jul 23, 2007

ZZZZ, it was nice talking to you about those drugs. I'm going to head out. I'm thinking about going to this cafe in the French Quarter. I visited this weekend with some friends and it was really nice. Or maybe I'll just go to Bourbon St and get hammered? Probably not, but I could 😀. Oh yeah, I'm taking the street car, because I'm just a block off Canal St. Doesn't it sound fun??

ZpackSux · Jul 23, 2007

PharmDstudent said:
I guess the drug company who makes Neupogen is just SOL.

Amgen has both neulasta and neupogen

ZpackSux · Jul 23, 2007

PharmDstudent said:
ZZZZ, it was nice talking to you about those drugs. I'm going to head out. I'm thinking about going to this cafe in the French Quarter. I visited this weekend with some friends and it was really nice. Or maybe I'll just go to Bourbon St and get hammered? Probably not, but I could 😀. Oh yeah, I'm taking the street car, because I'm just a block off Canal St. Doesn't it sound fun??

Cafe Du Monde?

Heh...I'm from New Orleans....grew up there. Graduated from HS in Metairie.

So..been there done that!

PharmDstudent · Jul 23, 2007

ZpackSux said:
Amgen has both neulasta and neupogen

One-half the PEG? That's just weird. Those companies try anything to get a patent. Seriously, I don't think there should be a patent difference between prescription drugs with or without OTC drugs. Example being Allegra-D. That s*** still is under patent, and people are always p***ed every time they get an expensive co-pay. Another example, DURAMAX. That drug is total crap. All three of its ingredients are OTC 😱

PharmDstudent · Jul 23, 2007

ZpackSux said:
Cafe Du Monde?

Heh...I'm from New Orleans....grew up there. Graduated from HS in Metairie.

So..been there done that!

No, it's a cafe that just opened. On Chartres near the Pharmacy Museum.

CaliCPhT · Jul 23, 2007

CR = CONTUNUED REVENUE!!! :laugh:

PharmDstudent · Jul 23, 2007

CaliCPhT said:
CR = CONTUNUED REVENUE!!!

Since I agree with that, I guess ER=extended revenue.

DrugDealer · Jul 23, 2007

PharmDstudent said:
One-half the PEG? That's just weird. Those companies try anything to get a patent.

No, Amgen is not a 50/50 mix of these 2. Amgen is the company that makes both of them. They used to only make Neupogen, but then when the patent expiration date approached, they freaked out and had to concoct a way to make more money and not lose their market share. So they decided to dress up their Neupogen in some PEG and call it Neulasta. Longer half-life, less frequent dosing, etc., all the things we already talked about.

PharmDstudent · Jul 23, 2007

DrugDealer said:
No, Amgen is not a 50/50 mix of these 2. Amgen is the company that makes both of them. They used to only make Neupogen

Thanks for clearing that up!

groot · Aug 10, 2007

PharmDstudent said:
Thanks for clearing that up!

Hi,

I'm a cancer patient and I've taken both neulasta and neupogen.

My Hospital billed neulasta at $6645.00 a shot. I had two of them but had to switch because it caused too much bone pain and I don't tolerate pain killers well. The neupogen was billed at $213.00 per shot. And I had one a day for four days. It was just as effective in keeping my counts up, but with much less pain and a much smaller cost. It's too bad that the system is set up so that compensation is a consideration when deciding on a course of treatment. The hospital makes a hell of a lot more money prescribing the new drug than the old, even though the old is just as effective and a lot cheaper.

All4MyDaughter · Aug 11, 2007

Violet786 said:
I will be starting pharmacy school in the fall (P1). I have started to compile a list of the top 200 drugs on excel and I am typing in each drug's info (which I found on micromedex) such as generic name, dosage, indications and adverse effects. This is what we are supposed to know for P1.

By the way, what is the difference between available dosage forms and strengths?

So, is this method a good way to study/memorize the drugs? Is there a better one that some one can suggest please? Thank you so much!
Also sometimes there is a longgg list of possible adverse effects- how do we know which ones we are supposed to know?? Thanks!

Here's a very basic spreadsheet I made as part of my current rotation. It's for the techs in our pharmacy who are taking their certification class. It doesn't have everything you asked about but it's a place to start. Maybe others can benefit from it too.

pinkyrx · Aug 11, 2007

All4MyDaughter said:
Here's a very basic spreadsheet I made as part of my current rotation. It's for the techs in our pharmacy who are taking their certification class. It doesn't have everything you asked about but it's a place to start. Maybe others can benefit from it too.

That's a great spreadsheet! Thanks for sharing! 🙂

bva · Aug 11, 2007

All4MyDaughter said:
Here's a very basic spreadsheet I made as part of my current rotation. It's for the techs in our pharmacy who are taking their certification class. It doesn't have everything you asked about but it's a place to start. Maybe others can benefit from it too.

Thank you so much for sharing your spreadsheet, All4MyDaughter!!!
Thanks.

All4MyDaughter · Aug 11, 2007

pharmagirl said:
That's a great spreadsheet! Thanks for sharing! 🙂

bva said:
Thank you so much for sharing your spreadsheet, All4MyDaughter!!!
Thanks.

You guys are very welcome! Please post in here if you find anything major that needs to be corrected.

Should we start a "share your study guides" thread? I have quite a bit of stuff I'd be willing to post. It could be a sticky.

pinkyrx · Aug 11, 2007

All4MyDaughter said:
You guys are very welcome! Please post in here if you find anything major that needs to be corrected.

Should we start a "share your study guides" thread? I have quite a bit of stuff I'd be willing to post. It could be a sticky.

Sounds like a good idea. Btw, I love that your excel sheet already has tabs with the drugs separated by different catgories!

bva · Aug 11, 2007

All4MyDaughter said:
Should we start a "share your study guides" thread? I have quite a bit of stuff I'd be willing to post. It could be a sticky.

That's a great idea.
Your spreadsheet is great, very well organized. Thank you very much, again.

aidquestion · Aug 12, 2007

Is it remotely possible for you experienced pharmacists to make a recording of the pronouciation of the top prescription drug names (and other basic information) in mp3 or similar format? That way, we beginners can learn them while driving or hiking.

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