drugs to help with studying

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No, I don't study for long periods of time. My attention span for studying is about 15 minutes tops, but I will never use drugs to change that. I take a break, then go back to studying again.
 
My friend is taking red bull because it gives him wing! Ofcourse, he is destroying his body at the same time
 
Better be careful... you might not live up to your parent's expectations if you get into drugs to help you study.


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Drugs won't help you focus, they won't help you remember the stuff your trying to learn and they sure as hell won't make you feel good when they wear off.

Try some good ole one on one time with your favorite text book and a pretty highlighter. Just don't hold the highligher too close.
 
I don't know about using drugs prior to studying. But happy hour sure is a MWU favorite after test days. 😀
 
Coffee/caffeine is about as much as I ever chug down. Sadly I know some classmates that delve into illegal stuff to help keep them going. You have to really ask yourself if it takes that to get the job done, do you really need to be in the field? For me, med school has been very challenging but if it got to the point where it changed my entire life and made me someone completely different, I'd be thinking about something else.

Also, you really need to worry about addiction. It happens to healthcare workers at an alarming rate. The best way to get all your work done is to start very early and put in a very consistent effort everyday. Make sure to take plenty of time to relax and get some exercise too. But really steer clear of the uppers, it's a road that could only lead to bad stuff.

Sorry, off my soapbox now 😉
 
there was a rumor that some of my classmates were using adderall to study this year. Unsubstantiated, but I wouldn't be surprised
 
tweaker said:
anyone ever use drugs to help with studying for long periods of time? Like meth or Ritalin or anything like that.
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Better questions:
1) If someone was, would they be stupid enough to post it?
and
2) If someone was, are they responsible enough to be in pharmacy school?

I find the basic premise of this thread to be a bit jacked up. Anyone else?
 
I guess we should rectify our 'premises'. If he's asking what drugs should he take to get thru pharm school that'd be jacked up, but if he's asking about anecdotes of the topic of ppl using drugs to get thru school then that's a real topic as much as any other.
 
The true irony would, of course, be using drugs for the purpose of studying those same drugs for an exam. 😉
 
I've heard of using ephedrine to stay awake, and it's supposed to be good for short term memory, but I never would. I think the shaking and heart pounding during the exam would probably make you look like a cheater and that would suck more than anything.
 
I've found two over the counter products taken in mass quantities to be very effective: sunflower seeds and Mountain Dew. David and Sons are the most effective but if you have to get generic, it should still be effective. Wal-Mart has their own version of Mt. Dew; I think it's called Mountain Thunder - don't get it. It has an after-taste and there may be side-effects.
 
tweaker said:
anyone ever use drugs to help with studying for long periods of time? Like meth or Ritalin or anything like that.
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Jesus is my drug to get me through those rough study nights. 🙄
 
What ever happened to good old-fashioned cocaine? That's what got me through physics. 😎 I'm just kidding...no flaming
 
Roxicet said:
What ever happened to good old-fashioned cocaine? That's what got me through physics. 😎 I'm just kidding...no flaming
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Jeez Roxicet, cocaine is so 80s. These days it's all about crystal meth. Duh! :laugh:
 
Hey you know where the top 3 meth injection sites are nowadays, right?

#3 .....the back of the knee
#2 .....between the toes
#1 .....the head of the penis
(Note: ppl using the #1 most popular site are most likely to have a "study partner".)

BTW, that "C2" that Coca-Cola put out tastes like watered down coke without the Coke aftertaste. I find it much less addictive than a CII should be. I guess that is why it is OTC.
 
On a serious note, drug addiction is quite possible in pharmacy. Recent research points to the early part of a career as the most problematic in addiction issues. Some start even in school.

In the class above me, we had a student that was notorious for meth and steroid use prior to and after examinations. Myth goes that MWU's drug testing policy was designed trial and error on this student. As far as I know, this recent graduate STILL can't pass a drug test.

In the old days, if you were an addicted pharmacist, you were totally screwed if you went before the State Board. Nowadays, they recognize this behavior as In the class below me, we had a student steal Vicodin and Percocet at WAG. She got caught by a pharmacist and was immediately fired. Instead of expulsion, the school suspended her a year and will enter in the class of 07.

From firsthand experience, you'll definitely know sooner than later which one of your classmates is drug addict. It gets pretty hard to disguise the kind of behaviors that go with addiction, particularly around an audience.

Although I've unfortunately developed an opinion working with addicted pharmacists, once one then always one. I don't believe in second chances for impaired pharmacists working in positions of trust simply because the temptations and possibilities are too great. (I don't have proof for this and I don't know the repeat offenders rate for pharmacy).
 
the reason I ask is because I have had clinical depression for several years now and it has done a number on my study skills and attention span. Since one of the side effects of depression is not being able to focus on anything. I dropped out of a tech school a couple years ago because it got so bad.
 
I don't know about the whole taking drugs thing because anything that messes with your body i feel is not worth it watsoever. However, growing up in a traditional asian family I'm prone to drink teas and herbal remedies that my dad learned to put together from his father. I've heard that there are herbal teas that should help memorization skills and promote a relaxation, but then again who knows if they actually work... 😛 My dad just believes anything he says is right...

But seriously, I know clinical depression can be difficult because I've known someone with it but taking more drugs wouldn't be the answer instead he learned to slowly live his life one step at a time instead of drowning himself within drugs. The only drugs he took where ones for his depression prescribe by his physician, but never any to help him study. Wouldn't want anything bad to happen to anyone. 🙂
 
lord999 said:
On a serious note, drug addiction is quite possible in pharmacy. Recent research points to the early part of a career as the most problematic in addiction issues. Some start even in school.

In the class above me, we had a student that was notorious for meth and steroid use prior to and after examinations. Myth goes that MWU's drug testing policy was designed trial and error on this student. As far as I know, this recent graduate STILL can't pass a drug test.

In the old days, if you were an addicted pharmacist, you were totally screwed if you went before the State Board. Nowadays, they recognize this behavior as In the class below me, we had a student steal Vicodin and Percocet at WAG. She got caught by a pharmacist and was immediately fired. Instead of expulsion, the school suspended her a year and will enter in the class of 07.

From firsthand experience, you'll definitely know sooner than later which one of your classmates is drug addict. It gets pretty hard to disguise the kind of behaviors that go with addiction, particularly around an audience.

Although I've unfortunately developed an opinion working with addicted pharmacists, once one then always one. I don't believe in second chances for impaired pharmacists working in positions of trust simply because the temptations and possibilities are too great. (I don't have proof for this and I don't know the repeat offenders rate for pharmacy).
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We also had someone in our class (MWU 05) pop positive on a whiz quiz for an intern position last quarter. However, the powers that be did nothing.
 
I know that methamphetamines are rampant on the island of Hawaii. It is reported that at least 40% of the youth population(18-25) uses the drug. (don't quote me on this, but i read it somewhere.) It is also become a rampant problem in medical schools where the need to stay up and study long hours has turned students to this.

It is highly addictive and should not be attempted even once. It does ruin lives and futures.
 
spoons said:
My friend is taking red bull because it gives him wing! Ofcourse, he is destroying his body at the same time
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How is red bull bad for you? Too much sugar?
 
you know studies are showing that amphetamines don't do anything to help you retain info. also the more powerful a drug, the more it ****s you up. you wouldn't take a 100mg morphine to study or 6mg of xanax so why would anyone in thier right mind do meth. anyway some others had about the right point, stay off the drugs or find a new career path. think about it, would you want some high ass doctor messing up your medication, or the meds of your loved ones. think about the number of scrips one might fill out in a day. everyone of those people trust you to provide quality health care and everyone of them would have some very irate family members if you ended up hurting thier loved ones because you were after some kicks.
 
Hmm,
I dont know about any of that Hard ****, but ephedrine (aka Ma Huang) really makes me crank. Technicly its just a herb, but then everything comes from some natural sorce? I really loved that stuff and only used about 1/3 the recommended doses initially for weight loss. Honestly, Ive havent found an appetite suppresent to even come close to the stuff.
I still have a bunch of the crap, and take a 300mg dose (from metabolift ) when I need to stay awake, alert, and think clearly. Worked great for testing! When the stuff really got pushed on the market, they were recommending crazy amounts like 300to500 mgs, 4 times a day. Mix that with hypertension or any heart problem and your bound to overheat and shutdown the old ticker. No wonder it was banned. I think you can still find it online in Canada and other places.
Just my 2 bits. Moderation is key.
 
bananaface said:
Better questions:
1) If someone was, would they be stupid enough to post it?
and
2) If someone was, are they responsible enough to be in pharmacy school?

I find the basic premise of this thread to be a bit jacked up. Anyone else?
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So well said.....
 
tweaker said:
anyone ever use drugs to help with studying for long periods of time? Like meth or Ritalin or anything like that.
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No, I have to start studying first 😉

I recommend me 😉
 
Its interesting,

but the topic of addiction among pharmacists was brought up in law class recently. I essentially asked what it takes to lose your license, and basically as long as you seek treatment, there is a good chance that the board will not even suspend you. If it comes to the board's attention, you can be suspended and have to undergo mandatory treatment and following that there is a 10 year probation. If you are caught again there is a mandatory suspension and a possible loss of license, but if you become addicted again and volutarily seek treatment, they will likely only suspend you for a short time. I asked why exactly this was, and he said that some of the best pharmacists he knows were addicted at some point and after overcoming the addiction it actually helped them to become better pharmacists. I found that kind of odd, but since he is on the board I guess I will take him at his word.

As far as taking drugs to help with studying, I really don't see the point. Pharmacy school is not all that difficult, if you need drugs to study for a couple of hours here and there then you probably should not be in pharmacy school in the first place.
 
bjay27 said:
Hmm,
I dont know about any of that Hard ****, but ephedrine (aka Ma Huang) really makes me crank. Technicly its just a herb, but then everything comes from some natural sorce? I really loved that stuff and only used about 1/3 the recommended doses initially for weight loss. Honestly, Ive havent found an appetite suppresent to even come close to the stuff.
I still have a bunch of the crap, and take a 300mg dose (from metabolift ) when I need to stay awake, alert, and think clearly. Worked great for testing! When the stuff really got pushed on the market, they were recommending crazy amounts like 300to500 mgs, 4 times a day. Mix that with hypertension or any heart problem and your bound to overheat and shutdown the old ticker. No wonder it was banned. I think you can still find it online in Canada and other places.
Just my 2 bits. Moderation is key.
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I have to agree with you on that one. I've taken ephedrine for weight loss before, and I've never found a better OTC appetite suppresent... it wasn't just not being hungry, it was zero interest in food. I used to take Stacker 3s and a whole one would make me feel crazy. I became *overly* alert and nearly paranoid at the peak. I have a low heart rate and very low blood pressure, and I felt like my heart was going to jump out of my chest... I can't imagine someone with even normal blood pressure taking a whole one. Also, for some reason ephedrine puts me to sleep... I have to take a nap within an hour of taking some, even with a modified dose... but I wake up from the nap feeling very awake and refreshed. I settled on 1/3 of a capsule at once. If there was a way to regulate the dosing and maybe make it a behind-the-counter drug (where you'd have to talk to a pharmacist before purchasing, and maybe be a certain age), then I'd be all for making it legal for sale again... but the recommended doses were outrageous and very dangerous!
 
I know that ephedra is supposed to be off the market, but I've still seen Metabolife and other ephedra-containing weight loss supplements being sold in Walmart, CVS, ect. Is it supposed to be off the market now or is it in the process of being removed?
 
chloejane said:
I know that ephedra is supposed to be off the market, but I've still seen Metabolife and other ephedra-containing weight loss supplements being sold in Walmart, CVS, ect. Is it supposed to be off the market now or is it in the process of being removed?
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Don't quote me on it, but I believe the law was that no additional quantities are allowed to be purchased by retail stores; however, stock that was in before the ban took effect is allowed to be sold. Also, possession is still legal.

Are you certain that the supplements have ephedra? I kind of doubt that places like CVS and Walmart would still stock them... most of the places you'll find ephedra for sale will be gas stations (hah, or ebay), especially in less populated areas. Metabolife is no longer produced with ephedra... they still sell a product, but it's ephedra-free now. Same with Stacker, TrimSpa, etc. What you're seeing is probably the modified product, unless you actually checked the label and saw ephedra/ma huang.
 
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